Here we go again,another mass shooting in the US.
This time at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin.
Now I am starting this thread early into the investigation and there are still more details coming to light.
Already there are conflicting reports of multiple gunmen like the Batman shooting.The FBI are now calling this domestic terrorism.
Personally I believe there is too much hate and guns in the US!
Any thoughts?
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Wisconsin Shikh temple shooting
Started by WWWTT, Aug 05 2012 05:17 PM
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 05:33 PM
Here we go again,another mass shooting in the US.
This time at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin.
Now I am starting this thread early into the investigation and there are still more details coming to light.
Already there are conflicting reports of multiple gunmen like the Batman shooting.The FBI are now calling this domestic terrorism.
Personally I believe there is too much hate and guns in the US!
Any thoughts?
WWWTT
I move we ban hate and violence…….Especially hateful violence.
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Some people regard private enterprise as a predatory tiger to be shot. Others look on it as a cow they can milk. Not enough people see it as a healthy horse, pulling a sturdy wagon.
-Winston Churchill-
Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
-Ronald Reagan-
-Barry Goldwater-
Some people regard private enterprise as a predatory tiger to be shot. Others look on it as a cow they can milk. Not enough people see it as a healthy horse, pulling a sturdy wagon.
-Winston Churchill-
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 05:43 PM
There just isn't enough political will to control guns or make them safer is all. It's not that complicated.
Why not control hate and violence?
The income tax created more criminals than any other single act of government.
-Barry Goldwater-
Some people regard private enterprise as a predatory tiger to be shot. Others look on it as a cow they can milk. Not enough people see it as a healthy horse, pulling a sturdy wagon.
-Winston Churchill-
Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
-Ronald Reagan-
-Barry Goldwater-
Some people regard private enterprise as a predatory tiger to be shot. Others look on it as a cow they can milk. Not enough people see it as a healthy horse, pulling a sturdy wagon.
-Winston Churchill-
Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
-Ronald Reagan-
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 05:59 PM
Here we go again,another mass shooting in the US.
This time at a Sikh temple in Wisconsin.
Now I am starting this thread early into the investigation and there are still more details coming to light.
Already there are conflicting reports of multiple gunmen like the Batman shooting.The FBI are now calling this domestic terrorism.
Personally I believe there is too much hate and guns in the US!
Any thoughts?
I believe there should be less hate and guns and more love and hockey in the US.
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 06:17 PM
Considering the troubles we've had at Sikh temples in Canada, I wouldn't be so quick to call this a US issue. If I recall, the weapons of choice at Canadian dust-ups have been table-legs and cricket-bats and machetes and hammers, so I wouldn't be so quick to file it under gun trouble either.Personally I believe there is too much hate and guns in the US!
Any thoughts?
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 06:32 PM
I believe there should be less hate and guns and more love and hockey in the US.
I forget if it was the late Jack Layton or Yoda, but one wise man once said :
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we’ll change the world.
I just hope we can ban all forms of violence one day, be it committed with guns, knives, baseball bats, ice picks, fists, wet towels, dodge balls, scary dogs, ammonium nitrate, arrows, frying pans, the Atom, and sticks & stones…….
Edited by Derek L, 05 August 2012 - 06:33 PM.
The income tax created more criminals than any other single act of government.
-Barry Goldwater-
Some people regard private enterprise as a predatory tiger to be shot. Others look on it as a cow they can milk. Not enough people see it as a healthy horse, pulling a sturdy wagon.
-Winston Churchill-
Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
-Ronald Reagan-
-Barry Goldwater-
Some people regard private enterprise as a predatory tiger to be shot. Others look on it as a cow they can milk. Not enough people see it as a healthy horse, pulling a sturdy wagon.
-Winston Churchill-
Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
-Ronald Reagan-
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 06:41 PM
Yoda, eh?I forget if it was the late Jack Layton or Yoda, but one wise man once said :
My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we’ll change the world.
