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  2. I already argued elsewhere THAT this is often argued incorrectly by the religiously affiliated gay people. They attempt to argue that one is 'born that way' because it is absurd that one would 'choose' to like something they do when it would actually make them relatively perverse relative to their own community. The argument is flawed in that they TRANSFER the fact that their 'choice' is natural TO their actual sexual orientation itself is natural, when it may have more to do with one's present environment. Example: If one is born a physical male, but they happen to look like a 'pretty girl' in their environment, the environment of women in that environment would opt out of wanting to date them AND men in that same environment may be most attracted to them. This actual example of some people demonstrates THAT one can be born 'genetically' in scientific way that makes them more 'normal' to have a gay relationship versus none. Though this extreme example is rare, the point is that this shows that one can be both genetically more favorable of the same actual sex but may or may not BE gay themselves. WHEN such a person DOES like the same sex, this person often falsely interprets the fact of their 'fitness' to the environment is itself 'scientifically' justified but ignores that the evolutionary factor also has to respect that there are those 'born' to look more favorable by the same sex but are NOT gay! Your argument against homosexuality is flawed only if you respect those arguing this way FROM religious communities desiring to alter their religions to 'fit' their own favor. Religious ideology is set conservatively and would be hypocritical to presume their system is flexible to allow novel changes about their parent's religions. What should occur is that these kids should found a new separate religion if they want to maintain the same behavior banned from their parents religion. Instead, they attempt to alter the laws that default to favor religious INTERPRETATION. I agree with you but NOT with the nature of one to CHOOSE. I personally think it alright that one is gay (and have had personally open relations between both men and women). And if you are of a religion that denies this, you are fair to believe what you do against this to remain non-hypocritical. You DO have 'science' more for you than against you with respect to the physical factors. It is relatively unhealthy as it would be for one to opt to eat shit versus pizza. But given ones' choices today CAN allow this behavior without the harm when one is careful, there is no problem. It is actually sincerely correct that one can ENJOY the preference of sexual interactions with the same sex. This is only a fault when we compete in nature apart from civilized society though. An argument FOR it though, ...is that gay people cannot have their own children and so reduces the potential population of the Earth. In this way, try thinking this an advantage. OR...do you prefer more immigrants from those countries who overpopulate to move into Turkey?
  3. About 400.000 so-called scientists publish their so-called scientific articles on so-called science magazines. I am sure there are many "scientific" explanation of homosexuality within them https://ing.dk/artikel/fake-science-tidsskrifter-praemierer-rene-volapyk-213483
  4. Here another perfect evidence that being homo is a pervert choice and behavior disorder. Trans guy try to rape four women in prison, so he is interested with women. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6804433/transgender-lag-sexually-abused-four-female-prisoners-days-after-arriving-at-west-yorkshire-jail/
  5. You are trying to distort issue with irrelevant examples. People may have different voice tones, it has nothing with emulating or being a female. A treble and soft voice tones may turn to sexual deviances. So these males with soft voice tones may be oppressed in various ways in other males and therefore they may end up with deviant ideas in their minds.
  6. So if someone has a feminine voice, they are just faking?
  7. Ofcourse it is. Its a perfect tool to interpret gestures. So the claim was they behave such based on fake genetic stories or fake hormonal influence of the brain during fetal times. I also give evidences that these stories are fake. So lets accept it as being true for a minute, how come these guys having feminine moves that originates because of the physical structure of a female body ? They cant have, they are just imitating.
  8. A video is not evidence of anything.
  9. I gave evidences and logical conclusions in above posts. You just dont want to recognize it.
  10. I love how you want scientific evidence in "your" thread but you come up with insane theories like this.
  11. They just do not reflect their pervert ideas with their moves. I think they are usually the ones attracted to males as dominant side of their perverse relationship. So they still like to be a male but they want to have sex with other males that imitate females.
  12. So your anecdotal video is a blanket assessment of all people that like the same gender? What about people who are attracted to the same gender that don't act like the video you present. And what of heterosexual males who are somewhat effeminate?
  13. I gave you an evidence. You can watch many other homo videos. Read the OP again or I will delete your agressive and disrepectful posts. Homo males are playing a girl role. They have a male body but they are pretending like they actually have a female body. This is a perfect evidence. They are trying to imitate congenital moves of a female body. So they just emulate females.
  14. You are attracted to woman because you should be attrached to women. Your brain, your body is developed in this way. If you force yourself to be attracted to horses, you will achieve that, you will divert your feeling from normal to abnormal. This is your choice, you choose to act contrary to your nature.
