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[Peeves]

Given the most recent condemnation of Canada by (UN high commissioner for human rights, Navi Pillay), I think it's time to follow Conrad Black's suggestion re our leading a charge for reform.





http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/06/30/conrad-black-the-end-of-canadas-love-affair-with-the-un/



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the UN high commissioner for human rights, Navi Pillay (a Tamil South African from Durban and notorious anti-Western racist), still saw fit to criticize the absence of human rights in Quebec last week, lumping Canada in with Syria, Mali, Eritrea and North Korea. (The first three of those countries have been wracked by civil wars, replete with tortured political prisoners and executions; and the fourth is the most severe totalitarian state in the world.) Pillay was the chief author of the Durban declaration against racism in 2001, itself a militantly racist document, and she has disputed the legality of killing Osama bin Laden and ostentatiously supported Iran’s lunatic president Mahmoud Ahmedinejad. In her recent comments, she praised the Arab Charter on Human Rights, which makes all rights subject to the law of Shariah. She did not recognize that the Quebec law on the right to assemble and demonstrate has not led to general violence, is not violently imposed and is subject to review by an independent judiciary and to revocation of the government by voters in free elections.

So indeed! Why not NOW

Canada is well placed to organize the support for such measures by the countries that pay most of the UN’s bills. This would be a much more appropriate stance for Canada, now that it has been so unjustly pilloried by the anthill of bigotry of a Human Rights Council, than continued reverence for this citadel of hypocrisy. The United Nations is both a mad cow and a sacred cow; it is in desperate need of radical reform.

I plan on writing our P.M.

[Peeves]

I plan on writing our P.M.
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So I did.
E-mail: pm@pm.gc.ca



Given the most recent condemnation of Canada by (UN high commissioner for human rights, Navi Pillay), I think it's time to follow Conrad Black's suggestion,( Link provided) re our leading a charge for reform.

There is no better time than now. I also think our government would be considered to be doing the right thing not only by Canadians, but by many in the West. I certainly know first hand that Canadians would favorably respond to any action in this direction.



http://fullcomment.n...ir-with-the-un/



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the UN high commissioner for human rights, Navi Pillay (a Tamil South African from Durban and notorious anti-Western racist), still saw fit to criticize the absence of human rights in Quebec last week, lumping Canada in with Syria, Mali, Eritrea and North Korea. (The first three of those countries have been wracked by civil wars, replete with tortured political prisoners and executions; and the fourth is the most severe totalitarian state in the world.) Pillay was the chief author of the Durban declaration against racism in 2001, itself a militantly racist document, and she has disputed the legality of killing Osama bin Laden and ostentatiously supported Iran’s lunatic president Mahmoud Ahmedinejad. In her recent comments, she praised the Arab Charter on Human Rights, which makes all rights subject to the law of Shariah. She did not recognize that the Quebec law on the right to assemble and demonstrate has not led to general violence, is not violently imposed and is subject to review by an independent judiciary and to revocation of the government by voters in free elections.


So indeed! Why not NOW

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Canada is well placed to organize the support for such measures by the countries that pay most of the UN’s bills. This would be a much more appropriate stance for Canada, now that it has been so unjustly pilloried by the anthill of bigotry of a Human Rights Council, than continued reverence for this citadel of hypocrisy. The United Nations is both a mad cow and a sacred cow; it is in desperate need of radical reform.

[Signals.Cpl]

My question is how far would you want to go with this, just on this issue or a general reform of the UN in order to make it relevant? What is the depth of the reform?

Edited by Signals.Cpl, 30 June 2012 - 01:14 PM.

[Peeves]

My question is how far would you want to go with this, just on this issue or a general reform of the UN in order to make it relevant? What is the depth of the reform?

That is certainly a broad question. I might refer you to the article by C.Black for some insight as to what and how. Personally I would defer to the learned mavin's on the subject and simply ask where should we be paying to have the inmates run the madhouse besides in 'Wonderland'?

Surely those countries that fund the UN should not be accepting of the UN as it is and has been for a generation. Even the most befuddled of us can see the demise of reality.

Read Black and get back to me perhaps. http://fullcomment.n...ir-with-the-un/

Edited by Peeves, 30 June 2012 - 04:11 PM.

[socialist]

I would like to see Canada under total UN control. the UN promotes equality for all. that is what we need in canada.

[Signals.Cpl]

I would like to see Canada under total UN control. the UN promotes equality for all. that is what we need in canada.

Yeah, the UN sure promotes equality for all, just ask Syria.

[Shady]

I would like to see Canada under total UN control. the UN promotes equality for all. that is what we need in canada.

You have to try harder if you're going to make your trolling sound more believable. You're getting lazy.

[Army Guy]

how do you make something relevent that very few nations pay attention to in the first place

[Army Guy]

I would like to see Canada under total UN control. the UN promotes equality for all. that is what we need in canada.

Maybe you should get a passport and start traveling around the globe, before whining about Canada's equality problems...can't afford the traveling join the Army they'll send you first class, to all the worlds sweat spots free of charge.....maybe you'll see equality up close and personal....

[Signals.Cpl]

how do you make something relevent that very few nations pay attention to in the first place

For starters you remove the Veto power from permanent members, then expand the Security Council to reflect the current economic/military powers and expand the permanent members of the UNSC. Scrap every UN department and start rebuilding from the ground up making sure that different departments have improved lines of communication in order to solve problems and use resources in the most efficient way possible.


Unfortunately this will not happen as most nations are interested in a weak and useless UN that they can point to and blame for not acting.

[Peeves]

For starters you remove the Veto power from permanent members, then expand the Security Council to reflect the current economic/military powers and expand the permanent members of the UNSC. Scrap every UN department and start rebuilding from the ground up making sure that different departments have improved lines of communication in order to solve problems and use resources in the most efficient way possible.


Unfortunately this will not happen as most nations are interested in a weak and useless UN that they can point to and blame for not acting.

Good points.
Yeh, Canada did more than China or France. Why the &^*&% were they permanent members?

[Peeves]

I would like to see Canada under total UN control. the UN promotes equality for all. that is what we need in canada.

I thought communists started that doctrine? Didn't work. But then, neither does the UN.

[Derek L]

Good points.
Yeh, Canada did more than China or France. Why the &^*&% were they permanent members?

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[wyly]

Given the most recent condemnation of Canada by (UN high commissioner for human rights, Navi Pillay), I think it's time to follow Conrad Black's suggestion re our leading a charge for reform.





http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/06/30/conrad-black-the-end-of-canadas-love-affair-with-the-un/



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So indeed! Why not NOW


I plan on writing our P.M.

conrad black?...since when did foreign criminals become a moral guiding light for canadians....

[Shady]

since when did foreign criminals become a moral guiding light for canadians....

Omar Khadr, with a few Canadians.