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  1. Yesterday
  2. These two things confuse me:

    1.  People on disability/social assistance will get $300 more per month starting on April 22, because of the covid crisis; it's automatic no application required.  I have no problem with paying them more, but I'm confused as to why the government thinks they need it more now than during normal times.  Unlike many people, they still have an income -pittance though it be.

    2.  BCGEU wants to trigger the "me too" clause that says if one segment of the public sevice gets more money, everyone does.  All government employees are considered essential service, but nurses are getting extra because they're on the front lines.  I would think that just being able to work through this is good enough; most government employees aren't exposed to the public since most/all offices have been closed, at least in my sector.  So, in my opinion, this is unnecessary and not the right time to be asking for more money.

    1.  Source - overheard on a Ministry phone line recording;

    2. Source - email from BCGEU.

    1. Hal 9000

      Hal 9000

      It's an income redistribution policy.  None of any of this equates to people laid of due to Coronavirus.  Some welfare queens are taking home $4000 per month, while some working people are getting are getting half that.  A part-time worker and a logger or miner will get the exact same amount (children notwithstanding).

  3. "Canadians are a resilient people. We have overcome diversity before. We will do so again." - Peter MacKay

    1. bcsapper


      Freudian slip?

    2. Hal 9000

      Hal 9000

      Canadians aren't resilient, Canadians are among the weakest humans in the world.  Canadians will do as their told.

  4. Canadian health departments agreed not to order tens of thousands of travellers arriving from China to quarantine in February in order to reduce pressure on public health resources.

    So tens of thousands have landed here and how many hid symptoms or did not isolate...   this is criminal  

    1. Argus


      And yet then they did require such a quarantine on people arriving in Canada, including the tens of thousands coming home from the US. So clearly it was possible to do so. I think they were mostly afraid of being seen as targeting Chinese.

    2. scribblet


      Of course they were, we were told from the beginning we were racist to want travel stopped.

  5. Bernie Sanders quits race....hello Sleepy Joe !

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    2. scribblet


      Thanks, so it's highly unlikely anyone else could take him on.   IMO Biden is the more moderate of the candidates but he does seem to be having too many brain farts.  The big thing here then is his running partner because there's a good chance he/she could become President.

    3. Hal 9000

      Hal 9000

      At this point, I don't think they're "brain farts".  I think it's diminishing capacity.  That said, I'm still not counting out Hillary.


    4. Right To Left

      Right To Left

      You weren't aware that Liz Warren is still lurking in the bushes, waiting for her big break!

      She's going to come charging out with Big Structural Bailey any time now.....as soon as she figures out what her healthcare policy is going to be!

  6. Never discuss metaphysics with rabbits.

  7. Trudeau’s continued inaction is an abomination.  Businesses still haven’t received relief money.  Individuals out of work still haven’t received relief money.  Some hospitals in Toronto are running low on supplies.  People are losing their livelihoods.  Some businesses will go bankrupt before they can reopen.  The Prime Minister must act!

    1. scribblet
    2. AngusThermopyle


      He did, he warned us of the dangers of speaking "moistly". Then he ran back inside the house to get on with day 24 of his 14 day self isolation.

  8. Report: Wuhan Funeral Homes Burned Coronavirus Victims Alive


  9. Sacrifice more and more freedom for security.

    1. bcsapper


      You could sacrifice more security for freedom if you want.  But then somebody might come and lock you up, and you'd have neither!

  10. Last week
  11. Trying to figure a reason why Trump would fire the independent inspector general overseeing the $2 trillion spending program OTHER than wanting to steal as much as he could by diverting it to his businesses and those of the grifters around him.

  12. Today Trudeau announces efforts to produce 30,000 ventilators.  Trump took this measure weeks ago.

    1. dialamah


      My question is why won't the Federal Government give the medical supplies they have stockpiled  to the various States?  Who or what are they saving it for?  It just makes no sense.

      The president’s son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, and other White House officials also said states should not depend on the medicines and medical equipment in the Strategic National Stockpile.

      “It’s supposed to be our stockpile. It’s not supposed to be states’ stockpiles that they then use,” Kushner said at a White House briefing on Thursday.

      If JT said they had a stockpile of medical equipment, but that they were going to keep it and told the provinces "go get your own", you'd be livid.  But it's Trump, so ok?

      So weird. 

    2. Shady


      They have.  Tons of it.  The question should be why doesn’t Canada have a stockpile?  We have to place orders for stuff with American companies and then hope that we get it.

  13. First step in WWIII: Declare state of emergency. Quarantine society, and set up a completely new system of distribution of goods and services, so that people can survive.

    Now that we have that in place, we're all set to go.

    Search terms:

    World Doomsday Clock Statement January 2020

    Tactical Nuclear Weapons

    Hypersonic Missile

    Flexible First Use Policy for Nuclear Weapons

  14. And meanwhile several planeloads of immigrants continue to arrive every single day to a closed down country.

    1. scribblet


      Yes they do, not just immigrants but planeloads of people from China who are not checked or tested, that's the worst part.  They are asked some questions, given a brochure then on their way.   Trudeau's lack of border controls and refusal to lock down travel/border has jeopardized all of us.

