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Posted 12 August 2012 - 03:05 PM

The Egyptian president has ordered the powerful head of the army and defence minister, Field Marshal Hussein Mohamed Tantawi, into retirement and cancelled constitutional amendments issued by the military restricting presidential powers.

Morsi also sent into retirement the chief of army staff, General Sami Anan, and appointed him as a presidential adviser.


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this is what the egyptians wanted; the end of the old regime which included the powerful military. we'll see how this will unfold.

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 04:35 PM

The Egyptian president has ordered the powerful head of the army and defence minister, Field Marshal Hussein Mohamed Tantawi, into retirement and cancelled constitutional amendments issued by the military restricting presidential powers.

Morsi also sent into retirement the chief of army staff, General Sami Anan, and appointed him as a presidential adviser.


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this is what the egyptians wanted; the end of the old regime which included the powerful military. we'll see how this will unfold.


Into another Iran, most likely. That does seem to be what the Muslim Brotherhood wants.
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Posted 12 August 2012 - 08:08 PM

Expect a coup.
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Posted 12 August 2012 - 10:12 PM

Into another Iran, most likely. That does seem to be what the Muslim Brotherhood wants.


you make that comment based on what?

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Posted 12 August 2012 - 10:14 PM

Expect a coup.


that's what some are saying could happen. there are still many high ranking military officials who have gained power through the old regime and probably want to hold onto their power.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 07:20 AM

Expect a coup.


That already happened last year.
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Posted 13 August 2012 - 08:45 AM


Expect a coup.

that's what some are saying could happen. there are still many high ranking military officials who have gained power through the old regime and probably want to hold onto their power.



Expect a coup.

That already happened last year.

The alternative is a cutoff of Western funds which are the lifeblood of the Egyptian kleptocracy, now headed by Morsi. Even a gutless wonder such as Obama can't send billions of U.S. dollars to an Iranian-style regime. And unlike Iran Egypt doesn't have the oil wealth to fuel it.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 08:51 AM

that's what some are saying could happen. there are still many high ranking military officials who have gained power through the old regime and probably want to hold onto their power.


I think most of the higher ups in the military are more concerned with their financial interests than anything. If Morsi can make them happy he can pull a little political power from them and still survive.

I can't say I was expecting Tantawi being turfed though. We will see how smart Morsi is. He appears to be fairly shrewd.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 09:33 AM

I think most of the higher ups in the military are more concerned with their financial interests than anything. If Morsi can make them happy he can pull a little political power from them and still survive.

I can't say I was expecting Tantawi being turfed though. We will see how smart Morsi is. He appears to be fairly shrewd.


it was a bold move. but of course, i'm sure there were some deals in the back rooms with the rest of the council. the revolution continues:

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Crowds in Cairo praise Morsi's army overhaul

Thousands gather in Tahrir Square to support move to replace defence minister and army chief by President Mohamed Morsi.




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Posted 13 August 2012 - 10:27 AM

Encouraging news, but I also think this is even more encouraging:

http://en.wikipedia....er_attack#Egypt

Essentially you have Israel and Egypt working out a security agreement on the fly and Egypt conducting intense operations against Islamist terrorists, all spearheaded by the Egyptian President (on the Egyptian side).

Not getting a lot of publicity, but very significant.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 10:34 AM

it was a bold move. but of course, i'm sure there were some deals in the back rooms with the rest of the council. the revolution continues:

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Crowds in Cairo praise Morsi's army overhaul

Thousands gather in Tahrir Square to support move to replace defence minister and army chief by President Mohamed Morsi.





Encouraging news, but I also think this is even more encouraging:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Egyptian%E2%80%93Israeli_border_attack#Egypt

Essentially you have Israel and Egypt working out a security agreement on the fly and Egypt conducting intense operations against Islamist terrorists, all spearheaded by the Egyptian President (on the Egyptian side).

Not getting a lot of publicity, but very significant.


By sacking the army brass Morsi makes his base a little happy and even gets some liberals on his side.

I am hoping these moves will give him the maneuverability to continue cooperation with Israel on some issues. Such as the Sinai. I think Egypt, Israel and even Hamas could and should work together to get that area stabilized.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 11:45 AM

I think most of the higher ups in the military are more concerned with their financial interests than anything. If Morsi can make them happy he can pull a little political power from them and still survive.

I can't say I was expecting Tantawi being turfed though. We will see how smart Morsi is. He appears to be fairly shrewd.

I think Morsi's a bit too greedy for that. That is the pattern in these countries.
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Posted 13 August 2012 - 03:37 PM

I think Morsi's a bit too greedy for that. That is the pattern in these countries.


how did you come to the conclusion that morsi is greedy?

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 04:34 PM

Morsi is proving that you can be an Islamist without being a radical Islamist terrorist.

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 08:10 PM

Morsi is proving that you can be an Islamist without being a radical Islamist terrorist.

I think that a month or so into his reign is a bit short to judge. I am suspicious.
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