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Everything posted by marcus

  1. Dirtying our planet aside, the oilsands are bad business. Cut your losses and run. Just let it go already. Stop trying to sell low grade oil to foreign countries, in a market where it's difficult to have a margin. Is it not worth it to have our own refineries and use our resources for ourselves? Why does no one talk about refining our own oil and using it in our own country, instead of having them shipped from all over the world?
  2. When did they sell out? When were they any different than now?
  3. The PPC was a vanity project by Maxime. How is the CPC selling out? If you go back and look at Mulroney's party and its policies, you'll see that they were actually closer to the centre than the current CPC party. They actually took steps to protect and conserve the environment. Mulroney led the way in the world with policies to heal the ozone layer, from damage caused by aerosol sprays and coolants. The fear being displayed by some conservatives right now has nothing to do with changes in the policies of the CPC, because their policies have not changed much. Those who are mad at the CPC are mad because the party refuses to pull a suicidal act, like Bernier did, to appease a loud minority, by denouncing immigration and immigrants.
  4. It's neither Trudeau or Kenny. It's the price of oil. Especially tar sand oil. What Alberta needs to do is to invest in and build a refinery. I don't understand why they don't do that. Why not sell our own fuel in Canada, instead of having them shipped over from South America, Africa and Saudi Arabia.
  5. So much noise from a loud minority and at the end, a major failure. It just goes to show that this kind of "populism" has very little support in Canada. I would be surprised if the PPC or Maxime Bernier, who couldn't even win in his own riding, will try to make any comebacks. Good riddance.
  6. We are in agreement. I think the first step in moving towards the right direction is to acknowledge and come to a consus on the enormity of the problem and agree that we need to make radical changes. We seem to still be trying to convince a loud minority and some people in power that climate change is happening. Although, the tone has now shifted from many of these loud minorities from "it's not happening" to "humans are not the cause" or "there is nothing we can do". We're wasting too much time trying to convince that group and this is a big problem. I agree that our policies should be well thought out and efficient.
  7. A car is in need of a few parts to be fixed, otherwise it can create more damage to the car in the long run. The owner decides to hold back on the upgrades because of the costs involved. A few months later, the car breaks down and now the engine needs to be replaced and the car owner now must pay thousands of dollars more than what he had to pay before. This is what is in front of us when it comes to climate change. What the policies are going to be and whether governments or companies want to take advantage of the situation in a negative way is a different question and discussion. The potential for bad policy should not stop us from realizing the urgent problem and finding an immediate solution. We cannot continue with business as usual.
  8. I don't understand you name dropping Nazis and Bolshies. I find your comparisons and analogies to try to defame a movement to have a better and cleaner world to be pure b.s. Your resistance to improving humanity, evolving our system is so sad to witness. I reject your defeatist shoulder shrug attitude. We have been able to reverse man-made disasters in the past. Remember the ozone layer? The ozone layer is showing signs of continuing recovery from man-made damage and is likely to heal fully by 2060, new evidence shows. The measures taken to repair the damage will also have an important beneficial effect on climate change, as some of the gases that caused the ozone layer to thin and in places disappear also contribute to warming the atmosphere. Phasing them out could avoid as much as 0.5C (0.9F) of warming this century. Recovery from the holes and thinning caused by aerosol chemicals has progressed at a rate of about 1% to 3% a decade since 2000, meaning the ozone layer over the northern hemisphere and mid-latitudes should heal completely by the 2030s, if current rates are sustained.
  9. Economic depressions are economical and they usually occur due to bad economic decisions, where we have a chance to end it. The climate discussion is about a non-reversal timeline. The world will not end in a decade and I haven't heard May say that it will (perhaps you need to pay attention to what is being said, instead of creating a false narrative), but according to overwhelming research, there is a window (this window/timeline is different according to various research) we have to dramatically decrease the amount of CO2 we're releasing into the air in order to not hit the tipping point. This tipping point is when changing how we do things will not stop the climate disasters, which will result in economical disasters., that are already happening, and will only increase in numbers and ferociousness.
  10. Of course DoP. Scared little boys have that type of logic. Mentally ill and marginalized individuals' religion who commit a crime only matters when they are Muslim. Here is a good article for scared little boys and everyone, in general: The random Muslim scare story generator: separating fact from fiction Halal meat is on every menu; sharia law is taking over; the niqab is undermining the nation. Ever noticed how often the same old stories keep appearing about Muslims in Britain? Here's the truth about these and other media myths.
  11. I don't accept your surrender to the illogical fear you have created in your head.
  12. Amazing way of thinking taxme! 1.5 billion people are what you are describing, because they are Muslim. My 6 year old seems to have a more advanced and logical way of thinking about people.
  13. I have a thing for libertarianism. I agree with the concept and I understand how the government shouldn't get into people's business. What the issue here is that the effects of continuing business as usual, there is going to be negative consequences. In fact, we are already seeing the consequences. When the actions of any industry is directly causing harm to people or their land, then the government must step in to stop them. It can be argued that the feds should stay out of this and instead the provincial or municipalities should be in charge of protecting its people. Re: Tobacco vs Fossil fuel industry I compared the two industries to demonstrate how the lobby groups manufacture consent and resist the science behind the findings. Anyway, what are you talking about in regards to "the tobacco industry was right"? You mean smoking does not cause the death of over 7 million people a year? That it does not costs over $300 billion dollars a year to the economy just in the United States?
  14. I'll give you that you're right. But you're also wrong. Depends on who you ask. It's your every right to feel threatened by a girl who is worried about the environmental disaster that is unfolding in front of us. It's your right to declare that she is the one who will hold back environmentalism. I rather focus on what I see is the obvious problem; The old industries who have accumulated a lot of money and power and who want to milk every last bit of the system that brings them wealth at the expense of others. There used to be a time when the tobacco lobby groups pulled the same shit the fossil industry has been pulling. From all out 'denial', to 'we can't do anything about it'. "In some ways, the face of climate denial in political rhetoric has shifted," said Matto Mildenberger, a Canadian climate policy researcher currently working at the University of California, Santa Barbara. "It tends to be much more either, 'We can't do anything about it' or 'It's not important enough to do right away.'" The researchers have also found evidence that climate misinformation is affecting public opinion about the nature of climate change and the efficacy of solutions. Link
  15. You seem to share a characteristic of an extremist. You have the same "you're either with us or against us" approach to discussions. Your threat to accept your view of who people are and how things work is unappealing. You, me, someone else may have a different view as to who the 'extremists' are and who the 'real environmentalists' are.
  16. Your aggressive characterization and one-dimensional view of people kills conversations.
  17. I start with myself and my family, then my community and so on. Reduce waste, drive less, bike more and take the train.
  18. Why are you so stuck on Al Gore? Guess what! The Arctic ice sheet IS MELTING at a record pace. It is REALLY happening. I am confused as to where you sit on the climate denial spectrum. Are you on the: Climate change is not happening Team, or; Climate change is happening but humans have nothing to do with it Team
  19. In your opinion, who will the smart progressives vote for? Or are there any smart progressives?
  20. Why is there such resistance to simple logic? It's sad watching the change in response to climate change deniers. 1) "Nope! It's not happening!" 2) "Okay. It's happening, but it's not caused by humans! It's a natural occurrence." Don't you people get sick of yourselves and the goal post you keep moving? Remember this guy?
  21. I'm not a fan of Trudeau and will not vote for his party. I will continue to enjoy pointing out your selective outrage. You are all such hacks.
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