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  1. Improved medical technology and advances in agriculture are of course the result of 14,000 years of global warming. This is why you are sitting in a warm home, with a fridge full of food in front of our computer, instead of chasing some game animal through the snow, hoping you don't freeze or starve before the days get long.
  2. Sadly we have become a nation that no longer has hope for the future, but looks to it with despair. We are no longer nation builders, but are shutting our economies down. We don't have a plan for making our world better, because we are convinced by others that all we are doing is destructive and wrong. It is time that we had a vision of where we want to get to, and start moving in that direction. Not all nutjobs are religious, many of them are running around crying "the sky is falling" and trying to interfere with those that are working to make things better. It is time to stop being so negative, diminishing our world and making it smaller, and start making it bigger, better place. It is time that living life became more important than hiding from it, time to value hope over fear, time to work for what we want instead of hiding from what we don't want. You may think that this is wrong, and there are many that would agree with you.
  3. Rapid population growth is a result of the last hundred yeas being the most favorable century climate wise in the last 125,000 years. We will be within a couple of degrees of that for a long time to come. That is a long ways from bring a disaster, and is in fact very favorable place to be. If we had a thermostat, we might like to turn it back one or two degrees, and there are people working on that. You don't see enough progress, but I see momentum, and we are picking up speed. Despair if you like, I see a bright future. Of course I am wrong a lot.
  4. Of course if you expect the governments to solve this problem you will be disappointed. The problem will be solved when it becomes profitable to do so. Carbon credits are one way that the government can actually help. It could make algae carbon capture profitable. The technology is improving, products are being produced, and carbon credits could make it viable. It will probably dawn on someone that fresh water pipelines could turn the Australian outback into productive farmland and make many people a lot of money. The same could be true of large parts of the U.S. southwest. Farming seaweed, and turning it into fertilizer could help the oceans, and improve our agricultural soil. Is it commercially viable? With carbon credits it might be. In the mean time if the globe warms by a degree or two, the human race will probably survive that.
  5. I think that the worst one is the next one. Of course we have been working on a solution only since there has been a consensus that there is a problem. We have been creating a problem longer that working at solving it. If you think that we are not making progress, I have to disagree. In the mean time. If you are looking for a perfect world you will be disappointed, if you believe that we the grizzly demise or the human race is imminent. I don't see that either, I think that the reality falls somewhere in between. I have faith in the people who are working on making on making the world a better place, and don't have much time for the doomsayers.
  6. So far there has been no culling. Our warmer climate has seen the greatest increase in human population ever. Is the current warming of the planet a disaster, no it is not. The real climate disasters are Ordovician-silurian Extinction: 440 million years ago. Devonian Extinction: 365 million years ago. Permian-triassic Extinction: 250 million years ago. Triassic-jurassic Extinction: 210 million years ago. Cretaceous-tertiary Extinction: 65 Million Years Ago. These resulted in nuclear winters, the teal climate disasters. We are actually in a very good climate right now. I live in south west B.C. and shoveled a lot of snow growing up, now not so much. Would the world be a better place with less carbon in the atmosphere and if the seas were less acidic? Probably. Of course our best and brightest are working on solutions. Work is being done on a pipeline across the Sahara Desert, bringing water for agriculture and the planting of millions of trees. Technology is being developed to capture carbon from smoke stacks, and from the air. One promising area is the machines that optimize algae production. The algae can then be used to make bio fuels that replace fossil fuels, and plastics that can be stored in building products, furniture, automobile products, appliances and maybe even products to pave our streets. There are plans to farm seaweed in the oceans shallow waters, taking carbon out, putting oxygen in, and balancing ph levels, and increasing marine populations. our best and brightest are working on solutions, and the Chicken Littles are running around crying "the sky is falling".
  7. Of course that is the point. It took time for people to be aware of the problem, and see the need to address it. That is what is being done now, but it will take time to turn the tide, and longer still for the media to stop their tales of woe. If it sells toothpaste, they will tell their story. Fortunately we have time, and people are working on it.
  8. Green is the colour of the chlorophyll which plants use to convert the sun's light into energy. It is the building block of all life, and gives the green colour to grass and leaves. It is used as symbol of a healthy environment. Religion and covid19 have their own topics elsewhere on the board.