  15. Boris Johnson in intensive care.

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    2. Shady
    3. Shady


      You’re entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.

    4. BubberMiley


      When I say "community", I mean the community of New York. I don't believe we have had community transmission in Manitoba yet. 

      When you don't understand the basic terms of what you're talking about, shut up.

  16. New York might have already flattened the curve.

  17. Saw this on Twitter, I think he's right.  Yes leaders have to also practice social distancing etc. but all other leaders are out and about - leading...   not Trudeau.   Many people are wondering if there is something else going on.

    I’m not a psychologist, but majored in psychology, Trudeau’s current behaviour is abnormal, hiding in the cottage and making a daily appearance before the cameras, this is not prime ministerial behaviour, the country is crying for leadership, the premiers are filling in the void

  18. Ford blasts Trump protectionism: ‘When the cards are down, you see who your friends are’.

    1. bcsapper


      Chips.  He meant chips.

    2. Shady


      I understand Ford’s frustration.  But if the situation was reversed, and doctors and nurses in Toronto couldn’t get the protective equipment they need, at the same time Canada was shipping that equipment to other countries, some questions would be raised and action demanded.

    3. Shady


      Regardless, this isn’t protectionism.  Protectionism is practices protecting certain industries from outside competition.  

  19. Has anyone noticed that a lot of what Amazon is selling now offers next MONTH delivery, rather than next day?

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    2. Argus


      I don't believe this is true. It's only on that one site, one I've never heard of before. Just last week they announced they were hiring 10,000 more workers, and just yesterday they announced bonuses for their workers in light of the pandemic danger. Walmart's web site has a 'covid-19 update' page and it says nothing about closing down.

    3. dialamah


      A lot of stores are doing curbside pickup, so that's possible.  By closing, I took that to mean closing to all business.

    4. Argus


      I think if that was the case it would be on their web site and it's not. And I think it would have been covered more widely.

  20. It’s time to think about a class action lawsuit against China.  Something like $50 trillion dollars should do the trick.

    1. betsy


      Trump will probably start it - negotiating for what USA owes China.

    2. Army Guy

      Army Guy

      Australia is talking about seizing Chinese owned based in Australia assets, and restricting foreign investment and purchases by china to zero. 



  21. A crime is being perpetrated on all of us. Yes there is a virus, yes it is bad but by now any rational thinking person should see, the cure is worse than the disease.

    I was talking to some old people, they say they'd rather live their life and take their chances with the virus than all this stopping everything. They would take precautions of course, but bein trapped in your apartment andnot allowed to see your friends, go to the places you always do is like being in a prison. They don't have the internet. This is no way for them to end their lives. Think about it.

    My daughter is a young adult. She told my wife being alone in her house means no more social contact, no dating, no seeing your boyfriend. She has always had a problem with alcohol but has been off it for 2 years. Now that she's home all the time, she confessed she's started drinking again THhe god damn liquor store remains open.

    1. OftenWrong


      We have always lived with disease and always managed it as best we can. Today I see a lot of people suddenly wanting to learn more about virology. For those of us who've worked in the medical field for decades, we don't need to learn it. More importantly, there is nothing new happening here that doesn't happen each year. That people are now aware of viruses and what they do, and want to do something about it is fine. That doesn't justify the radical response we are seeing. This is not just my opinion but the opinion of my medical friends and colleagues who are working in the field, will be tomorrow.

    2. OftenWrong


      If the quarantine does not stop soon this will become a social health disaster. We are in uncharted territory now, alright Mr. fancy talker at the WHO. World Health my arse.

    3. OftenWrong


      Now here's a man who I call a leader- Idaho Governor Brad Little


      Governor Brad Little signed a "proactive emergency declaration" on March 13, when no cases were confirmed. 

      On March 18, Little announced the state was adopting federal guidelines, which urge people not to gather in groups of more than 10. He has also advised residents not to eat at restaurants. 

      Those guidelines are not mandatory, but Little said that was subject to change. 

      "Given the circumstances we have now, we need to do all we can to escalate awareness and preparedness," Little said during a March 15 press conference. "Prepare for the worst-case scenario, but we should also de-escalate alarmism - and that is critical."

      Hardly any other political "leader" is interested in addressing the needs of ordinary people.

  22. Don't forget to check out CPE for exclusive waldo content!

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    2. betsy


      Lol.  Bubb is doing the promo again.   So....Waldo is the CPE's dangling carrot for us to drop by?  :lol:

    3. BubberMiley


      It's awesome. No Russian bots or retarded Trumpers trying to prove they aren't the worst people ever to walk the earth. Mostly conservatives,  true, but sane ones. 

      And plenty of waldo.

    4. bcsapper


      It's okay, but I find the rabid Alberta hatred a bit tiresome.  I prefer this place, and I don't have as much time as I used to.

  23. Trump thanks Biden at his press briefing for coming on board of the travel ban decision, 2 months late.

  24. Amazing that people could be so stupid and so smug about it.

  25. Biden in January:  the travel ban is xenophobic.

    Biden yesterday:  I agree with the travel ban.

    1. betsy


      Dementia moment?

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