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  2. London, Westminster  1960's. Not a stab vest, crash barrier or armed police officer to be seen.

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  3. GostHacked

    Saudi Arabia expells Canadian ambassador

    Who needs open borders when you invite the terrorists to stay? Remember that 17 of the 19.. 9/11 hijackers were SAUDI nationals. Let's keep that in mind if you want to talk perspective.
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  5. Right, heaven help there should be an open debate, a debate which can and should happen without the name calling and finger pointing. Bernier is correct saying that the growth of 'communities' which don't adhere to Canadian/Western values/traditions will eventually lean to an isolated population. This identity politics is reducing us to nothing but tribal clans each with it's own hearth which eventually will wipe out Canadian values and culture. Canada doesn't have the demographics yet but this notion that promoting separateness and that ALL cultures are equal matter how barbaric or misogynist is ridiculous and could be our downfall. Scheer has distanced himself from Bernier and some people are now saying this will cost the Conservatives the election; possibly because people are too scared of being labelled to speak out. We should be angry at Trudeau who says 'There is no core identity, no mainstream in Canada" which is pretty radical, instead of criticizing Maxime Bernier for saying there should be. What's wrong with these people ? I'm adding this article here from Australia which is a long read but does have salient points. https://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/how-i-lost-faith-in-multiculturalism/news-story/f7c75dd449a8c18334460b4d032e5cea
  6. bcsapper

    Complexity of Forum Software

    If you use it for a while, all the stuff you don't need drops away, and all the stuff you use becomes simple, and you forget what the older site looked like.
  7. Michael Hardner

    Complexity of Forum Software

    I have explained this before but I will try a new way: You 'rent' software. This is not created by Greg, but he rents it from Invision and they have no reason to support older versions. Just like you can't ask the Globe and Mail to go back to the font they used in the 1990s, you can't ask Invision to keep old versions around for one site like MLW.
  8. Michael Hardner

    Monetization, Stories, CPM

    Mark my words: there will soon me a new 'democratized' form of money that will satisfy the far-left and far-right. THAT will be the new world network.
  9. Michael Hardner

    The Kryptonite of Justin Trudeau

    1. Really ? You didn't bother to listen to the TAPE of his VOICE I take it. 2. I am not arguing your thesis so much. It actually makes sense to me.
  10. Michael Hardner

    Bernier criticizes Trudeau's "extreme multiculturalism"

    1) I didn't attribute it to you. Not sure why you thought that. 2) I agree that the first, and easiest reaction is to dismiss the idea with that response. I will also agree, begrudgingly, that that claim can sometimes be overused. 3) Of course they can. We had, I think, SIX political parties in parliament last election so tri-party isn't a thing. And we had two major right-ish parties from the 1990s to the 2000s which allowed the Liberals to drive to the centre and dominate. With regards to immigration and multiculturalism, I would feel better if those who are opposed at least FELT that they were being heard for the sake of unity. The concern I have is that those who are against these policies are gathering outside the political sphere and encouraging - let's say - "direct action". I would like to see that poll also. I also find it hard to understand the immigration issue. I live in Toronto which is the prime area impacted - for good and bad - by increased immigration. Those who have lived here the longest see the highest impact in declining quality of government services, such as transit, however are paid back by soaring property values. This is a boon to baby boomers who didn't save adequately for retirement, theoretically. 4.) I don't know if "can't" is applicable. I find it difficult, though, to see a difference between attitudes in, say, New York or San Francisco and Toronto despite the federal governments having a markedly different approach. So maybe they CAN or CAN'T engineer attitudes but I think it's better to look at how much influence they have. "Engineer" implies that they pretty much have control over outcomes and that is not the case. If you think government can simply engineer attitudes then there are implications elsewhere to policy. 5.) What transnational institutions ? "no global democracy means globalization is a threat to democracy" how ? How is global trade and whatever these institutions are, a threat ? 6.) I need objective evidence from a credible source here. Maybe you mean that, as the left has said for decades, multinationals such as the National Fruit Company have undermined governments in poorer countries to exploit workers. That's well documented but precedes the Mulroney/Reagan/Thatcher era of global trade. 7.) Ok, so it worked for 'the west'. Post world-war-II. I didn't doubt that. But there are a few factors that built upon democracy that you are ignoring, such as a few world wars just ending (?) and relatively left-leaning governments who were much more friendly towards labour. 8.) Right, but what about those pet policies ? Wouldn't it be easier for you to reform the NDP than the Conservatives ? You seem closer to them since anti-multinationalism is in your DNA.
  11. betsy

