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[Canuckistani]

I think it's coming. The movement to ban it seems to be getting stronger every day.

[bush_cheney2004]

Good luck with that.....Germany also tried to "ban" Jews.

[Canuckistani]

Good luck with that.....Germany also tried to "ban" Jews.

There we go. It's not really about medical reasons at all, is it. Should be allow parents to brand their children if their particular religion demands it. What about all the facial and body scarring that some tribes in Africa engage in.

This is a barbaric practice that has passed its time

[bush_cheney2004]

There we go. It's not really about medical reasons at all, is it. Should be allow parents to brand their children if their particular religion demands it. What about all the facial and body scarring that some tribes in Africa engage in.

What about it? What ever happened to "multiculturalism"? I'll bet that Trudeau was circumcised.

This is a barbaric practice that has passed its time

Most common surgical procedure around the world.

[Shady]

I'd rather be circumcised as an infant, not remembering anything about it, than go through it at 18. Ouch!

[Moonlight Graham]

Anybody under 18 is an infant?

The poster you quoted said child, not infant. According to the UN Convention of the Rights of the Child (Article 1), a child is defined as "every human being below the age of eighteen years unless under the law applicable to the child, majority is attained earlier". The UNCRC has been signed by Canada.

I'm on the fence on this issue. It is a violation of the child's right not to have body parts sliced off without consent, but maybe parents should have a right to lop off the foreskin for medical reasons (screw religious reasons). Maybe a compromise would be to ban male circumcision for those under 18, unless medical problems arise (kinda like removing tonsils). Then at 18 the adult male can choose.

[Moonlight Graham]

I'd rather be circumcised as an infant, not remembering anything about it, than go through it at 18. Ouch!

Amen! However, children do remember things as infants, their brain learns and takes in sensory info like any human. Having the tip of your pee-pee lopped off as an infant, especially without anesthesia (!!!), would be a trauma for a child I would think. Babies do remember, just like babies would are sexually abused remember and live with it, and other things like infant psychological attachment injuries, for the rest of their lives even though as adults they may not remember it.

Edited by Moonlight Graham, 04 July 2012 - 02:05 PM.

[bush_cheney2004]

Amen! However, children do remember things as infants, their brain learns and takes in sensory info like any human. Having the tip of your pee-pee lopped off as an infant, especially without anesthesia (!!!), would be a trauma for a child I would think.

To each his own...I liked it!

[waldo]

The “Bris Ban”: German Court Calls Circumcision a “Criminal Act”

'no biggee, slow news day', hey? A lower (regional state) district court ruling... one non-binding on the other 15 German states.

[Bonam]

Amen! However, children do remember things as infants, their brain learns and takes in sensory info like any human. Having the tip of your pee-pee lopped off as an infant, especially without anesthesia (!!!), would be a trauma for a child I would think. Babies do remember, just like babies would are sexually abused remember and live with it, and other things like infant psychological attachment injuries, for the rest of their lives even though as adults they may not remember it.

You overestimate how much people remember. Most people, by the time they are adults, don't remember anything from before they were about 2-4.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childhood_amnesia

Edited by Bonam, 04 July 2012 - 04:12 PM.

[Moonlight Graham]

You overestimate how much people remember. Most people, by the time they are adults, don't remember anything from before they were about 2-4.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childhood_amnesia

That's conscious memory, of course we don't remember when we were a year old.

But our experiences as infants do profoundly shape our entire lives. Example: http://www.helpguide...chment_bond.htm

Edited by Moonlight Graham, 04 July 2012 - 09:56 PM.

[Bonam]

That's conscious memory, of course we don't remember when we were a year old.

But our experiences as infants do profoundly shape our entire lives. Example: http://www.helpguide...chment_bond.htm

The "attachment bond" with the primary caregiver described in the article is a relationship that exists between the child and another individual on a daily basis for years. It is something that shapes the very formation of your brain structure. Of course that relationship and its effects on you are essentially hardwired into you.

In contrast, a single sensation of physical pain lasting for a short duration would not have the same effect, and would quickly be forgotten.

[Mr.Canada]

Generally Jews and Protestants get cut and Catholics do not for the men. If they try to ban it then it will go underground where potential for infection goes up. Is that what we want?

Female circumcision is a barbaric practice.

[Shakeyhands]

Generally Jews and Protestants get cut and Catholics do not for the men. If they try to ban it then it will go underground where potential for infection goes up. Is that what we want?

Female circumcision is a barbaric practice.

Interesting comments.

Funny, the same things can be said for abortion....

[Peeves]

The "attachment bond" with the primary caregiver described in the article is a relationship that exists between the child and another individual on a daily basis for years. It is something that shapes the very formation of your brain structure. Of course that relationship and its effects on you are essentially hardwired into you.

In contrast, a single sensation of physical pain lasting for a short duration would not have the same effect, and would quickly be forgotten.

I agree other wise every bump would contribute to life's experience and I don't believe such could be the case anymore than that every disappointment as a child has an impact. Severe trauma might, but not a minor event, and like it or not I doubt a circumcision is memorable unless done with pinking shears. That would be a frilly dilly brit btw.