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Separation ..... always on the table for Canadians.

Quebec threatening separation .... ad infinitum. The Federal Government ass kissing ad infinitum.  A dog chasing its tail .....

What if ..... the four western provinces, Yukon and the old NWT separated to become a vibrant 'cancer free' country of its own. No more transfer payments pouring into the third world Maritime Provinces, same for that 'have-not' cancer that is Quebec ...... and the fact is that, Ontario needs the West more than we need them.  

With two more ice free months due to global warming, shipping to Europe via Churchill would be feasible .... and of course, the western shipping to Asia via Vancouver/Prince Rupert.

Let Ontario decide which direction to align with .... east or west.  No special status. All have an equal say/seats in the new Western govt.  Manufacturing and the needed resources are all here.

Next time the 'spoiled child' of Canada threatens separation ..... show them the door.  You can bet that the northern FN groups, and other ceded/gifted lands won't be included in the 'separated Quebec' .... Quebec will be a strip of real estate along the St Lawrence ..... help the spoiled little kid with the pissy pants leave. The rest of us will be better off for it.

Am really tired of Ontario and Quebec calling the shots in this country.

Otherwise ..... How are ya' ..... ?

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Little late now. Harper took care of that, unless trudeau forces the issue. And quebec alway ran the country till harper but they have the power again.

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On 1/14/2018 at 9:24 PM, Nefarious Banana said:

What if ..... the four western provinces, Yukon and the old NWT separated to become a vibrant 'cancer free' country of its own.

Count me in, it would sure be a lot easier to make Vancouver Island a vibrant 'Eastern Bastard free' country of our own too.

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On 1/14/2018 at 9:24 PM, Nefarious Banana said:

Separation ..... always on the table for Canadians.

Quebec threatening separation .... ad infinitum. The Federal Government ass kissing ad infinitum.  A dog chasing its tail .....

What if ..... the four western provinces, Yukon and the old NWT separated to become a vibrant 'cancer free' country of its own. No more transfer payments pouring into the third world Maritime Provinces, same for that 'have-not' cancer that is Quebec ...... and the fact is that, Ontario needs the West more than we need them.  

With two more ice free months due to global warming, shipping to Europe via Churchill would be feasible .... and of course, the western shipping to Asia via Vancouver/Prince Rupert.

Let Ontario decide which direction to align with .... east or west.  No special status. All have an equal say/seats in the new Western govt.  Manufacturing and the needed resources are all here.

Next time the 'spoiled child' of Canada threatens separation ..... show them the door.  You can bet that the northern FN groups, and other ceded/gifted lands won't be included in the 'separated Quebec' .... Quebec will be a strip of real estate along the St Lawrence ..... help the spoiled little kid with the pissy pants leave. The rest of us will be better off for it.

Am really tired of Ontario and Quebec calling the shots in this country.

Otherwise ..... How are ya' ..... ?

I have been waiting and waiting for decades now and have been praying that Quebec would screw off and go separate. They can take Ontario with them seeing that Ontario loves their Quebec. The West can go it alone. We have all we need in resources to live a very good life without having to live with the many forced programs and agendas like bilingualism and multiculturalism that the french have shoved down our Western throats for decades now. The West could save billions just by getting rid of those two mentioned above agendas. No more money for the franco'phony' games anymore. Be able to control our own borders and have a say as to who can immigrate to Western Canada and who cannot. 

Quebec is able to blackmail the rest of the country with their separation threats because of the cowardly Anglophone politicians in the rest of the country who refuse to stand up to these french bullies, and the french know that all to well. And if they should one day leave then they had better take their share of the national debt, and the West will take theirs. We would be able to pay off that debt in no time provided we vote in politicians who are all for more freedom, less taxes, and less government. A real taxpayer's Western party. Go, Quebec, go. Works for me. :D

 

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20 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Count me in, it would sure be a lot easier to make Vancouver Island a vibrant 'Eastern Bastard free' country of our own too.

So what are your exports? I love Vancouver island, but I don't remember much in the way of industry.

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56 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

So what are your exports? I love Vancouver island, but I don't remember much in the way of industry.

We are talking about Western Canada separation, not Vancouver only separation. 

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You western guys make me laugh, must get tiring just thinking about always having to carry Canada on your backs....all day and night....you must be all supermen, 8 feet tall with capes and them fancy boots,...... shit i forgot to bend the knee and say sir.......why in the hell you want to go and team up with BC and all the treehuggers i don't know and Manitoba what are you thinking.....shit i'd take 3 maritimes before i picked those two......shit i'd take queerbec before them....ok maybe not Quebec, maybe Ontario.....

you guys been talking about separation longer than queerbec has....Maybe it's time to shit or get off the pot....make a decision.....or get a life....or maybe it's time to move on man....