    It's Irrational To be An Atheist

    Agnostic. Theist.
  12. August1991

    The Kryptonite of Justin Trudeau

    Here's an example of Trudeau Snr (retired at the time) smartly saying "No" in English, while knowing full well that his words would be translated. Trust me, he was speaking in both French and English when he said these words. He understood this country:
  13. Once upon a time, this forum was a simple way for people in Canada to stop by and chat about politics - maybe sports/movies. Now, it's not. The current forum software has too many inserts/links/likes/submits/checks/threads/personal info/options/font styles/replies/media boxes. Let's be honest: mapleleafweb amounts to several hundred Canadians discussing politics - and a few thousand lurkers from around the world. In this crazy world, it's a website of civility. ===== Greg, Lethbridge, please return this forum to the way it once was. I prefer the older forum software. Keep It Simple Stupid = KISS
  14. Scott Mayers

    Bernier criticizes Trudeau's "extreme multiculturalism"

    If Bernier were instead able to point out THAT the Trudeau government (from Pierre's) originally set the Constitution to bias specific historical cultures and NOT all cultures, he may have a better stance because only arguing degree makes it worse for the Conservatives because of their tendency to 'mono-' cultures. Why would the majority of culture-favoring people want a side that only favors a smaller subset of cultures than a larger one? Not to offend any specific groups, the reality is that ANY wealth will tend towards more mono-cultural systems when it is based in more pure capitalistic means. For the same reason, there will always be some culture on the economic bottom that tends to get concentrated in population. These are due to the fact that humans are limited to FAVOR what is more closely related to them by family links, not merely because of racist beliefs. To avoid bias, Bernier would require not pointing to 'extreme' Multiculturalism, but to ANY Culturalism (laws made for/against specific cultures).
  15. Scott Mayers

    Bernier criticizes Trudeau's "extreme multiculturalism"

    You don't get what I'm saying. First, "Multiculturalism" is not "multiculturalism". It is a unique Canadian trademarked version that utilizes the fact that even favoring TWO or THREE cultures is technically, "multicultural" (intended common interpretation that means one favors many cultures diversely). But in fact, it is no different than MONOCULTURALISM when it actually means strictly a select few cultures, not ALL. It is also "forced" in that it is constituted of all people here in Canada without concern about the actual significant minority, the individual. When you guys who favor Mono-culturalism through your usual W.A.S.P. stereotype, you don't help us by arguing against Trudeau for the same reason that the White Supremacists of a rally against taking down historical statues takes the dominant notice: you STEAL the attention of the problem by negating DEGREE of cultural problems when it is actually ANY LAWS that favor culture or religion that is the problem. As such, you ruin it for us all when we want to argue with a logical stance. No one pays attention to anyone but the extremes. And you guys represent not ANTI-Cultural lawmaking but MONO-cultural lawmaking. As such, you are WORSE if you get in power!!! I'm tired this. The reason the left are acting Segregationist rather than Integrationist is that they don't believe they can beat the means of the hard tactics the right normally uses. As such, they have adopted the tactics OF THE RIGHT by utilizing some of the Machiavellian methods that don't use logic but emotions to appeal. I disagree with the left doing this but find the right already default to this methodology and so disapprove of both. The reality is that we need to attack laws that specify favor nor disfavor to ANY CULTURE OR RELIGION. We need to address the constitution or no matter what occurs, the game is just about who has the stronger emotional impact. And in this case, you will lose because when everyone is all using a 'cultural' Nationalistic stance, the left has MORE 'Nationalist' groups on their side. The only hope we have is if your Conservatives stop using the very Machiavellian tactics that the left are FORCED to use to overrule your own. We don't NEED "cultural" conservation laws, no 'heritage' department, or any form of SPECIFIC internal system that directs what is 'good art' for us versus 'bad art'. This is what it reduces to. Canadian law dictates that we MUST favor specific kinds of art in the guise of universal truth. There is nothing about one's past culture that requires special consideration of laws that discriminate from others. AND....most specifically for those who don't associate with any specific group, we should not have to pay heed to a system that dictates we must fit in with one of a set of 'acceptable cults' based on genetic identity.
  16. Zeitgeist

