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  1. This disease will become endemic. With a critical level of people getting vaccinated, more people may get the disease and not even know it, experience no symptoms or mild symptoms. The reason COVID-19 is a Global pandemic is that, where it grabs a foothold, we've seen over and over again an appreciable portion of the population get critically sick. It's happening, in a bad way, right now in India. As the vaccine gets to more people we'll see less of this.
  2. I will say that Hamilton is a more geographically diverse region. There are smaller, more suburban and rural communities that are part of the municipality of Hamilton. Today 55% of new cases came from either Toronto or Peel.
  3. Health Canada approves Pfizer for children 12+. Should children be given first shots before many get their second shots? 

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    2. Boges

      Boges

      Getting 80-90% with 60-90% protection before July doesn't sound desperate to me. 

    3. bush_cheney2004

      bush_cheney2004

      Then why are Canadians going to the U.S. for covid vaccines ?

    4. Boges

      Boges

      You just keep making the same point. I've conceded it. The US has ensured their supply. Being the #1 economy in the world gets you that. 

       

  4. As of today, all 18+ residents of the Region of Peel, who have the highest per capital infection rate in the Province can book a vaccination through the Online Portal. I guess this will show if Vaccine Hesitancy is an issue here, like it is in the US.
  5. Biden's goal of 70% first-dose vaccination by July 4th is an admission that demand for vaccination will plummet. 

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    2. Shady

      Shady

      Yes, as cases continue to decline rapidly, many will forgo the vaccine for now.  Also, politicians like to set goals the can easily meet, and then claim success.  This is really a non-story.

    3. bush_cheney2004

      bush_cheney2004

      "Canada probably won't reach herd immunity against COVID-19 anytime soon" (if ever)....no kidding.

      https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/herd-immunity-threshold-canada-covid-1.6013685

    4. Boges

      Boges

      From your citation (which is just an opinion column): 

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      In the United States, vaccine hesitancy is increasingly seen as a major and perhaps permanent barrier to herd immunity. The vaccine rollout south of the border got off to a fast start but has been slowing as time goes on and the supply of doses starts to outpace demand.

       

  6. The parameters are set through the Web portal. If you live in a Hotspot Postal Code, you can make an appointment. As May goes on, the people who can book through the portal expands until all adults can book at the end of May.
  7. Not if they really wanted one. BTW with variants, it seems, younger people are just as "vulnerable". Supply has been a big issue. I got a vaccine because I was on top of it as soon as I was able.
  8. Well it wasn't in this thread. I've seen no evidence of any appreciable vaccine hesitancy in Ontario. People in the Hot Spots are lining up at Community Centres to get shots.
  9. Mind doing so again? It's not vaccines that are causing the spread. There are plenty of cultural issues, but I have seen no statistics that say they don't want vaccines.
  10. Multiple Studies: COVID-19 vaccines are very effective after the first dose. 

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/covid-19-vaccine-first-dose-protection-canada-1.6009822

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    2. OftenWrong

      OftenWrong

      That's probably why I hear a lot of people are saying they aren't going to bother getting the second dose. Oh well.

    3. Boges

      Boges

      Because of the influx of vaccines we're seeing now, the chances people will have to wait four months is unlikely. 

      If/when we get another Shipment of AZ, it should go 100% to provide second doses, as their reliability isn't as solid as Pfizer. 

    4. OftenWrong

      OftenWrong

      Let's hope you're right. Vaccinate the masses as quickly as possible, so that the herd is immune.

      Then I can get back to my normal life.

  11. I don't think people in those area codes are getting the disease because they refuse to get the vaccines. All adults in Hot Spots can only start booking appointments today. Otherwise they had to wait inline at pop-up clinics.
  12. You mean Anti-Vax rednecks?
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    3. Shady

      Shady

      Regardless, it doesn’t matter if herd immunity is achieved in the fall vs late spring.  Enough people will have been vaccinated or have immunity from being previously infected to result in low level case rates and even lower level death and hospitalization.  This story is just more panic porn.

    4. Boges

      Boges

      But are enough people going to get vaccinated? Seems the rate is levelling off in the US. 

      I think the variants will play a factor in how effective previous infections protects one. 

      Up until recently it was agreed upon that most young people will handle COVID-19 rather well, in most cases. Variants have blown that theory out of the water. 