  9. Of course climate change is real. The climate is constantly changing. When I was in school people were afraid of another ice age, because it killed the dinosaurs. It was later discovered that the world was warming, and that became the worst possible outcome, and would be the demise of the human race. The world has been warming for 14,000 years since the last ice age. The warming of the earth has been beneficial for mankind, and has let us advance from hunter gatherers into farmers, and allowed us to make permanent settlements instead of being nomadic people following prey animals. It allowed us to support the scholars, engineers and scientists that have built the society that we enjoy today. We are in the sweet spot now, and the earths population has increased from 7 million at the end of the last ice age to now over 7 billion. There have been problems of course, and our appetite for energy has resulted in the burning of huge amounts of carbon releasing it into the atmosphere speeding up this warming of the earth. In the late 1980s there became a general consensus among the world's scientists that we needed to address the problems that were resulting from this. Many environmentalists took up the torch, and tried to make people aware of this need for change. Many others jumped on the band wagon mostly spreading despair, and trying to make people feel guilty. Others started looking for solutions. Technology was developed to scrub emissions from smoke stacks, carbon capture was developed using chemical means, and the use of algae to take carbon out of the air, and put oxygen back in. Programs of planting trees were supported, and renewable energy was encouraged. Farming seaweed in shallow ocean waters to remove carbon reducing the acidification of the oceans, and increasing sea life was introduced. There is a project (the Trans African Pipeline) to reclaim much of the northern Sahara planting trees, and providing fresh water that will allow the area to grow food to feed the hungry. Man is the only animal capable of making beneficial climate change, and progress toward that goal is progressing. As far as religion is concerned, there are many hundreds of religions, mostly contradictory, meaning that most of them must be wrong. I hope that you have found the true one.
  10. Looks like Justin has come full circle. I graduated high school in 1971, during the tenure of Pierre Elliot Trudeau. He increased the federal debt by 720%, brought in wage and price controls, (which were actually just wage controls) and the war measures act to suspend peoples rights and freedoms. He was the worst prime minister Canada ever had. I didn't suspect that he would raise a son that would surpass all his father's transgressions. I just hope that Justin's kids want to be architects or retailers, and don't carry on the family tradition.
  11. Of course we are the debtors, and have been punished enough. Canadian government debt, also called Canada’s “public debt,” is the liabilities of the government sector. For 2019 (the fiscal year ending 31 March 2020), total financial liabilities or gross debt was $2434 billion ($64,087 per capita) for the consolidated Canadian general government (federal, provincial, territorial, and local governments combined). This corresponds to 105.3% as a ratio of GDP (GDP was $2311 billion). Of the gross debt, $1145 billion or 47% was federal (central) government liabilities (49.6% as a ratio to GDP). Provincial government liabilities comprise most of the remaining liabilities. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_public_debt Canada also had a massive debt after WW2, but gdp was very strong with war production, which switched over to domestic production as our servicemen returned home, got married, started families, and needed to buy everything. This was a time when business was encouraged by the government, not crushed by it. With a federal debt growing by a billion dollars a day, and businesses dropping like flies, it is time to open up the economy, and let business do business. That was before managing the economy was turned over to unelected doctors.
  12. The problem of course is that the government is increasing the money supply by auctioning government securities to service the debt, while reducing the gdp with government restrictions. More money, less to buy equals inflation. More inflation requires higher interest rates increasing debt servicing costs.
  13. It is beyond me how people think that we can continue with restrictions, and we will be okay. Getting to the end of next year will be difficult for many businesses and households, and support programs will continue to drain the coffers of the federal and provincial/territorial governments. The debt levels of federal and provincial/territorial governments will rise sharply in 2020-21 and the three years that follow. Over the medium term, governments will struggle to balance their books, despite relatively low interest rates, while a longer-term perspective suggests that, on aggregate, the situation for provinces and territories is untenable. In its Nov. 30 fiscal update, the federal government tallied up the costs of COVID and the impact on the deficit — which will swell to $382 billion in 2020-21. The provinces and territories, too, have tallied record deficits — $92 billion, on aggregate, we estimate. Taken Together, the fiscal gap will account for roughly 22 per cent of GDP this year. But the pandemic’s effect on the economy will be long-lasting, resulting in ongoing massive deficits for both levels of government. In an upcoming report from the Conference Board of Canada, we assess the longer-term fiscal outlook for Canada and the aggregate provinces and territories. The situation suggests that the finances of governments at both levels will be squeezed for decades to come. Excluding the $70 to $100 billion in additional post-COVID stimulus announced in the federal fiscal update, current spending plans by both levels of government, coupled with a lasting negative hit to revenues, will add copiously to public debt. Over the four fiscal years, 2020-21 to 2023-24, federal and provincial/territorial governments are expected to amass $864 billion in deficits and add $940 billion to the aggregate net debt. This will bring the aggregate net debt as a share of GDP to over 95 per cent. https://ipolitics.ca/2020/12/10/record-high-debt-a-long-term-concern-for-governments-in-canada/ Every month we continue with current policies we add over 30 billion in federal deficit, if you add provincial debts it comes close to 40 billion per month. For some reason people think we can continue to do this for another 8 months until we are told that we can vaccinate everyone. Even if we opened the economy fully now it would take many years to reach even a balanced budget, not a surplus necessary to start paying the debt down. You can't keep spending money you don't have, so the government will need to reduce spending on healthcare education etc..
  14. I will not attempt to prove you wrong, because I don't know that you are wrong. Like I said from the beginning, I have more questions than answers. The answers of course lie in a place I am not yet ready to go. I didn't provide answers to anything, just questions. I didn't present dogma, just information on a scientific study, do with it as you wish. The study of course doesn't try to state that NDE is real, because nothing in science is real unless it has been measured, and to my knowledge NDE never has been measured. Believe what you believe, I am okay with that.
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