    Canadians FEAR Trump...Big Time

    Ha ha. Wow, do you really think Canadians could hope for so much? It would be amazing if we had that kind of influence. We're well aware that Americans have to make their own decisions about what works best for them. But sure, we'd be happy to set policy for you if you like. I know you don't want "liberal snowflake" Canadians influencing affairs down there. Don't worry, the U.S. is always right of Canada politically. We understood that a long time ago.
  17. August1991

    Monetization, Stories, CPM

    Marshall McLuhan? Is he a billionaire? ===== I reckon that the world's first trillionaire will be the guy (girl? maybe - 3-sigmas, requires extreme thinking) who figures out how to create a world network.
  18. bush_cheney2004

    Canadians FEAR Trump...Big Time

    Regardless of his positions and policy changes, Doug Ford is no Donald Trump, and attempts to paint him that way failed. It is just one example of the FEAR that some Canadians have for the president of another nation, stoked daily in Canadian media. Yesterday, several U.S. states held primary elections to select party candidates in the November general election, and Canadian media was all over it like the end of Donald Trump was nearer to ending their FEARs and fulfilling their cross border desires (e.g. control of the U.S. House, Senate, Supreme Court appointees, impeachment trial, etc.). I can say with some confidence that Americans do not follow Canadian politics to this extreme or with such angst.
  19. August1991

    The Kryptonite of Justin Trudeau

    According to CNN.... Welcome to the world of a politician who says No. ====== And Justin Trudeau never says No. PS. Michael, note above my quote of Bouchard. Mulroney was amazing at saying "No". Chretien invariably said yes. Harper is hated now - he said "No" without any finesse. Trudeau Snr? He said "No" several times but somehow succeeded.
  20. turningrite

    Bernier criticizes Trudeau's "extreme multiculturalism"

    I'll defer to Bernier here, who maintains that the promotion of tribal division is a political tactic on the part of the Trudeau government. But I think the fact that serious discussion of immigration and multicultural policies is generally not allowed is more a function of an elitist compact between the major mainstream federal parties. The Conservatives are somewhat more open to nibbling around the edges on these things but at the end of the day support large-scale immigration because that's what big business wants. But politics as does nature abhors a vacuum and it's impossible to imagine that the political compact that suppresses debate on immigration and multiculturalism policy can last forever. Maybe Bernier's commentary over the past few days suggests that there's a pent up willingness on the part of some politicians to open Canada's democracy to, well, actual democratic debate and perhaps Ford's concerns about financial implications of supporting the refugee influx will open another front relating to debating the real costs of our immigration and refugee programs.
  21. No, I mean that right now more Canadians agree with each other politically than do people in the U.S. We're not as polarized.
  22. bush_cheney2004

    Bernier criticizes Trudeau's "extreme multiculturalism"

    Such comparisons to the U.S. are routinely expected in this forum, but the numbers on the ground say otherwise....for total population, diversity, and net emigration from Canada to the United States over the past 100 years. Canada has the Clarity Act to test uniformity (e.g. Quebec nationalism)....the U.S. had a civil war.
  23. Zeitgeist

