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Posts posted by BubberMiley

  1. Seeing the picture of that girl that the police released this evening, I think this event is going to colour the rest of the election campaign. People will be angry--not only angry that a $2B gun control problem obviously did less than nothing towards solving the problem, but angry that there is a likelihood that whoever was responsible will be convicted and, yet, one day be free to go shopping on Yonge St.

    Conservatives will rightfully jump on this issue. I think the other parties would be wise to jump on a strong law-and-order platform quickly. :angry:

  2. I would fall under

    Protestant- 8,654,850

    That doesn't mean I go to church. I provided you with data of people who actually practice religion, not people whose families used to go to church. Former traditions and two bits will buy a phone call. They don't count for much. Canadians have replaced religion with TV and Internet and celebrity worship and drugs and porn. I know you don't like it, but judging from your posts you certainly don't disagree with that.

  3. Oh, and if you don't like the sounds of religioustolerance.org (because I know you can't tolerate the tolerant), how about christianity.ca, which says "By 2000, weekly attendance had hit a low of 21 percent of Canadians, but surveys in 2002 and 2003 by Mr. Bibby, Vision TV, and Allan Gregg's Strategic Counsel pegged weekly attendance at levels ranging from 26 to 30 percent."

    So attendance is on its way up, but that includes all religions. So I would say at least 70-74 percent are not practicing christians. But I would agree with you that the few of you left shouldn't be allowed to form a mini-society.

  4. According to religioustolerance.org, in 1990-91 38% of Canadians go to church regularly, but "the true figures show that only about 20% of Americans and 10% of Canadians actually go to church one or more times a week. Many Americans and Canadians tell pollsters that they have gone to church even though they have not. Whether this happens in other countries, with different cultures, is difficult to predict."

    That puts you solidly in the minority. The majority is blissfully agnostic and secular and not at all self-righteous (OK, a little but not as bad). And we live in a highly successful, equal-as-it-can-be country called Canada (where I wear my Maple Leaf proudly).

  5. BubberMiley. I agree with you mostly. However, the English are not a minority in Quebec: they are the smaller language grouping (of the two major cultures in that PROVINCE. That is the legal position.

    And, Bill 101 is alive and well. The Charter did not enable it to be struck down but allowed it to be continued where it did conflict.

    Not to defend Leafless's obsession with the Charter but this is an example - the only one - where the Charter does allow the minority - French speakers - to impose their will on the majority. In Constitutional Law, it is highly unlikely that Bill 101 would have withstood the Court challenge to its entirety since there was no "Norwithstanding Clause."

    I may be wrong, but didn't Bourassa use the Notwithstanding clause to keep Bill 101 in place back around late 1988?

  6. BubberMiley

    Two examples, sure.


    (2)-Official bilingualism in the federal public service.

    (3)- Religious freedoms in which a certain religion is able to obliterate certain religious customs pertaining to the major religion of the land Christianity.

    (4) Mobilitiy Rights concerning allowing Quebec to disallow the gaining of livelihood pertaining especially to advertising in English in that province.

    (5) Forcing provinces to adhere to minority rights when the other official language does not reciprocate nad has it's own linguistic legislation.

    (1) SSM doesn't take away any of the majority's rights, it just gives rights to a minority. It's doesn't hurt you at all.

    (2) Official bilingualism wasn't based on the idea of minority rights. It was based on the concept of two founding cultures: French and English.

    (3) The only major religion in Canada is secularism. If you're concerned about Christian rights, then you should be fighting for minority rights.

    (4) English is the minority in Quebec, so again you should be fighting for minority rights in that case too. (The charter was the basis for striking down Bill 101.)

    (5) I have no idea what you mean by "when the other official language does not reciprocate"

  7. Canada's traditional religion is dead here. The tradition is over. No one goes to church at all anymore. We worship at the altar of secularism. Christmas is a celebration of consumerism. Get over it, Leafless. You're the minority now so it's time you start fighting for minority religious rights. Time to get in bed with the muslims.

  8. BubberMiley

    You wrote- " If we really want to prevent an influx of pedophiles, we could concentrate on raising the age of consent."

    Oh, you mean paedophiles.

    I really don't think hard core paedophiles care about the age of consent.

    You also wrote- " I don't care what consenting adults do."

    That's part of the problem. Sex and porn is like drugs , some people tend to go on to new sexual adventurers, some include paedophilia.

    Actually paedophile is a british variation on the north american "pedophile" (check the Canadian Oxford). But anyway, who cares?

    I agree that hard-core pedophiles probably will do what they do regardless of the law, and for that they should be locked up for good and I won't complain. I think the point was that having a too-low age of consent might be attractive to pedophiles who don't want to go to jail.

    But good luck on your crusade to ban sex, Leafless. Maybe you'd enjoy Saudi Arabia. Personally, I live in a world where that probably wouldn't work.

  9. I don't think the laws as they existed did much to protect 14-year-olds either. If we really want to prevent an influx of pedophiles, we could concentrate on raising the age of consent. I don't care what consenting adults do, but I agree the age of consent is at least two years too low.

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