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An experiment to see if this is a better way of discussing things rationally - by removing irrational posts. Even idiots are free to respond (you know who you are) and I will only delete your post if it's idiotic or trolling. Ie, any talk Jewish conspiracies, or dick waving by Americans is gonna get deleted.
  1. What's new in this club
  2. He's already GOT dementia. And it seems to me there are a number of vaccines out there which have nothing to do with the US.
  3. Imagine a guy so fucking stupid he thinks you can't tell if you have a disease that's killed millions of people.
  4. You omit the fact that prison sentence is determined by a judge on a case by case basis. The principle for detainment is to protect the public. But a prison sentence is also a terrible tragedy because it affects the perpetrator for the rest of their life. I’m no psychologist but it seems there is a certain “will to criminality” that exists in some people. It is a defect like sociopathy. Others may commit crime out of desperation. Others still, by accident. I think the first type is irredeemable, needs some jail. The second and third might not need prison but might be “unreliable” to have around in emergencies, if you know what I mean. They could all perhaps be reformed, but not in a prison.
  5. Many people who are in prison are bad or evil but among the many offenses or crimes they have committed some have been retained and they have been sentenced to prison. What complicates things is that there are also a lot of people who are not in prison because they are bad or evil. There are people who are there because a manipulator incited them to commit a crime, because they ran over a kid in a car, because they sold drugs, for stealing etc. From what I understand, prison is experienced as a psychological torture and there are rapes or sexual violence that lead to many suicides. I think that the concern of the people who work there isn't be able to rehabilitate prisoners but to make sure that there isn't too much crime or mess in their prison. Prison is a kind of modern torture chamber where it's hoped that it will frighten bad people, sexual predators, thieves, etc. away from committing their crimes.
  6. A large chunk of people who wind up in prison have mental/emotional issues, lack of self-control, lack of impulse control, lack of empathy for others. Prison simply gathers such people together, which makes living there extremely difficult and violent. I think prisons do a lousy job of rehabilitation. At best, the cage violent people and keep them away from society for a period of time and act as a deterrent to some who would otherwise commit more crime.
  7. I watch videos about prison or jail. I have never been to prison nor do I intend to go there but even if you aren't to go in prison you are confronted with violence, with things that you find in documentaries or reality TV about prison. I don't confuse reality with reality TV and I don't naively believe everything a documentary says but I find relevant information in it. Sometimes we get into physical fights but the reason is self-defense because we are physically attacked (so we are forced to react and fight). Otherwise we tend to have verbal clashes and avoid physical confrontation as much as possible. There is the robbery with violence as the car-jacking and there it's better to do nothing and then to complain to the police. But in prison there seems to be a clearer requirement to be prepared to do physical fighting and to make it happen because I think disrespect and harassment are far too dangerous and destructive.