    Canadians FEAR Trump...Big Time

    She needed to go. Wynne and McGuinty accomplished a lot: creating the Greenbelt, phasing out coal, expanding Kindergarten, making university more affordable. I know some of that was expensive, but I think our society has benefitted from it. On the other hand, there was the ORNGE fiasco, ehealth mismanagement, the natural gas plant cancellation penalty. They got quite into identity politics. It's not so much that most people didn't agree with things like the freedom to form gay-straight alliances or other such social movements. It was the fact that government was making such moves the centerpiece and focus of its work. People felt like they were being told how to think and feel about a range of issues. That's not the core role of government. It's tricky, because many of these policies will appeal to or abhor you depending on your position, like your position on abortion in regard to the funding of Planned Parenthood in the U.S. If you're from China or an Eastern European country and you fought your way to come to Canada, then you're told that more content is being added to the sex ed curriculum or that transgender procedures may be funded out of your tax dollars, you might wonder what the advantage was of coming here. Again, it's not necessarily because you don't support free surgery for sex change operations or that you don't want a revised sex ed curriculum. Maybe it's that you don't feel government should be in the business of some of these things. It's hard, because, depending on where you stand, these could all be virtuous social justice issues that need to be addressed by government. I think for the Liberals it was just too much focus on special interests and pet projects for too long. My main concern with Ford is that I'm not yet convinced that he has the team to effectively improve Ontario's economy, and not just in a superficial way of putting a few extra bucks in our pockets through tax cuts. He should have kept cap and trade for sure. It's necessary to force a cut to emissions. I prefer cap and trade to a carbon tax. Anyway, not really the subject of this thread.
  24. turningrite

    Bernier criticizes Trudeau's "extreme multiculturalism"

    1.) Social engineering is a widely understood concept. If you think government can't "engineer" social change, you're dreaming in color. 2.) Globalism involves more than trade. It involves transnational institutions that erode the concept of state-based democracy. And, of course, there's no global democracy, so globalization is a threat to democracy in the limited portion of the world where it currently exists. Institutional globalization is the antithesis of democracy and perhaps the biggest threat to democracy since the Enlightenment. 3.) See preceding point. It's pretty clearly not a conspiracy theory. Searching the issue online and you'll find many scholarly analyses, many of them explaining the threat and others pointing to the reforms necessary to ameliorate the inherent threats globalization pose to democracy. 4.) Apparently, you're not well versed on economic history. The post WWII prosperity in the West, from 1945-73 is broadly understood as the "Golden Age of Capitalism" is widely understood and acknowledged. Without wanting to citing any of the individual academic analyses, maybe you can just read the Wikipedia entry on the topic, which references many of the relevant analyses: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post–World_War_II_economic_expansion 5.) I think the NDP has become pointless. The multinationals must, of course, be controlled, and particularly so in order to counter their tendency to promote monopoly. What does the modern NDP stand for? Hmmmm....
  25. bush_cheney2004

    Saudi Arabia expells Canadian ambassador

    My preference is irrelevant, as were the preferences of impacted Canadians it would seem. Irrespective of Freeland's grandstanding using American social media (an issue already being pursued via more discrete back channels), it was refreshing to see another sovereign nation blow that patented brand of Canadian "human rights" smugness right back into her political face.
  26. bush_cheney2004

    Canadians FEAR Trump...Big Time

    Agreed, but that did not stop Kathleen Wynne and others in Canadian media from trying to stoke FEARs of Donald Trump during the election to gain political advantage. But as you stated, Wynne was so uniformly hated in Ontario, it didn't matter. Here she is desperately trying to draw the Ford/Trump parallel: http://www.cbc.ca/player/play/1213779523581
  27. Michael Hardner

    Saudi Arabia expells Canadian ambassador

    Nope, it's the mantra of the brainwashed: Whatever my guy does is awesome and whatever the other guy does is retarded. Seriously, it's a point of view for hero worshippers only.
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