As for us third world maritime provinces  we will get along fine without you, we have in the past and we can once again.....besides you separate and your maritime work force  went home, who's  going to work the oil sands for you, the french, what about them ontario pansies oh ya shit tonnes of work will get done then, they're all gums and lips talk the ear right off ya....well my western friend your starting to sound just like em.....all talk and no action....

 

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7 hours ago, ?Impact said:

So what are your exports? I love Vancouver island, but I don't remember much in the way of industry.

Fish and forestry products. Less of each of course but interestingly a greater proportion of what's left is shipped out unprocessed.

Being a country might let us do something about both deficiencies. Being in Canada is largely why we have them.

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On 1/18/2018 at 3:36 PM, taxme said:

We are talking about Western Canada separation, not Vancouver only separation. 

If we are going to juggle borders around, I would much rather trade Alberta to the US for Seattle and Oregon. That way would get rid of our bible belt.

Or take it one step further and implement this...

map-jesusland.jpg

 

The coastal regions of the US are really more "Canadian" than "American" anyways as far as political attitudes go anyways, and the bible thumping pig farmers in Alberta would integrate nicely with Idaho, Montana, Utah, Texas, etc.

Folks in the United States of Canada could have a technology, science, and evidence driven society, and people in Jesus land could blab on about god, vote conservative, fuck their sisters and cousins, farm hogs and wheat, and build big border walls.

The two societies could augment each other quite nicely.

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How the hell does Ontario need the west?  Ontario spent decades paying transfer payment money to develop the West.  Ontario will thrive without the West oil dollar ruining its manufacturing.

 

The West has oil that Ontario doesn't even use.  Seriously, there is very little inter provincial trade, Ontario's main trade partners are the midwest and europe, china and oil arab nations.

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18 hours ago, dre said:

If we are going to juggle borders around, I would much rather trade Alberta to the US for Seattle and Oregon. That way would get rid of our bible belt.

Or take it one step further and implement this...

map-jesusland.jpg

 

The coastal regions of the US are really more "Canadian" than "American" anyways as far as political attitudes go anyways, and the bible thumping pig farmers in Alberta would integrate nicely with Idaho, Montana, Utah, Texas, etc.

Folks in the United States of Canada could have a technology, science, and evidence driven society, and people in Jesus land could blab on about god, vote conservative, fuck their sisters and cousins, farm hogs and wheat, and build big border walls.

The two societies could augment each other quite nicely.

You sure make it appear as though you hate white people and Christianity alright. Am I on the right track here? 

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25 minutes ago, taxme said:

You sure make it appear as though you hate white people and Christianity alright. Am I on the right track here? 

Again with the white people, you realize that the blue areas of the map above contain more white people than the red areas. Also more people that consider themselves Christian, although fewer bible thumpers.

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1 hour ago, ?Impact said:

Again with the white people, you realize that the blue areas of the map above contain more white people than the red areas. Also more people that consider themselves Christian, although fewer bible thumpers.

Why don't you just admit it that you despise white people, and be honest about it?   

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On 1/18/2018 at 2:38 PM, ?Impact said:

So what are your exports? I love Vancouver island, but I don't remember much in the way of industry.

Is your house built of wood ?

You do use toilet paper ..... maybe not ?

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On 1/18/2018 at 4:39 PM, Army Guy said:

You western guys make me laugh, must get tiring just thinking about always having to carry Canada on your backs....all day and night....you must be all supermen, 8 feet tall with capes and them fancy boots,...... shit i forgot to bend the knee and say sir.......why in the hell you want to go and team up with BC and all the treehuggers i don't know and Manitoba what are you thinking.....shit i'd take 3 maritimes before i picked those two......shit i'd take queerbec before them....ok maybe not Quebec, maybe Ontario.....

you guys been talking about separation longer than queerbec has....Maybe it's time to shit or get off the pot....make a decision.....or get a life....or maybe it's time to move on man....

As for us third world maritime provinces  we will get along fine without you, we have in the past and we can once again.....besides you separate and your maritime work force  went home, who's  going to work the oil sands for you, the french, what about them ontario pansies oh ya shit tonnes of work will get done then, they're all gums and lips talk the ear right off ya....well my western friend your starting to sound just like em.....all talk and no action....

