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TimG

Member Since 20 Jun 2010
Offline Last Active Jun 03 2013 08:00 PM
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In Topic: New Study Says Wind Turbines are Bad For The Health

03 June 2013 - 04:25 PM

there are very few benefits to BC with the northern pipeline and yet you criticized BC for its stance on the risks vs. rewards.

BC has legal and moral obligation to allow other partners in the federation to get their goods to market. If BC feels that the risk/reward ratio for the northern gateway is too large then the southern line should be expanded. I am not personally convinced the northern line is worthwhile. I would rather see a pipeline through Ontario + a pipeline through Vancouver.

The only people I call Luddites are people who mindlessly oppose all pipelines under any conditions or who reject the notion that BC has an legal and moral obligation to find a way for Alberta to get its goods to the pacific coast. How would BC fare if Washington State and Alberta decided to prohibit the passage of BC products through their territory? I am sure people in BC would be up is arms (and rightly so).

In Topic: New Study Says Wind Turbines are Bad For The Health

03 June 2013 - 02:05 PM

it's simply too easy to shoot em' down... as I've done for eons now!

You see this is a perfect example of your clueless and dishonest debating tactics.

I made a very specific point: that you do not address the points made by a source but simply hurl ad homs at the source.

You ignore that point completely and claim that your endless ad homs mean you presented a meaningful argument.

It is delusional nonsense.

I can also understand why you disparage putting an argument into your own words because that would require that you understand the material that you are parroting - something which is clearly beyond your capabilities.

In Topic: New Study Says Wind Turbines are Bad For The Health

03 June 2013 - 01:58 PM

It's not surprising since you don't find an overall problem with nuclear energy (claiming zero emissions) and do not find an overall potential problem here with wind turbines.

It is cost vs. benefit. Nothing is zero risk and the question is always "do the cost/risks out weigh the benefits". When it comes to nuclear it is pretty clear the potential benefits outweigh the risks. With wind power the benefits are low to non-existent so the risks become more relevant.

In Topic: New Study Says Wind Turbines are Bad For The Health

03 June 2013 - 11:53 AM

Remember when doctors actually recommended smoking?

The only reference I can find to support this claim are adverts in the 50s where 9 or 10 doctors recommended brand X. Saying that if you want to kill yourself you will do more slowly with Brand X is not the same as recommending smoking. I also saw another reference to a nurses association that recommended smoking to pregnant women keep the birth weight down. As bizarre as it is it does not suggest that smoking is 'good for you'.

We've seen it on so many occasions where a product, application or system was deemed safe until problems were discovered.

And why is this an issue?

In Topic: New Study Says Wind Turbines are Bad For The Health

03 June 2013 - 11:32 AM

which frankly goes against he forum rules and guidelines. You're required to substantiate your claims.

I provide more support for my claims than you do. I just don't do it by default because, as I mentioned above, what is the point if no one cares enough to ask?

Also, there is absolutely no point is providing sources to someone like waldo who responds with ad homs against the source instead of actually addressing the arguments made by the source.