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Doctors and opioids, a troublesome connection.

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dre    49
On 4/7/2017 at 7:38 PM, hernanday said:

We need to lock them up and throw away the key so they can get clean.  The problem is laziness and poor morals and a culture which has not taught these kids right from wrong so they engage in rampant drug use, lock them up, re-educate them.

Oh I see... youre just kidding. Sorry!

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hernanday    31
On 4/10/2017 at 1:40 PM, dre said:

Oh I see... youre just kidding. Sorry!

No, I am serious, lock those thugs up, life in prison for druggies.

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blackbird    89
On 2016-10-03 at 2:19 PM, Machjo said:

Perhaps it's time we required any prescription for a particularly addictive drug like an opiod to get two physicians' signatures? Just a thought.

That would cost the medical system too much.  Too many people visiting doctors already for very questionable reasons.

When I was visiting Manitoba last year, I found they had brought in a new regulation requiring anyone to get a doctor's prescription to buy 222s with caffiene & codiene.  So when you have a headache and need some 222s, you can't even walk into a drugstore and get them.  I was shocked.  This is costing Manitoba a fortune.   You must wait until the walk-in clinic opens and go sit there, maybe for a couple hours.  Glad I don't live in Manitoba.  How much does it cost the medical system in Manitoba for one doctor's visit?   Far more than the cost of a bottle of 222s.

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http://archive.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/what-happened-to-the-poster-children-of-oxycontin-r65r0lo-169056206.html

http://www.cnn.com/specials/health/painkiller-opioid-addiction

Rather than saying 'I can handle it', supporters of prescription opioids need to look at the overall statistical risk of addiction in patients who have been prescribed these drugs. The risk of subsequent drug abuse is particularly high in young people.       

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On 4/12/2017 at 3:38 AM, hernanday said:

No, I am serious, lock those thugs up, life in prison for druggies.

What about all the geezers who take massive doses of opioids for back pain?

BTW driving while stoned on opioids is commoner than we would like to think. Lots of older people are doing it. 

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bcsapper    385
8 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

It's off topic a little but so is this.  A lot of doctors lack a clue, it seems.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/antibiotic-prescriptions-1.4105460

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1 hour ago, bcsapper said:

It's off topic a little but so is this.  A lot of doctors lack a clue, it seems.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/antibiotic-prescriptions-1.4105460

In both instances, doctors have an obligation to do what is right for the patient and the community even if it is not what the patient wants, and patients should not be going to their doctors demanding these things either. The threat from antibiotic resistance is terrifying. Bacteria have been at this game for many millions of years and adapt rapidly. Meanwhile, drug companies are spending their resources on all sorts of exotic medications when they really should be figuring out ways to stop us regressing to the Victorian era in treating infection. We need a new funding model where companies are paid to develop antibiotics that are used as sparingly as possible. 

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On 2017-05-02 at 11:11 AM, SpankyMcFarland said:

What about all the geezers who take massive doses of opioids for back pain?

BTW driving while stoned on opioids is commoner than we would like to think. Lots of older people are doing it. 

And not so old people. The drug results in this case will be interesting:

http://www.theroot.com/is-tiger-woods-addicted-to-pain-medications-1795727030

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2017/05/tiger-woods-is-the-new-face-of-americas-drugged-driving-problem/528525/

 

 

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eyeball    628

Traffic under the control of computers are the only thing that will cure the problem of vehicles operated by drugged/drunk/distracted/or otherwise stupefied drivers.

Of course I expect conservatives not to mention the enforcement/judicial industrial complex of police, prosecutors, lawyers, prison operators, etc etc will need to be dragged kicking and screaming all the way towards this conclusion.

Automated driving will throw so many millions out of work they'll probably need drugs and alcohol to kill the pain.

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GostHacked    118
23 hours ago, eyeball said:

Traffic under the control of computers are the only thing that will cure the problem of vehicles operated by drugged/drunk/distracted/or otherwise stupefied drivers.

Of course I expect conservatives not to mention the enforcement/judicial industrial complex of police, prosecutors, lawyers, prison operators, etc etc will need to be dragged kicking and screaming all the way towards this conclusion.

Automated driving will throw so many millions out of work they'll probably need drugs and alcohol to kill the pain.

That's been something Peterson has been talking about.  The psychology of loosing a job and getting on medication for depression and the mental state deteriorates which results in chronic pain meaning a total dependency on these drugs to get by. The more jobs lost to technology the less useful we as humans feel. It's the purpose in life which drives us, no purpose, no drive and welcome to Depression Town.

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eyeball    628

More to the point it's the psychology of denigrating the unfortunately unemployed and rubbing their noses in the moral imperative to produce that does the most harm. Probably by people employed in the government or shareholders of companies that receive public subsidies.

Oil workers often seem a little full of themselves too - oblivious to the subsidies their 'productivity' rests on.

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Cum Laude    51

The so called opium epidemic is raging in Bernie Sanders' home state of Vermont. He doesn’t have to go to West Virginia or Kentucky to find it.

Junkies are amongst Sanders biggest supporters in the Green Mountain State. They line up behind the old hippies and lefties from Brooklyn, Manhattan, the Bronx, Boston and North Hampton who’ve moved into Vermont over the past 50 years and taken over the politics of the state, leaving Yankee natives unrepresented and out in the cold.

Sanders himself came up north out of the Bronx and has done pretty well for himself pedaling his 1930s style socialism. Have you ever noticed, lefty politics pays pretty good for the people on top? (the Castro’s with their $3 billion is Spanish and German banks, Sanders with his 3 houses) Orwell saw thru this BS in his book Animal Farm 70 years ago.

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