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[msj]

Not sure where to put this thread but had a few questions for our American residents:

What type of gun regulations does Colorado have?

I mean, why did this guy manage to injure 71 people in all, with 12 fatalities?

Would not someone else have had a gun to take him down?

Or is real life a little too much like this video: I hate Glocks?

I'm not being cheeky here - I am actually curious as to why creeps like this seem to manage to be at the right place at the right time (from the creep's POV).

Edited by msj, 20 July 2012 - 12:56 PM.

[GostHacked]

Expect calls for more gun control, VIPR and TSA are coming to the movies !!

[gunrutz]

I believe you are allowed to carry there unless the establishment asks you not to, but despite what you hear most people don't carry a gun even when they can, and even if someone had it's no guarantee of a better outcome. Personally i would prefer to have the choice.

[blueblood]

Not sure where to put this thread but had a few questions for our American residents:

What type of gun regulations does Colorado have?

I mean, why did this guy manage to shoot 71 people in all, with 12 fatalities?

Would not someone else have had a gun to take him down?

Or is real life a little too much like this video: I hate Glocks?

I'm not being cheeky here - I am actually curious as to why creeps like this seem to manage to be at the right place at the right time (from the creep's POV).

Not much differences from the same nut bar who went off at eatons centre in T.O. You can't defend against nut bars. If they want to kill someone bad enough, they'll do it.

Civilized people don't pack heat in public who'd have thunk it.

Edited by blueblood, 20 July 2012 - 01:17 PM.

[waldo]

thread alert/request: take it easy on the delicate flowers

[GostHacked]

Not much differences from the same nut bar who went off at eatons centre in T.O. You can't defend against nut bars. If they want to kill someone bad enough, they'll do it.

Civilized people don't pack heat in public who'd have thunk it.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/surveillance-vid-shows-71-year-old-concealed-carry-holder-opening-fire-on-would-be-robbers/

Civilized people DO carry concealed. And this is part of the reason why.

Samuel Williams could soon become a poster child for concealed carry. Or rather a poster senior citizen.

Williams is being hailed as a hero this week after he sprung into action on Friday to thwart an armed robbery at an internet cafe. Williams was present when two masked thugs walked into the Palms Internet Cafe in Marion County, Florida. One of the men was brandishing a gun while the other had a bat. They started ordering patrons around and one smashes a computer screen. That’s when Williams took action.

[American Woman]

Not much differences from the same nut bar who went off at eatons centre in T.O.

That pretty much sums it up.

[bush_cheney2004]

I never liked Batman movies anyway.

[WWWTT]

I'm waiting to hear what Bush_Cheney has to say about this.Or Derek L

WWWTT

[WWWTT]

I never liked Batman movies anyway.

Ahhhr you beat me to it!!!

WWWTT

[Topaz]

I'm sure they will be looking into were he bought the guns. Where does one buy armour though, same place? Some politicians are calling for a debate for banning guns in the US,good luck with that one and the politicians that suggested that better get more security around them, after all this is America. Another point, why would this guy booby-trap his apartment, then tell the police he did before they went in?

[American Woman]

...why would this guy booby-trap his apartment, then tell the police he did before they went in?

He wasn't playing with a full deck. He thought he was the Joker. Perhaps he enjoyed the thrill of seeing whether or not they could un-booby-trap his apartment.

Edited by American Woman, 20 July 2012 - 03:04 PM.

[Michael Hardner]

He wasn't playing with a full deck. He thought he was the Joker.

A full deck doesn't need to contain jokers.

[Wild Bill]

Not much differences from the same nut bar who went off at eatons centre in T.O. You can't defend against nut bars. If they want to kill someone bad enough, they'll do it.

Civilized people don't pack heat in public who'd have thunk it.

Actually, you are only partially right. It's true you can't defend against a nutbar opening fire. However, if people around are carrying weapons of their own they have a good chance of limiting the number of people hit and/or killed. Someone there might shoot the nutbar and stop the carnage. The alternative (the Canadian way?) is to allow him to fire away at will until the police are notified and have time to respond.

Obviously, that extra time can mean a lot more people dead or wounded.

Realistically, there is no other way to describe such situations. One can argue about whether or not you prefer to ban citizens from carrying their own protection but you can't possibly make the claim that the police would be better able to limit the carnage! Some argue that allowing citizens to carry guns for protection would result in indiscriminate shootings all day long at every street corner where someone might panic for no good reason. This is essentially saying that the majority of citizens are idiots. Actually, I could easily be persuaded that such a thing is true!

[Argus]

Not sure where to put this thread but had a few questions for our American residents:

What type of gun regulations does Colorado have?

I mean, why did this guy manage to injure 71 people in all, with 12 fatalities?

Would not someone else have had a gun to take him down?

What are you, the NRA?
Yeah, if everyone carried guns there'd be damned few incidents like this. Instead there'd be a whole pile of incidents where some fat boy drops his gun and shoots a little girl walking by, or some nitwit in a heated argument over a fender bender, or an overdone hamburger or a girl shoots the other. You'd wind up with several times more deaths.

It isn't the presence of guns anyway. Guns have always been present. It's a strange sort of reality where people don't even see other people as humans. They see them as targets as in video games. It's a divorce from reality type of thing which didn't used to happen before the last fifty years or so.