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  1. What's new in this club
  2. Egyptians and Mayans observed the planets and made forecasts on flooding. They aligned their buildings to the stars. So I would say space history starts when human history does. Probably went back before that, we don't know what they knew back before about 5000 years ago. The same curiosity and ingenuity is what drove their interests back then as now. Mythology is a living force that still exists today. Only instead of saying "God is in the gaps" we now say "Dark Matter".
  3. In honor/honour of us getting screwed for well over a year straight... The history of the screwdriver.
  4. The Mysterious Return Of NASA's Centaur Rocket
  5. we have already discussed things like the discovery of Neptune, which is pre the modern "space age". No one has reported us. You may have to report yourself...
  6. Interesting point. I don't know, but it's possible and could explain why they thought it was 360 days. My belief is that they were just a little inaccurate. You would have to make a long and narrow slit to allow the light to pass through very precisely. If the ground heaved you might be screwed up, so make it a really big rock. These neolithic types certainly knew how to handle that!
  7. I'm not sure what problem you're having, Charles. If you wish to discuss Piccard and his various adventures, this or the General Chat area would be a good place for it. Or just make a new topic...anyone can start one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auguste_Piccard
  8. The way I see things, Everything = The Past but thanks for the leads! They help. Do you believe Piccard's balloon rise happened as reported? I do not. I reckon it is still worthy of historical discussion. Do you believe the days in Ook's time were of the same duration as ours? Do you believe that matters?
  9. The second wave of inventors...these two & their staff did much for rockets as we know them. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Korolev
  10. History = The Past The two fathers of modern rocketry...perhaps the start of Space History. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstantin_Tsiolkovsky https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_H._Goddard
  11. How do you guys define space "history" as distinct from fairy tales? What pivotal event would you say defines when space history starts? I want to distinguish what is seen from the ground with what is seen/discovered from space exploration.
  12. It is possible that information cannot be destroyed, at some level it still exists. The universe is a database. Yes, Venus provides facts for which men have killed, and will kill. Archeo-astronomy is a fascinating field of study that hints at how we developed the very origins of human mythology. There's a Greek play taking place over our heads, with heroes, villains, monsters and beautiful women who need to be rescued. Twelve full moons, twelve months, twelve constellations, 12 apostles. Yet is is well before the Greeks that this play was written and realized. Neolithic man observ
  13. The Great Year is estimated to be around 25k to 30,000 years before everything above us resets. The sheer amount of recorded historical data to be able to calculate that is inhuman. There are only 2 ways that that any of our astronomical public knowledge can possibly exist: 1) The earth is ridiculously old beyond belief and all astronomical historical recorded data has been preserved during all of that time; or 2) divine intervention. Where is all of the recorded astronomical data? Who has been preserving it?? She holds the key to our astro-geom
  14. Here's a link to Mila 18 if interested...you can d/l different formats. https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.148714/page/n3/mode/2up
  15. Panzer Leader (1950) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_Leader_(book) Heinz Guderian's memoirs with the forward by B. H. Liddell Hart. Ol' Heinz is quite the story-teller. He is careful to portray his efforts in regards to Hitler in a...favorable fashion. But the combat stuff is 100% on. PDF included... Guderian Heinz - Panzer leader.pdf
  16. The Battle of Sedan May 12th-15th, 1940 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sedan_(1940) Guderian and his Enigma machine One of those moments in WW2 where things could have gone either way had the Allies thought differently...however, they were firmly entrenched in the tactics of 1918...not 1940. Sedan was Heinz Guderian's big gambit during Case Yellow. He exploited the Ardennes section of the front as it was precisely where the Allies said it was impossible for him to come from. Too rough & forested...too few narrow roads...too few bridges across th
  17. John Wayne in... Flying Tigers (1942) https://ok.ru/video/2696868792832 Flying Leathernecks (1951) https://ok.ru/video/2723130051072
  18. It was also lucky that at the time of Uranus discovery, Neptunes orbit had the two planets close together. If Neptune had been on the other side of the sun its gravity would not have affected Uranus. I think the orbital periods are so long, such alignments only occur on the order of centuries.
  19. This is a pretty good Universe simulator...free as a bird....maintained by astronomer types. Shows things like Jovian eclipses, too! https://celestia.space/ Motherlode: Great 3D nebula and wormholes/blackholes...includes the BIG star data base. http://celestiamotherlode.net/ Forum...includes downloads not found elsewhere. https://celestia.space/forum/index.php
  20. The search for Planet X back in 1930. I think there was a prize up for grabs to the discoverer. Pluto was found using the inconsistency...but it apparently doesn't come close to accounting for all the perturbance to Neptune. Triton is one of my favorite moons...likely a captured Pluto-like TNO. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Neptunian_object https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/01/astronomers-say-neptune-sized-planet-lurks-beyond-pluto https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triton_(moon)
  21. Yes...Venera. As per previous post... In Orbiter, attempts to land on Venus can be funny as the math starts to breakdown the nearer the surface you get. Sixty atmospheres or something crazy like that. Like flying through Jello...minus Bill Cosby.
  22. Also exciting was the discovery of Neptune. After planet Uranus was discovered, its orbit was found to be unusual and astronomers became aware that there was something inconsistent with their calculations. The existence of another planet was speculated, as that would explain the errant behaviour of Uranus. One of the pencil-necked geeks of the time calculated the position of the planet. By then they had telescopes good enough to see Neptune. And lo and behold, pointed to where they thought and there it was. Found by human reasoning and mathematics. Thank you Isaac Newton.
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