  8. Barbara Kay details the degree of antisemitism in the UK and Ireland. She doesn't really suggest a cause but I wouldn't doubt the growing number of Muslims in the UK is directly correlated with rising levels of antisemitism. At what point does anecdotal evidence of a virus conjure visions of a pandemic? For an answer to that question, a recently published book, The Taming of the Jew, by Israeli-American journalist and theatre director Tuvia Tenenbom is a good place to start. In it, Tenenbom portrays the U.K. as a population marbled top to bottom with a fat streak of anti-Semitism. A cherubic, chubby polyglot — German, Hebrew, Arabic, (strongly German-accented) English — Tenenbom’s journalistic shtick is to wander around countries as a gregarious bumpkin chatting up ordinary people and local officials to elicit their views on all manner of topics. When he presents himself as “Tobias” or “Tobi,” a German reporter, the conversation usually wends its way to Israel. Lulled into trust by Tobi’s benign and affectionate come-on, his interlocutors spout their Jew hatred freely, as Tenenbom listens with attentive non-judgmentalism. https://nationalpost.com/opinion/barbara-kay-so-many-people-hate-you-documenting-the-u-k-s-burgeoning-anti-semitism
  9. The indication was there that the fix was in on that one when they refused a change of venue. Then there was this: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/george-floyd-chauvin-trial-jury-1.5984002
  10. The first thoughtful piece I've read which disputes the Derek Chauven trial and finding of murder. Derek Chauvin may have caused George Floyd’s death, but the established medical facts alone would seem to preclude certainty. According to the coroner’s report, Floyd suffered from “cardiopulmonary arrest”; he had “severe arteriosclerotic heart disease” and “hypertensive heart disease”, and had recently recovered from Covid-19, a destructive cardiovascular condition (even in asymptomatic patients). He had fentanyl and methamphetamine in his system, a potentially lethal combination. He was obviously agitated; he physically struggled with police with enough determination to prevent them from putting him in the back of a vehicle. During a prior and very similar arrest he was hospitalised, leading to concerns about the possibility that his agitation would cause him to have a spontaneous heart attack. He complained of an inability to breathe before he was ever put on the ground. So why did the jury convict on all counts? And how did they arrive at their decision so quickly? The probable answer is disturbing, and has deep implications for justice in America. https://unherd.com/2021/05/the-day-american-justice-died/
  11. It seems the cult of woke has even infested Jewish religious organizations. This is an interesting story of how a liberal compromised his values in order to avoid being demonized, went along with things he knew were wrong, until he finally quit. When a group of black Jews organized that fall 2016 meeting with Black Lives Matter activists in New York, in an effort to repair the black-Jewish rift, I jumped at the opportunity. I was initially denied entry because of an article I’d written that was critical of intersectionality (the theory that requires all social-justice dialogue to begin from the premise that the worth of a person’s perspective may be evaluated through a mechanical analysis of their intersecting markers of identity). But after lengthy discussions with a proxy for one of the organizers (in which I was told I needed to “do the work”) and my issuing a mea culpa for my published article, I was allowed in. This was the first of several compromises I made, through which I betrayed my liberal values in a bid to appease people or groups with anti-liberal agendas. As I learned, it was never enough. And I now regret going down this path. The white Jewish leaders who attended were told in advance that they were expected to come and listen—to be seen and not heard. There would be a time to ask questions in small groups, but we were not allowed to challenge anything we heard during the main discussion. The speakers were presented as authentic voices of marginalized communities. What we were hearing was revealed truth. There were many firsts that evening. It was the first time I heard black Jews say white Jews had benefited from white supremacy, and so needed to “shed” their “whiteness.” I came to later understand that, like other privileged groups, such as Asian Americans, we were guilty of “white adjacency.” The path to forgiveness could only begin (though of course would not end) with an acknowledgement of our complicity in white supremacy, a confession that also would serve to indicate our acceptance of intersectionality and related doctrines. Needless to say, I have no tolerance for actual white supremacists—who typically have no less contempt for Jews than for other minority groups. For the speakers lecturing us, however, white supremacy had a far broader meaning. The term described the entire fundamental organizing principle of America itself, and indeed all Western countries. This meaning of the term is now commonly at play in social-justice parlance, but at the time, it was new and confusing to many of us. But I didn’t dare ask questions, let alone challenge the dubious claims I was hearing. I knew, on some level, that this was part of a power play within the Jewish community, an exercise meant to make people like me feel silent, humiliated, and powerless. The generous interpretation of this spectacle is that it was an educational interlude: We were being made to feel like blacks often feel in the midst of whites. But it was also made clear that this meeting wasn’t a one-off consciousness-raising session: Our role moving forward, we were told, was to acknowledge our own guilt, “make space” for non-whites, and “lift up” black voices. This was not civil rights as I knew it, or any other social justice movement predicated on a spirit of cooperation and equality. The room was divided between those being shamed and those doing the shaming. https://quillette.com/2021/07/05/standing-up-to-the-social-justice-mobs-within-the-jewish-community/
  12. Except that never happened. This happens all the time though.

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