  13. Peel, York and Toronto regularly record 50%+ of the daily cases and Hospitals in those regions, are the ones being buried. On Friday, Dofo announced that for the next 2 weeks, 50% of the vaccine supply will go to these "hot spots" Ontario also announced, yesterday, that adults 18+ will be able to book a vaccine through the Web portal. Ontario will see an influx of Pfizer and Moderna in the coming month. They'll also lower the age limit for the Rest of the Province to book an appointment by a decade per week. I think it's 50+ this week, 40+ the week after, 30+ the week a
  14. Ontario pledges to allow all adults to be able to book a COVID-19 vaccine appointment by the 3rd week of May. 

    Herd Immunity by Canada Day is likely. 

    1. Boges

      Boges

      2-3 million doses expected each week in May. 3 million plus expected in June. 

  15. Study: Transmission of COVID-19 is half as likely with one-dose of the vaccine. https://www.bbc.com/news/health-56904993

    1. Shady

      Shady

      One dose probably makes milder symptoms as well.

    2. Boges

      Boges

      It certainly does. But this is the first study it indicate you're less likely to transmit the virus even with only dose. 

      More evidence that getting as many people the first dose is more important than getting people fully vaccinated. 

    3. bush_cheney2004

      bush_cheney2004

      More evidence of excuses for Trudeau's epic vaccine failure.

  16. I wonder if people in Germany, Spain, Italy and France are freaking out that Canada is beating them in vaccination. 

    1. Argus

      Argus

      Since we're not... no.

      Canada is only giving one dose four months apart. No one in the world is waiting four months for a second dose and there's little science behind that decision. 

    2. Boges

      Boges

      Getting the most number of people some protection is better than getting half that number full protection. 

    3. Boges
  17. This is actually going to be a big problem in the US. They have a sufficient supply of vaccines but still haven't reached Herd Immunity because people don't want to get them. If it's true that people in Hot Zones are largely spreading this through workplaces, you can easily see vaccination being a requirement for employment.
  18. I hope you ironically misspelled brain. You also don't live in a Hotspot, AFAIK. DoFo said 80% of the cases are coming from 20% of Province. A majority of my family and friends live in Hot Spots. I'm kind of avoiding them like the "literal" plague right now.
  19. There have been outbreaks at Grocery stores. You don't have stats and nor do I to defend if they're safe or not. I think it depends on where the Grocery Store is located TBH. This is way more a socio-economic crisis.
  20. Those aren't the people we're talking about. We're talking about people who have been working the entire pandemic and who can't go home and get paid if they're sick.
  21. I actually don't think so anymore. Obviously that's always been an issue. But we are seeing lots of spread at workplaces now. And the infected people go home and infect their families. The demographics of these regions indicate that they live in multi-generational homes.
  22. And the absence of it is the #1 reason for the virus spread we're seeing right now. If you're an hourly worker that only gets paid when they clock in, getting COVID-19 could mean the difference between paying bills or not. These are the people that can't go on CERB either. They work in an "essential" job. Any workplace has a screen process for when workers should and shouldn't come to work. But it's self policing. We've created an environment where you have to get COVID-19 tested if you have a Cold. So yeah you'd have to get tested, and you should be compensated for it if you
  23. I think people have to be willfully ignorant of the demographics of Ontario to know where the HotSpots are. We don't need Postal Codes to imagine where these places are. GOOD NEWS! Tomorrow people 40+ can get Astrazenca. Being 40+ I'll try to get one. If only to not have to worry about seeing family and friends anymore.
  24. The only nations of any size or influence that have higher rates of vaccinations than Canada is Chile, the UK and the UK. If you discount people 16+ who won't be eligible for the vaccine, Canada's 1st dose vaccination is almost 30%. 

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    2. bush_cheney2004

      bush_cheney2004

      16+ includes some minors/children and adults too.   Ontario just opened up vaccinations for 40+, not 16+...because there are not enough vaccines available in Canada.   

    3. Boges

      Boges

      Yes but Health Canada has not approved any vaccine for people 18+.

      So people 18+ aren't getting it because it's not approved for them. Not because there isn't supply. So when considering vaccination rate of those eligible would be a more accurate metric. 

      Sort of like when Biden said he wants all people 18+ to be able to book a vaccine if they want it. 

    4. bush_cheney2004

      bush_cheney2004

      Provinces decide what ages to vaccinate based on approved vaccines...Canada just doesn't have enough doses...even going so far as to stagger 2nd doses way beyond the manufacturers tested/approved interval.   Playing games with numbers will not change Canada's situation and vaccine shortage.

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