Homeless people. People who live in rural areas who have their mail sent to General Delivery. People who've recently moved. People who get their bills emailed to them and delete them when they're done. I've known lots of people who are too disorganized to find an old bill. Hell, I used to be one of those people. People who pay room and board have no utility bills. I just saw a post on the Huffington Post from a guy who said his wife couldn't vote without vouching. She doesn't have a drivers license and the bills/bank statements come addressed to him.
Nice try but:
General delivery: This was fixed in 2007 with the passing of the Residence of Verification bill.
Get bills emailed: Requesting one paper bill will take approximately a 5 second phone call or email to any bank or utility.
Recently moved: Update address with bank or any utility, have them send you paper statement. I had to do this to get driver's in new province. Went to bank, updated address, had printout with new address. Took about 10 min. Went and got driver's same day.
Too disorganized: That's your own fault, you're disenfranchising yourself. Even in that case, you can get a copy of an old utility (if you lost it) with a simple phone call or email.
Pay room and board: Those people still have bank accounts, debit and credit cards.
Wife can't vote: Add her to anything, get printout.
Homeless: The is the hardest one. Yet, even the homeless can use correspondence with social assistance (which does not require a fixed address) or even attestation by a soup kitchen (read the elections act).
Just for fun though, let's think about the absurdity of the homeless example. What you're implying with this argument is a homeless guy who fulfills all of the following:
- Is able to identify the current day, and realize when election day occurs
- Prioritizes voting
- Successfully voted in the last election
- Has somebody in their social circle who has it together enough to have documents themselves, and is willing to vouch for them (you know, one of those regular established and responsible people the homeless are known to associated with).
- Is too incapable of gathering the available options, yet organized enough to find this person and arrange to have them vouch for them at an appointed time
Boy I would love to meet this truly unique homeless person. The number of homeless falling into this description is probably somewhere between zero and zero.
Just because you lack the imagination to come up with scenarios where people lack ID doesn't mean they don't exist.
Well you've got me there. I'm stuck on identifying an actual person rather than an imaginary one.
And it's just plain wrong to disenfranchise people on the basis of solving a problem that nobody can substantiate.
You would need a mechanism to substantiate it, in order to do so. As we don't have one, it's a lot like pointing out that a blind person cannot identify a sunset.
Take the argument further. If the point is ease of voting, why stop at vouching? Just put it as an anonymous poll online that anyone can access, set up like the a daily CBC poll. No need to register or anything, just log in and vote. After all, why ask for any kind of formal process to verify, that would be 'disenfranchising' somebody somewhere.
Edited by hitops, 01 April 2014 - 07:29 AM.