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#1 scribblet

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 02:58 PM

This is funny, naturally the Liberal winner doesn't want another election 'cos of course he won. No doubt had the conservative won it would be a whole different matter. :lol: :lol:

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/07/14/guelph-robocalls_n_1673523.html?1342296593

Liberal MP Frank Valeriote is fighting efforts by another local candidate to overturn the results of the last federal election in his riding of Guelph.

Marijuana Party candidate Brother Kornelis Klevering, a missionary of the Church of the Universe, recently asked the Federal Court to annul the results of the May 2, 2011, Guelph vote citing irregularities, fraud, or corrupt or illegal practices -- specifically, the 6,700 illegal robocalls currently under investigation.

Klevering told The Huffington Post Canada he returned May 28 from a remote island in southern Thailand where he spent the winter, and was shocked to discover the extent of the fraudulent calls. He believes the election process in Guelph was “neither free nor fair” and that thousands of robocalls misdirecting voters to non-extent polls dissuaded many from casting their ballots.

The man who won the race, Valeriote, however, says a new byelection is completely unnecessary.

“Notwithstanding the efforts to suppress, the voters have already spoken,” Valeriote told HuffPost Canada Saturday, the day after his lawyer informed Klevering they would be fighting his application.


Edited by scribblet, 14 July 2012 - 02:58 PM.

I’m beginning to believe “Harper derangement syndrome” is more than just a catchy phrase.  Those poor ‘progressives’ have snapped due to the undue strain of having to live under a Tory gov’t. and Stephen Harper.


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Posted 14 July 2012 - 03:09 PM

This is funny, naturally the Liberal winner doesn't want another election 'cos of course he won. No doubt had the conservative won it would be a whole different matter. :lol: :lol:

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/07/14/guelph-robocalls_n_1673523.html?1342296593


Of course. Who can blame him, he won despite the best efforts of the CPC to subvert the process. But I'm sure he's pretty calm about possibly having to fight another election, he'd win by a landslide.

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 03:21 PM

This is funny, naturally the Liberal winner doesn't want another election 'cos of course he won. No doubt had the conservative won it would be a whole different matter. :lol: :lol:

oh the irony upon irony pointed directly at you, MLW member, 'scribblet'. Any mileage you presume over this has you... finally... acknowledging the significance of robocalling, at large/in general. In terms of the specifics within Guelph, the evidence to-date shows an overwhelming imbalance favouring a preponderance of robocalling by Harper Conservative supporters targeted towards the voter interference/suppression of non-Conservative voters... a preponderance as compared to the issue specific (abortion) robocalling by the Liberal candidate's campaign.

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 03:40 PM

In terms of the specifics within Guelph, the evidence to-date shows an overwhelming imbalance favouring a preponderance of robocalling by Harper Conservative supporters targeted towards the voter interference/suppression of non-Conservative voters... a preponderance as compared to the issue specific (abortion) robocalling by the Liberal candidate's campaign.


I'm sure you meant "operatives" and not "supporters". In any case, now that a Conservative-friendly Commissioner of elections has been appointed he'll poo-poo all this talk about robocalls misdirecting voters. :P
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Posted 14 July 2012 - 03:48 PM

I'm sure you meant "operatives" and not "supporters". In any case, now that a Conservative-friendly Commissioner of elections has been appointed he'll poo-poo all this talk about robocalls misdirecting voters. :P

Sure he will... :rolleyes: but of course, the Liberals don't want a by election because it's possible they could lose... :P

I’m beginning to believe “Harper derangement syndrome” is more than just a catchy phrase.  Those poor ‘progressives’ have snapped due to the undue strain of having to live under a Tory gov’t. and Stephen Harper.


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Posted 14 July 2012 - 04:00 PM

Sure he will... :rolleyes:

Don't misunderstand scribblet, just having a little fun with waldo cause I know he/she can take a joke. ;)
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Posted 14 July 2012 - 04:10 PM

In terms of the specifics within Guelph, the evidence to-date shows an overwhelming imbalance favouring a preponderance of robocalling by Harper Conservative supporters targeted towards the voter interference/suppression of non-Conservative voters... a preponderance as compared to the issue specific (abortion) robocalling by the Liberal candidate's campaign.

I'm sure you meant "operatives" and not "supporters". In any case, now that a Conservative-friendly Commissioner of elections has been appointed he'll poo-poo all this talk about robocalls misdirecting voters. :P

'supporters'... however and for whoever they may have been operating! Ya, it's quite revealing/telling to read that a former Harper Justice Minister (associate deputy) appointee, Yves Cote, has just been appointed the new Commissioner of Canada Elections, overseeing the robocalls investigation. Your humour is dark, very dark!

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 04:12 PM

Sure he will... :rolleyes: but of course, the Liberals don't want a by election because it's possible they could lose... :P

what would be the supporting rationale for a new election in Quelph?

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 04:44 PM

what would be the supporting rationale for a new election in Quelph?

to smoke another one. :)
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Posted 14 July 2012 - 06:48 PM

Hey, why don't we have another election to see if Canadians would want another election Oct.9th 2012? It would be a fore runner to see how smoothly EC can run an election. No campaigning needed, just vote.

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 06:56 PM

Hey, why don't we have another election to see if Canadians would want another election Oct.9th 2012? It would be a fore runner to see how smoothly EC can run an election. No campaigning needed, just vote.


Personally, I think elections should be held weekly along with a dose of castor oil. Makes for a better constitution.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 06:59 AM

Don't misunderstand scribblet, just having a little fun with waldo cause I know he/she can take a joke. ;)

I know.. Waldo who ? :lol:

Actually, the Liberal might not win, with the NDP gaining ground it's possible they could win, or split the vote enough to let the conservative win. :D :D

I don't imagine the pothead candidate would have enough money to launch his own legal action, or maybe Elections Canada will finally let us know.

I’m beginning to believe “Harper derangement syndrome” is more than just a catchy phrase.  Those poor ‘progressives’ have snapped due to the undue strain of having to live under a Tory gov’t. and Stephen Harper.


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Posted 15 July 2012 - 07:16 AM

I don't imagine the pothead candidate would have enough money to launch his own legal action, or maybe Elections Canada will finally let us know.

I know lawyers that smoke pot. Your stereotype is stupid.

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 07:57 AM

I know lawyers that smoke pot. Your stereotype is stupid.

Whatever makes you happy, I aim to please. :lol:

I’m beginning to believe “Harper derangement syndrome” is more than just a catchy phrase.  Those poor ‘progressives’ have snapped due to the undue strain of having to live under a Tory gov’t. and Stephen Harper.


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Posted 16 July 2012 - 06:49 PM

Whatever makes you happy, I aim to please. :lol:


Where the heck is "Canuckistan" anyway? On some stupid American TV show?



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