  15. You can watch videos of gay priders, most of these guys playing a role by pretending like they are coquettish females. They are just playing a girl role with their male body. These perverts only think that being a female is to reveal ass, reveal legs, tits, shaking ass, duckling lips, whispering sexy words, kissing anyone around. This is because of they are only focused on "sex" part of being a female. Just look at these weird creatures in the video, they are disgusting
  16. Mentally ill teen jailed for 4 years without even a trial. Source: http://bbc.in/2DwnJAb
  17. There is no way for them not to feel a desire to procreate and love as appropriate to the nature. Their body and brain developed in this way. This is a behavior disorder. So at worst these guys had a traumatic period in their life and this caused them to act against their nature. Its like a sheep raised by a dog and sheep starts to act like dogs. These guys just do not want to act as appropriate to the nature, they are OK with their perverted actions, most of these guys are just interested with having sex. Most of them choose to be prostitutes.
  18. What about anyone's sexual preferences is logical? The drive to procreate could be considered logical and instinctual but many hetrosexual people don't desire to procreate and conversely there are many homosexual couples that raise children.
  19. Yeah this is the point. So it is a preference, its a choice and this choice is considered abnormal based on bodily and emotionally properties of men and women. Ofcourse its not scientific too, because its illogical. This is why pro homo people cannot back up their claims with any scientific argument.
  20. Because sexual preference can't be scientifically defined. Only people who are making moral arguments are saying that they're a perversion. Even the term perversion which you use in the OP is a moral judgement, not a scientific one. per·ver·sion pərˈvərZHən/ noun 1. the alteration of something from its original course, meaning, or state to a distortion or corruption of what was first intended. "all great evil is the perversion of a good" synonyms: distortion, misrepresentation, falsification, travesty, misinterpretation, misconstruction,twisting, corruption, subversion, misuse, misapplication, debasement "a twisted perversion of the truth" 2. sexual behavior or desire that is considered abnormal or unacceptable. synonyms: deviance, abnormality; More
  21. Some posters distorts what I say and they mis-quote the part where I said "Homo people are perfectly normal in general with some behavior disorders" in above post and they choose the cherry they like and they only prefer to see the part "Homo people are perfectly normal". Behavior disorder and mental disorder is complately different things. A little baby sucking his/her thumb is not mentally disordered, he just have a behavior disorder or some wealthy people who steals somethings in the shopping centers are not metally disordered, they have a behavior disorder.
  22. Again a poster said that I am distorting what he/she says and he/she also insists that homosexuality was removed from mental disorder list. He/she also keeps insulting people and I deleted the post for this reason. Again, seem like these guys wanted to remove it from mental disorder list because homosexual people are perfectly normal guys in general with some behavior disorders which we call as perversion. For examle opposing anything as long as it does not fit with your personal interests is also a behavior disorder. You may be perfectly healthy person but you have some tendencies that ab-normal. This is your choice, you like to behave in this way and you dont want to behave normal.
  23. Another poster said that homosexuality was removed from mental disorders lists long before and posted the link below. I deleted the original post because the poster insults others who is not agree with him/her. Even if you are the most disgusting person in the planet, I will defend your right to share information and logical conclusion based information. Even if you are the most loved person in the planet but if you cant back up your claim and fanatically defend it, I will delete your post. Source: https://www.psychiatry.org/news-room/apa-blogs/apa-blog/2016/03/homosexuality-as-a-mental-disorder-simply-not-backed-up-by-science This is one of the arguments that pro-homo people often use to justify homosexuality. First of all this decision was not a scientific decision, I read that it was "voted" (source: http://bit.ly/1SAruJN) So here we have a magic word that justifies anything according to "democracy heads". Democracy is just a dictatorship. "Voting" is not something "scientific". Its something "egoistic". On the other hand, these guys voted to remove it from "disorder" list because they could not find any proof to justify it, because homo guys are mostly normal guys and they just choose to be homo. So in summary, pro-homo people keeps abusing the name of "science" for their pervert believes.
  24. I don't have it at my fingertips just now but I recall reading an article that listed the numbers of convicts on death row who, when DNA evidence became acceptable, were found to be innocent. The highest numbers were in Florida and Texas and of course guess who they were, yes, indigent Blacks. One wonders how many were put to death prior to that who had some state appointed lawyer who just got out of law school. I don't call it a death penalty, I refer to it as state sponsored murder. There are of course cases where you think you could take a baseball bat to the perpetrator, but I'll settle for lock them up to protect the public. In a lot of those cases it's a much cheaper approach, even if they eventually come out of jail in a box.
  25. Many of those on the list were convicted of murder, only to be proven as wrong years later. In some cases it was the development of new technologies like DNA matching that proved their innocence, in other cases it was the determination of others ho believed in them and finally turned up evidence of their wrongful conviction. Are you suggesting that even murder convictions be monitored for a while? Remember many people convicted of murder are also first time offenders.
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