But yeah, how profound. All we need is for everyone to be full of love, hope, and optimism. Too bad no one ever thought of that before. The world would be so much different.
I lovingly, hopefully, and optimistically think that one day we will ban all of those things.I just hope we can ban all forms of violence one day, be it committed with guns, knives, baseball bats, ice picks, fists, wet towels, dodge balls, scary dogs, ammonium nitrate, arrows, frying pans, the Atom, and sticks & stones…….
Edited by American Woman, 05 August 2012 - 06:46 PM.
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 06:57 PM
Considering the troubles we've had at Sikh temples in Canada, I wouldn't be so quick to call this a US issue. If I recall, the weapons of choice at Canadian dust-ups have been table-legs and cricket-bats and machetes and hammers, so I wouldn't be so quick to file it under gun trouble either.
Well, my mistake. Mea culpa. Based on history, my immediate assumption was that the perpetrator was most likely another Sikh. However, from what I am reading, it appears that the perpetrator was a white guy with anti-immigrant views.
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 08:11 PM
Guns don't kill people, crazy people, idiots and crazy idiots with guns kill people. Gun control means nothing since it would just force the people wanting to commit violent acts to dig deeper and find another way. Look at the multiple mass stabbing incidents in China, gun control sure works well for those people, they died by a knife rather than a gun.
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 09:10 PM
Well, my mistake. Mea culpa. Based on history, my immediate assumption was that the perpetrator was most likely another Sikh. However, from what I am reading, it appears that the perpetrator was a white guy with anti-immigrant views.
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So if it was Sikhs then it wasn't an American issue, but a Sikh issue. If it turns out that the white fella is Christian, then is it an American problem or a Christian problem?
In my opinion, the gun violence is an American problem, regardless of who is shooting whom. The access and lack of regulation in the USA is killing people
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 10:01 PM
So if it was Sikhs then it wasn't an American issue, but a Sikh issue. If it turns out that the white fella is Christian, then is it an American problem or a Christian problem?
In my opinion, the gun violence is an American problem, regardless of who is shooting whom. The access and lack of regulation in the USA is killing people
Over 250 million private, legal, guns in the United States didn't kill anybody tonight.
The income tax created more criminals than any other single act of government.
-Barry Goldwater-
Some people regard private enterprise as a predatory tiger to be shot. Others look on it as a cow they can milk. Not enough people see it as a healthy horse, pulling a sturdy wagon.
-Winston Churchill-
Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
-Ronald Reagan-
-Barry Goldwater-
Some people regard private enterprise as a predatory tiger to be shot. Others look on it as a cow they can milk. Not enough people see it as a healthy horse, pulling a sturdy wagon.
-Winston Churchill-
Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 10:13 PM
Over 250 million private, legal, guns in the United States didn't kill anybody tonight.
Really?
http://www.khou.com/news/local/1-dead-1-injured-in-accidental-home-shooting-165003976.html
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 10:20 PM
Really?
http://www.khou.com/news/local/1-dead-1-injured-in-accidental-home-shooting-165003976.html
Yup......Care to demonstrate the percentage of legal, private firearms that killed people today? There's an estimated 250-260 million within the United States......
Edited by Derek L, 05 August 2012 - 10:21 PM.
The income tax created more criminals than any other single act of government.
-Barry Goldwater-
Some people regard private enterprise as a predatory tiger to be shot. Others look on it as a cow they can milk. Not enough people see it as a healthy horse, pulling a sturdy wagon.
-Winston Churchill-
Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
-Ronald Reagan-
-Barry Goldwater-
Some people regard private enterprise as a predatory tiger to be shot. Others look on it as a cow they can milk. Not enough people see it as a healthy horse, pulling a sturdy wagon.
-Winston Churchill-
Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
-Ronald Reagan-
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 10:26 PM
Yup......Care to demonstrate the percentage of legal, private firearms that killed people today? There's an estimated 250-260 million within the United States......
Lol
Now you change the goalposts! What a shocker!
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