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BubberMiley

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  1. So the 1997 and 2000 debates should have just been a Chretien monologue?
  2. They invaded another country to steal their oil against the wishes of the UN security counsel. They also misrepresented their reasons for going. Under international law, this is considered illegal. Even the UN Secretary General said so. I feel bad for the troops there, but I don't support their cause of liberating Iraq's oil fields.
  3. Do you mean clean up government or disassemble government?
  4. Pffftt.. Argus is a lightweight whose main debating points are "Your stoopid."
  5. You can't buy an election. That implies that the vote was tainted. They just stole money that they used towards the election: it could have still gone either way. The reason they won was simply because the right was in total disarray at that point. If you could buy an election, the CPC will surely win this one because Harper is continually bragging about how much cash they have.
  6. The libs got elected democratically and they may very well fall democratically on Jan 23, so they don't qualify either.
  7. If Harper was into forcible suppression of opposition, Belinda would be dead. And yes, he's for privatization, but not under the fascist central government control model.
  8. Okay, looking at our deficit and our employment numbers and our general lack of civil strife, how about extremely well?
  9. I think they can do with their site whatever they want to do with their site. Not wanting to listen to dissenting opinions doesn't make them fascist, but it probably makes their site a little boring--all of them agreeing with one another. The only reason I come to MLW is the wide array of CPCers willing to bicker with me. That's what makes debate interesting.
  10. That's what I was basing my post on. But he won the election fair and square since the illegal invasion, so I guess he has every right to stay in power. Just like Bush.
  11. I guess if you don't know what the labels mean, it makes sense not to use them.
  12. Harper is by no means centre-right. He's about as right wing as they come in Canada, along the lines of David Frum, but calling him a fascist is plain stupid.
  13. He is no such thing. He doesn't believe in strong governmental control of the economy, and has shown no signs of forcible suppression of opposition and is not anti-democratic. This just gets in the way of defining him for what he really is: a neoconservative with some social libertarian views. The Liberal Party fits that definition of fascism better than the CPC, but I wouldn't call them that either.
  14. I was talking about the GOP, "a beacon of conservativism," responsible for crazy deficits, Iraq, Katrina.... In comparison, Canada is doing very well under the Libs.
  15. I don't have evidence. That's why I qualified it with "I think." I think Harper believes strongly in what he believes in. He was willing to help found a political party to advance his beliefs, so I don't think he's willing to go soft on them now. I also believe the Quebec wing and the Atlantic wing and the Manitoba wing of the CPC are made up largely of PC supporters who are much more moderate. I have no evidence of a civil war, but there are clearly two sides to this party (with Stronach's defection giving ample evidence of that), and the climate is ripe for conflict.
  16. Again, I'm not a Liberal (and we really need to consolidate this discussion under one thread). My point was, Wilber seems to think that, just because neocons invaded Iraq, that is what defines them. I'm not bitter, just stating facts again. GO NDP.
  17. I'm not a Liberal. (I need to get that tattoed on my forehead). There was a large number of anybody-but-Harper people who voted for Stronach. They thought his neocon principles were too extreme. Where are they now? They are being appeased by people like you who will do anything to cover up everything Harper ever said about anything prior to 2004.
  18. You clearly don't have a clue what a neocon is.
  19. I am not calling him a liar, you are. I'm saying he is not wishy-washy, that his ideas are well thought-out and he knows exactly what he believes. You seem to be saying that he has renounced the principles he stood for when he founded the Reform Party and was president of the NCC, when he hasn't. I am saying, just as you are, that he may be willing to make policy concessions to get elected and stay in power. I don't agree with neoconservativism and so I would agree that it is a negative term (based on my own ideology). You probably have no problem with the ideology, but you're scared to use th
  20. You're the one saying calling Harper a neocon is reactionary, hurtful and a lie. You're the o ne turning it into a bogeyman term by being so scared to admit that it fully defines his positions.
  21. I believe that there is a civil war in the CPC: neocons versus moderate conservatives; Harper supporters and the anybody-but-Harper former PCers who supported Stronach. To appease the moderates and to get elected, Harper is downplaying his personal beliefs that he very willingly expressed for 15 years in political life. Whether or not his agenda will come to fruition after he is elected depends a lot on how badly he wants to get reelected and how strong the remaining moderates are in the party. So his agenda isn't exactly hidden, since it's been clearly put on the record over the years, but it
  22. No, I think newoconservativism was defined by neoconservatives. Blair isn't one (going into Iraq doesn't automatically make him one--didn't you read the definition?).
  23. Okay, fine. Martin has some principles that could be considered neoconservative. I'm not using it as a bogeyman term like many others do. I'm just stating the facts, ma'am. Harper is a neocon; the CPC will lie and cry and do anything to make it seem like he isn't.
  24. Neocon is not a reactionary phrase (neo-fascist certainly sounds like one though). Neoconservative is a common term used by many (some pro, some against) to define political principles that Harper has built his career on. CPC is beginning to sound like a term to define conservatives who will do whatever they can to hide their true beliefs in order to get elected.
  25. Remind everyone what the National Citizen's Coalition stands for and that Harper was the president. Oh, and use that four-letter word "Iraq" a few times. That should do it.
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