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Posted 10 July 2012 - 06:16 PM

You can't make this stuff up. Yet again, Canada's procurement of rotary winged aircraft is going to crash and burn in grand style:



"This is an example of how procurement can go badly wrong. This is the worst procurement in the history of Canada, including the $500-million cancellation costs that are attached to the Maritime helicopter program and then the costs of further maintenance to fly 50-year-old helicopters. They're going to go right out of aviation service and into the museum in Ottawa. And that's not a joke."




http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2012/07/10/ns-helicopter-deal-mackay.html


What is it about helicopters that vexes Canada so? Seriously....
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 06:49 PM

lol...you have to love the comment section. The worst deal EVER was the F-35...wahhhhhhhhhhh!!! Plus, the occasional sane post about how the money hasn't been spent yet. But, yes....Canada seems to hate the helicopter. Goodness knows they're almost useless devices kept in the air by witchcraft. Plus, in a land as vast as Canada, who needs vertical flight ability when a dog sled will do?

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 06:58 PM

Coming soon! All RCAF pilots will now be properly outfitted. :lol:

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:02 PM


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Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:07 PM

lol...you have to love the comment section. The worst deal EVER was the F-35...wahhhhhhhhhhh!!! Plus, the occasional sane post about how the money hasn't been spent yet. But, yes....Canada seems to hate the helicopter. Goodness knows they're almost useless devices kept in the air by witchcraft. Plus, in a land as vast as Canada, who needs vertical flight ability when a dog sled will do?



Witchcraft indeed. Even though I never went into helicopters, it was my favourite subject when I took aircraft maintenance at BCIT. I was in awe of the genius who figured out how to make a gyroscope fly. Our instructor used to say, helicopter maintenance consists of putting them back together faster than they shake themselves to pieces. Any guesses on how many times those Sea Kings have been put back together?
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:10 PM

Our instructor used to say, helicopter maintenance consists of putting them back together faster than they shake themselves to pieces.



I flew one as a student at Pensacola. The instructor said a helicopter is really just 10,000 parts vibrating in formation.
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:21 PM

You can't make this stuff up. Yet again, Canada's procurement of rotary winged aircraft is going to crash and burn in grand style:



"This is an example of how procurement can go badly wrong. This is the worst procurement in the history of Canada, including the $500-million cancellation costs that are attached to the Maritime helicopter program and then the costs of further maintenance to fly 50-year-old helicopters. They're going to go right out of aviation service and into the museum in Ottawa. And that's not a joke."




http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2012/07/10/ns-helicopter-deal-mackay.html


What is it about helicopters that vexes Canada so? Seriously....



I wouldn’t say we did it again, we never solved the issue in the first place…………..Again, the dangers of politicians being politicians, deciding to become the sole launch customer for the Cyclone, to spite the EH101/AW101 being the “winner” the second time for political optical effect, well it having a proven combat record in the Gulf with the Royal Navy & Royal Air Force prior to the selection……….In reality, we should be discussing the Petrel’s upcoming mid-life upgrade………Such is life.
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:23 PM

Witchcraft indeed. Even though I never went into helicopters, it was my favourite subject when I took aircraft maintenance at BCIT. I was in awe of the genius who figured out how to make a gyroscope fly. Our instructor used to say, helicopter maintenance consists of putting them back together faster than they shake themselves to pieces. Any guesses on how many times those Sea Kings have been put back together?


I'll bet there's a little bit of every Sea King in every other Sea King.
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Here's a similar old Army grunt: the Choctaw...perhaps in Canada's future??? Yuck, yuck, yuck...



Or perhaps those cool Hind conversions from Red Dawn......

Edited by DogOnPorch, 10 July 2012 - 07:24 PM.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:26 PM

Here's a similar old Army grunt: the Choctaw...perhaps in Canada's future??? Yuck, yuck, yuck...




Wow.....sounds like a Harley panhead.
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:26 PM




Hmmm tail gearbox or maybe the aft propulsion shaft………The initial hard bump might have knocked something loose……..
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:28 PM

Witchcraft indeed. Even though I never went into helicopters, it was my favourite subject when I took aircraft maintenance at BCIT. I was in awe of the genius who figured out how to make a gyroscope fly. Our instructor used to say, helicopter maintenance consists of putting them back together faster than they shake themselves to pieces. Any guesses on how many times those Sea Kings have been put back together?



Each one remaining, down to the airframe numerous times………..You know the story of Grand-pa’s axe? ;)
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:29 PM

Wow.....sounds like a Harley panhead.


No turbos there...just pistons. Auto-rotated like an Olympic high diver.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:30 PM

I wouldn’t say we did it again, we never solved the issue in the first place…………..




OK...but seriously....helicopters are really really really useful and not nearly as complicated or as expensive as F-35 strike fighters. If the LAPD can buy them to chase perps, or park boards can buy them to spray for skeeters, what's the problem?
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Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:32 PM

OK...but seriously....helicopters are really really really useful and not nearly as complicated or as expensive as F-35 strike fighters. If the LAPD can buy them to chase perps, or park boards can buy them to spray for skeeters, what's the problem?


Most MPs call them things 'Whurly Tops' and again, believe in witchcraft.

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Posted 10 July 2012 - 07:38 PM

OK...but seriously....helicopters are really really really useful and not nearly as complicated or as expensive as F-35 strike fighters. If the LAPD can buy them to chase perps, or park boards can buy them to spray for skeeters, what's the problem?


It comes down to what you put in them and how much regional offsets they obtain……………The PC Tories were just as bad……..Kiowa’s, Chinooks and Twins replaced with 412s made in Quebec. :rolleyes:

We can even f**k-up trucks & jeeps……Takes a special talent ;)
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