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i also don't understand the mentality that goes into that argument - that we're not allowed to say anything if it happened in our past. That is BS. Just because you did something wrong in the past doesn't mean you can't advocate against it now. It doesn't make you a hypocrite. All it does is invalidate the current mindset. People are supposed to GROW. Civilizations are supposed to GROW. GROWTH as a concept. Embrace it.

"Neither matriarchy nor patriarchy alone can ever rule the world well, but when these two join forces, then the affairs of the world will be run as wisely as those of the gods. Then the lords of compassion will join with the lords of reason in molding the destiny of the universe." ~~ Manly P. Hall

I am highly skeptical that the woman who was a graphic designer from Alberta and left Canada in 2014 to be an obedient ISIS wife and claims she had never heard of ISIS and knew nothing about them.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/citizens-of-the-dying-caliphate-recount-life-under-isis/vi-BBTltR1?ocid=spartandhp Watched this video interview with 2 Canadian women who went to Syria for ISIS and now want to come back. When asked if they regret doing what they did, they both respond No. One says she doesn't regret it because she has her beautiful children and the other doesn't regret because she is an obedient wife.

I've never lived next door to people who were continually trying to kill me, so I find it difficult to judge Israel.

It's not lies to advance a political agenda. If anyone has an agenda it's the Hamas government (which is a terrorist organization). And they don't hide their agenda: Article 22 states that the French revolution, the Russian revolution, colonialism and both world wars were created by the Zionists or forces supportive of Zionism: Article 32 of the Covenant refers to an antisemitic forgery, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion: Statements by Hamas members and clerics to an Arab audience In 2008, Imam Yousif al-Zahar of Hamas said in his sermon at the Katib Wilayat mosque in Gaza that "Jews are a people who cannot be trusted. They have been traitors to all agreements. Go back to history. Their fate is their vanishing."[175][330] Another Hamas legislator and imam, Sheik Yunus al-Astal, discussed a Koranic verse suggesting that "suffering by fire is the Jews' destiny in this world and the next." He concluded "Therefore we are sure that the Holocaust is still to come upon the Jews."[175][330] Following the rededication of the Hurva Synagogue in Jerusalem in March 2010, senior Hamas figure al-Zahar called on Palestinians everywhere to observe five minutes of silence "for Israel's disappearance and to identify with Jerusalem and the al-Aqsa mosque". He further stated that "Wherever you have been you've been sent to your destruction. You've killed and murdered your prophets and you have always dealt in loan-sharking and destruction. You've made a deal with the devil and with destruction itself – just like your synagogue."[331][332] On August 10, 2012, Ahmad Bahr, Deputy Speaker of the Hamas Parliament, stated in a sermon that aired on Al-Aqsa TV: In an interview with Al-Aqsa TV on September 12, 2012, Marwan Abu Ras, a Hamas MP, who is also a member of the International Union of Muslim Scholars, stated (as translated by MEMRI): On December 26, 2012, Senior Hamas official and Jerusalem bureau chief Ahmed Abu Haliba, called on "all Palestinian factions to resume suicide attacks ... deep inside the Zionist enemy" and said that "we must renew the resistance to occupation in any possible way, above all through armed resistance." Abu Haliba suggested the use of suicide bombings as a response to Israel's plans to build housing units in East Jerusalem and the West Bank.[338] In an interview on Lebanese television on July 28, 2014, Hamas spokesman Osama Hamdan repeated the blood libel myth: Statements by Hamas members and clerics to an international audience In an interview with CBS This Morning on July 27, 2014, Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal stated: On January 8, 2012, during a visit to Tunis, Gazan Hamas PM Ismail Haniyeh told The Associated Press on that he disagrees with the anti-Semitic slogans. "We are not against the Jews because they are Jews. Our problem is with those occupying the land of Palestine," he said. "There are Jews all over the world, but Hamas does not target them."[341] In response to a statement by Palestinian Authority leader Mahmoud Abbas that Hamas preferred non-violent means and had agreed to adopt "peaceful resistance," Hamas contradicted Abbas. According to Hamas spokesman Sami Abu-Zuhri, "We had agreed to give popular resistance precedence in the West Bank, but this does not come at the expense of armed resistance."[342] In May 2009, senior Hamas MP Sayed Abu Musameh said, "in our culture, we respect every foreigner, especially Jews and Christians, but we are against Zionists, not as nationalists but as fascists and racists."[343] In the same interview, he also said, "I hate all kinds of weapons. I dream of seeing every weapon from the atomic bomb to small guns banned everywhere." In January 2009, Gazan Hamas Health Minister Basim Naim published a letter in The Guardian, stating that Hamas has no quarrel with Jewish people, only with the actions of Israel.[344] In October 1994, in a response to Isreael's crackdown on Hamas militants following a suicide bombing on a Tel Aviv bus, Hamas promised retaliation: "Rabin must know that Hamas loves death more than Rabin and his soldiers love life."[345] Statements on the Holocaust Hamas has been explicit in its Holocaust denial. In reaction to the Stockholm conference on the Jewish Holocaust, held in late January 2000, Hamas issued a press release that it published on its official website, containing the following statements from a senior leader: In August 2003, senior Hamas official Dr Abd Al-Aziz Al-Rantisi wrote in the Hamas newspaper Al-Risala that the Zionists encouraged murder of Jews by the Nazis with the aim of forcing them to immigrate to Palestine.[347] In 2005, Khaled Mashal called Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's December 14, 2005 statements on the Holocaust that Europeans had "created a myth in the name of Holocaust"[348]) as "courageous".[349] Later in 2008, Basim Naim, the minister of health in the Hamas-led Palestinian Authority government in Gaza countered holocaust denial, and said "it should be made clear that neither Hamas nor the Palestinian government in Gaza denies the Nazi Holocaust. The Holocaust was not only a crime against humanity but one of the most abhorrent crimes in modern history. We condemn it as we condemn every abuse of humanity and all forms of discrimination on the basis of religion, race, gender or nationality."[350] In an open letter to Gaza Strip UNRWA chief John Ging published August 20, 2009, the movement's Popular Committees for Refugees called the Holocaust "a lie invented by the Zionists," adding that the group refused to let Gazan children study it.[351] Hamas leader Younis al-Astal continued by saying that having the Holocaust included in the UNRWA curriculum for Gaza students amounted to "marketing a lie and spreading it". Al-Astal continued "I do not exaggerate when I say this issue is a war crime, because of how it serves the Zionist colonizers and deals with their hypocrisy and lies."[352][353] In February 2011, Hamas voiced opposition to UNRWA's teaching of the Holocaust in Gaza. According to Hamas, "Holocaust studies in refugee camps is a contemptible plot and serves the Zionist entity with a goal of creating a reality and telling stories in order to justify acts of slaughter against the Palestinian people."[354][355] In July 2012, Fawzi Barhoum, a Hamas spokesman, denounced a visit by Ziad al-Bandak, an adviser to Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, to the Auschwitz death camp, saying it was "unjustified" and "unhelpful" and only served the "Zionist occupation" while coming "at the expense of a real Palestinian tragedy". He also called the Holocaust an "alleged tragedy" and "exaggerated".[356][357][358][359] In October 2012, Hamas said that they were opposed to teaching about the Holocaust in Gaza Strip schools run by the UN Relief and Works Agency. The Refugee Affairs Department of Hamas said that teaching the Holocaust was a "crime against the issue of the refugees that is aimed at canceling their right of return"