 

You lived on 'the dole' until the cod came back .....

You don't like the western provinces ?  Well you sure like the Alberta/Ft. Mac money ...... and the transfer payments pouring in to the maritime provinces.

 

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On 1/20/2018 at 11:34 PM, H10 said:

How the hell does Ontario need the west?  Ontario spent decades paying transfer payment money to develop the West.  Ontario will thrive without the West oil dollar ruining its manufacturing.

 

The West has oil that Ontario doesn't even use.  Seriously, there is very little inter provincial trade, Ontario's main trade partners are the midwest and europe, china and oil arab nations.

Is Toronto a country ..... ?

 

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On ‎2018‎-‎01‎-‎18 at 4:39 PM, Army Guy said:

You western guys make me laugh, must get tiring just thinking about always having to carry Canada on your backs....all day and night....you must be all supermen, 8 feet tall with capes and them fancy boots,...... shit i forgot to bend the knee and say sir.......why in the hell you want to go and team up with BC and all the treehuggers i don't know and Manitoba what are you thinking.....shit i'd take 3 maritimes before i picked those two......shit i'd take queerbec before them....ok maybe not Quebec, maybe Ontario.....

you guys been talking about separation longer than queerbec has....Maybe it's time to shit or get off the pot....make a decision.....or get a life....or maybe it's time to move on man....

As for us third world maritime provinces  we will get along fine without you, we have in the past and we can once again.....besides you separate and your maritime work force  went home, who's  going to work the oil sands for you, the french, what about them ontario pansies oh ya shit tonnes of work will get done then, they're all gums and lips talk the ear right off ya....well my western friend your starting to sound just like em.....all talk and no action....

 

In BC we do have a lot of tree huggers.  Their busy now protesting the Kinder Morgan pipeline.  Maybe once that gets going, they will lay off and go somewhere else to protest something but I doubt it.  The living is too easy here in BC and with a Green/NDP government, there no chance they will leave.  Social program spending will increase under the NDP and it will encourage even more of them to move out here.  I see them around from time to time with their hungry signs and tin cups, when the protesting business is slow.

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12 minutes ago, blackbird said:

encourage even more of them to move out here

What are the prerequisites for the protesting business, and how do I apply? It is kind of late this year, but I am thinking next winter on Vancouver island will be a welcome change from shoveling snow and slipping and nearly killing myself several times when the sidewalks become very icy.

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1 hour ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Is Toronto a country ..... ?

3 minutes ago, H10 said:

no

 

If Toronto was a country, it would rank #43 (GDP) in the world.

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2 hours ago, ?Impact said:

If Toronto was a country, it would rank #43 (GDP) in the world.

point being?

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BC would still object to the pipeline and Alberta won't have the Feds to enforce it.

Also, you have only one Conservative Government in the four western provinces. BC and Alberta are NDP and Saskatchewan is Socialist Credit (a cleptocracy based on the old BC model of Socialist Credit).

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On 1/15/2018 at 12:21 PM, PIK said:

Little late now. Harper took care of that, unless trudeau forces the issue. And quebec alway ran the country till harper but they have the power again.

PIK, well said.

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Without Québec and Alberta, what would "Canada" be?

Ontario would be Michigan and Toronto would be Detroit.

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Seperation!!!!!!!!! you want to separate?...for Quebec....we give them back what they had as they signed confederation!!!!!!!!!! That was Upper Canada...50 miles on each side of the St. Lawrence RIVER...Quebec City ........ Montreal.......Ottawa .....  Kingston.....If the vote to separate is 51% for!!! and 49%nay  you split upper Canada into those exact portions 51/49....... The 51% will call themselves any thing they want... The 49% that voted to stay in Canada will be split between Ontario and and that massive Land area which will be still called the province of Quebec. Give the winners Quebec city and 50 miles north and south of the St. Lawrence....it will be the last time they whine!!!!!!!!!!!!! and do the same for every other province that wishes to leave

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1 hour ago, SirEric said:

and do the same for every other province that wishes to leave

That would mean that neither Alberta nor Saskatchewan would get the oil sands, the northern halves of both those provinces were part of the district of Athabasca (Alberta), and North - West territories (Saskatchewan). In fact Saskatchewan wouldn't get the southern quarter either, district of Assiniboia. Manitoba would be much smaller, Ontario would be smaller as well although essentially everywhere the roads go today (including what most people think of as northern Ontario) would be part of Ontario. The coastal provinces (both coasts) would remain essentially as they are.

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