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#1 Argus

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 09:11 AM

So now we learn the reason that big truck purchase bid was cancelled at the very last minute. DND had, since it got permission to buy the trucks, added on so many bells and whistles it had almost doubled the price. They were going to let out bids on a $770 million contract when they had only gotten permission to spend $400.

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It's been obvious for some time that McKay is not the man to run DND. Whether he's an idiot or an absentee or just totally in the pockets of the generals and bureaucrats he seems largely oblivious to what's going on and incapable of reigning in his people.

An appropriate change would seem to be to have him and John Baird switch jobs. McKay seems tailor made for the wine and cheese party set, and the bureaucrats at DND really deserve John Baird. He's also been Harper's hatchet man for troublesome jobs since day one of this government, and getting control of these people (and firing lots of them) would seem to be something well within his capabilities.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 09:33 AM

So now we learn the reason that big truck purchase bid was cancelled at the very last minute. DND had, since it got permission to buy the trucks, added on so many bells and whistles it had almost doubled the price. They were going to let out bids on a $770 million contract when they had only gotten permission to spend $400.

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It's been obvious for some time that McKay is not the man to run DND. Whether he's an idiot or an absentee or just totally in the pockets of the generals and bureaucrats he seems largely oblivious to what's going on and incapable of reigning in his people.

An appropriate change would seem to be to have him and John Baird switch jobs. McKay seems tailor made for the wine and cheese party set, and the bureaucrats at DND really deserve John Baird. He's also been Harper's hatchet man for troublesome jobs since day one of this government, and getting control of these people (and firing lots of them) would seem to be something well within his capabilities.


I remember when there were people defending this truck purchasee a few years back. Which ironically shows how slow the process is.

I I believe Army Guy pointed this out, I would love to dig up that old thread but it was one of those Thread drifts regarding Afghanistan.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 09:40 AM

I want McKay gone from cabinet. Period.

But I can't see The Boss switching those 2. It would essentially be a demotion for Baird and despite my dislike of this government's foreign policy I think Baird is decent at FAIT

And McKay moving there would be a promotion. And be a sign of weakness from The Boss. Possibly.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:07 AM

I want McKay gone from cabinet. Period.

But I can't see The Boss switching those 2. It would essentially be a demotion for Baird and despite my dislike of this government's foreign policy I think Baird is decent at FAIT

And McKay moving there would be a promotion. And be a sign of weakness from The Boss. Possibly.

McKay has something on Harper so he wont be going anywhere. Seriously there is only reason to keep him around after the whole private flight from his fishing trip by DND. He has something and is willing to bring the government down with him.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:31 AM

If that Is the case why would McKay accept the previous demotions?

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:42 AM

Not a good year for the DND. MacKay and Toews need to go, PLEASE. At least shuffle them.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:44 AM

Not a good year for the DND. MacKay and Toews need to go, PLEASE. At least shuffle them.



I guess not. Trucks? Seriously? Trucks?
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:57 AM

I guess not. Trucks? Seriously? Trucks?


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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:58 AM

If that Is the case why would McKay accept the previous demotions?

I think going from FA to Defense at the hight of the War was a step up or at least a side step.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 10:59 AM

Yeah...ours were seen on the hit TV show 'The Waltons' driving John-Boy into Charlottesville. Pretty olde.



Well hell, no wunder 'dem dare new fangled F-35 fiters are a 'causin such a ruckus! ;)
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:00 AM

Well hell, no wunder 'dem dare new fangled F-35 fiters are a 'causin such a ruckus! ;)


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Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:15 AM

I think going from FA to Defense at the hight of the War was a step up or at least a side step.


That could be argued but you could also say it was a demotion. And to me, Fantino being named associate minister was undercutting McKay.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:17 AM

That could be argued but you could also say it was a demotion. And to me, Fantino being named associate minister was undercutting McKay.

I would agree but he didn't remove him. The question is why, you can say a lot of Steven J Harper but I have never thought him to be one to cover up other peoples mistakes unless it could be tied back to him. Why hasn't he done with MacKay yet? The only thing I think of is MacKay knows something.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:18 AM

I want McKay gone from cabinet. Period.


I doubt Harper will turf McKay. McKay's wife is a well regarded Iranian born human rights activist. To dump McKay would be to open a floodgate of racism accusations against the Conservatives.
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:20 AM

Frankly, most of these bozos couldn't sell a used car let alone choose a proper piece of equipment. MacKay is a lawyer...not sure how that relates to aviation or trucking other than liability. In both senses of that...

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