Well if my choice was like their's - live as a prisoner and possession under a giant sheet of cloth OR die - I would "enjoy" it, too.

I'm sure Saudi Arabia is a lovely place to visit. As a woman, I would not want to live there. It's one thing for men to take over all the power positions in society, but it's entirely another to despise women and inflict so much brutality and degradation on them. What sane species treats half of its members - the half who give birth to the very species - with such contempt and injustice? Women living as prisoners, unable to leave the house unless under the guardianship of a male. They have no role in determining their own lives - look at the pictures of the Women's Conference and Gender Equality awards - all men. They are nothing more than a commodity, property of men, to do with as they please. I'd rather live here in the frozen tundra and have the freedoms that women have in Canada, than in a beautiful, rich country that treats women like a sub-species. And just because some women "like" being treated that way - still does not make it right.

Women's rights in Western society have been hard won. At the time, there were no other nations that could "set the example", so to say. That's not the case today - Islamic societies can see how women are treated in Western societies (which you are correct - still has some work to do) and still insist on women having an inferior role in society. That's what I don't understand. I think part of the issue is that with Islamic extremism taking the front stage and purporting to represent Islam - it skews the scale of what is considered extreme or moderate. Now, as long as Muslims aren't killing each other or driving trucks into crowds - we consider them "moderate" when the reality is, they are far from moderate in many of their beliefs. I don't think it's about feeling smug......The issue for me is that it is the Saudi Arabian version of Islam that is being promoted and funded in mosques and Islamic schools all over the world. To think that this is not affecting Muslims all over the world is to ignore the power that religious beliefs have over people. I don't think Muslims in Western countries are being radicalized so much because they don't fit in or because of Western influences in Islamic countries. They are being radicalized because we are allowing the Saudi version of Islam to reign. And Muslims themselves are allowing it, as well. Why are we doing this? I may be an ape but I know better than to eat a banana in front of men.

Well, the new Saudi guy on here has assured us that they are treated better than Western women, so......

Not sure about the evolving.....This picture was was from a Saudi Arabian conference on women in 2012: https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/06/28/saudi-arabian-womens-conference-picture_n_3515062.html 15 countries - not a woman in sight.

Beating or raping your wife is also NOT applauded by the Canadian community.

The planes sort of indicate that it was a pretty serious terrorist plot. I doubt the teenage boy arrested was the mastermind.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4888474/rcmp-kingston-national-security-arrests-raids/ Syrian refugees who entered Canada in 2016. There is a weird part:

Yes, I have an odd sense of humour. I think the book you're thinking of is Night Probe. Ya, it was a gooder. Sahara was good too. And then the movie.