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[Signals.Cpl]

I don't know where I should post this, but my question to people here is do you agree with the no zero policy not specifically for the school in question but the policy in general. I have received zero's when I didn't complete assignments or when I didn't show up for a test or an exam, and to me that prompted me to review my actions and improve. I don't see how we can expect anything from the future when kids are not held accountable for their actions, if you dsont complete an assignment you don't get the marks for said assignment just as when you don't do your work you don't get paid.

http://www.cbc.ca/ne...-no-appeal.html
http://www.cbc.ca/ne...s-sheppard.html

[punked]

No one agrees with a no zero policy. Why it happens is school boards put these things in place in hopes that no one finds our about them. Then graduation rates go up and the school board can use those stats to pretend like they are doing a good job. It is stupid and hurts our education system so that some elected members can look good if no one blows the lid on such dumb policies.

[Michael Hardner]

I agree with the idea of giving zeros, but I also am reluctant to designate myself as someone who has definitive authority over experts and specialists across the board. In our democracy, we elect people to solve problems, and to manage services. We should have feedback into those activities, but we shouldn't have unmitigated power to overrule how they're done.

[Signals.Cpl]

No one agrees with a no zero policy. Why it happens is school boards put these things in place in hopes that no one finds our about them. Then graduation rates go up and the school board can use those stats to pretend like they are doing a good job. It is stupid and hurts our education system so that some elected members can look good if no one blows the lid on such dumb policies.

Unfortunately I would have to disagree with you here, there are people who support this policy and believe its a positive change.

[Canuckistani]

Unfortunately I would have to disagree with you here, there are people who support this policy and believe its a positive change.

This teacher actually gave kids a chance to make up the assignment before giving the 0. I agree with his approach.

[cybercoma]

It depends on the circumstances.

If a student does not hand in an assignment or does not show up for an exam, then it should be zero.

If they attempt work on something, they should never be given a zero.

[cybercoma]

This teacher actually gave kids a chance to make up the assignment before giving the 0. I agree with his approach.

This is just it. If the kid was given a chance to make up the assignments and still didn't do them, then there's absolutely no reason the student should not have been given a zero.

[GostHacked]

I got a few 0% in school because of unfinished projects. I deserved those zeros. I stand by this teachers decision. These kids who get passed will only have bigger issues in university and college where they do in fact give you 0s, and there is no room for debate from the prof and the tuition comes out of your pocket.

[kolak]

I got a few 0% in school because of unfinished projects. I deserved those zeros. I stand by this teachers decision. These kids who get passed will only have bigger issues in university and college where they do in fact give you 0s, and there is no room for debate from the prof and the tuition comes out of your pocket.

Exactly, this "policy" does nothing but hurt students and in turn society en large. You can't just not finish assignments or not show up when in university or in the workforce.

Hopefully they stop this ASAP as I fear it might be a gateway to even lower education standards.

[cybercoma]

I got a few 0% in school because of unfinished projects. I deserved those zeros. I stand by this teachers decision. These kids who get passed will only have bigger issues in university and college where they do in fact give you 0s, and there is no room for debate from the prof and the tuition comes out of your pocket.

At the university that I went to, many of the departments in the faculty of arts would not give you zeroes on unfinished assignments. Instead, your mark for the entire class would be an INC, which converts to a zero a few weeks after the semester ends. You could hand in every single assignment and score A+ on all of them. If you miss one, you fail the course with an INC.

[cybercoma]

No one agrees with a no zero policy. Why it happens is school boards put these things in place in hopes that no one finds our about them. Then graduation rates go up and the school board can use those stats to pretend like they are doing a good job. It is stupid and hurts our education system so that some elected members can look good if no one blows the lid on such dumb policies.

Thanks for posting this. I couldn't understand why they were doing it, but this certainly makes sense now.

[punked]

Unfortunately I would have to disagree with you here, there are people who support this policy and believe its a positive change.

No one inside a classroom. Again the only people who agree with it are people at the board (or inside the education department) whose jobs and raises depend on being able to show and meet the numbers. It is a way to show results with out more money, more teachers, or more work.

Edited by punked, 09 June 2012 - 09:24 AM.

[punked]

I got a few 0% in school because of unfinished projects. I deserved those zeros. I stand by this teachers decision. These kids who get passed will only have bigger issues in university and college where they do in fact give you 0s, and there is no room for debate from the prof and the tuition comes out of your pocket.

You live an older world my friend. Universities are following through with these same policies because the more students means more money. So today it is much easier to buy a degree. Can you get As like this? No. But D is for degree. The dumbing down of education across the board hurts us all but it is happening in this country.

[madmax]

I don't know where I should post this, but my question to people here is do you agree with the no zero policy not specifically for the school in question but the policy in general. I have received zero's when I didn't complete assignments or when I didn't show up for a test or an exam, and to me that prompted me to review my actions and improve. I don't see how we can expect anything from the future when kids are not held accountable for their actions, if you dsont complete an assignment you don't get the marks for said assignment just as when you don't do your work you don't get paid.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/story/2012/06/08/edmonton-no-zero-teacher-dorval-no-appeal.html
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/story/2012/05/31/edmonton-teacher-zeros-sheppard.html

I believe this is a teacher speaking out and his association also agrees with him, but know they cannot win a appeal.

There are way to many restictions on teachers marking. I see Alberta is just as messed up.

Alot of this has to do with Provincial Funding Formulas and is also a problem in Provinces that have adopted American originated Standardized testing.

I got zeros when I was in school. The world did not come to an end.

[Topaz]

Ok, we are dealing with high school aged kids and that's a complication right there. There`s too many mental and emotional items happening to these people`s brains and part of it is not doing the work. Ok, so where is the parents, does the student have the support needed and high school time is were a person will either gets serious about their life or find out what happens when they drop out. What`s the age a person can dropout of high school in Alberta? Some kids don`t realize how important an education is and some kids need more help then others.