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  1. 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

    Towns of healthy people where almsot everyone is dying = biblical proportions.

    Towns where no one even knows anyone who died - covid 19. Do you actually know anyone who died? Does anyone you know know anyone who died of covid?

    On avg 7,700 Americans die every day. Since Jan 31 that's over 800,000 people that would have died in a normal year. A lot of the 100,000 that died from covid would have been part of the 800,000 anyways.

    So yes, the social distancing strategy is working. Trumper logic suggests that's a reason to stop it.

    That's why they're Trumpers. Because logic isn't a strong suit.

  2. 7 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

    Really?

    According to NY stats, only 0.7% of the people who died of covid were known to not have any "pre-existing medical conditions". Undoubtedly some, most or maybe even all of the 0.7% were heavy smokers, drinkers, or drug addicts, they just fall into this category because didn't have diabetes, cancer, heart disease, kidney disease, etc.

    Do you know what percentage of the population has a known preexisting medical condition? Did you know that all of them are actual human people?

  3. 43 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

    Major plagues kill a lot of very healthy people.

    Covid-19 kills almost 0% of very healthy people.

    I haven't heard of a healthy 28 yr old dying from covid yet. 

    The Spanish flu killed about 2-3% of the people on earth, and not everyone got it. That means that the infected death rate was much higher than 2-3%. Healthy 28 yr olds were one of the hardest hit groups. 

    You aren't paying very close attention. 

  4. 29 minutes ago, Shady said:

    No, I’m advocating opening up everything, but adhering to mitigation and distancing measures, like masks, gloves if necessary, washing hands, using hand sanitizer before entering stores or restaurants or bars etc.  People that are high risk should probably avoid such places.  I will admit to being partially wrong.  It looks like there probably will be a vaccine.  Possibly as early as September/October.

    Isn't that what we're doing? Nobody disagrees with you, except of course the Trumpers who think it's a Democrat hoax and therefore are fighting the mitigation efforts you espouse.

  5. 1 hour ago, Shady said:

    We flattened the curve, and made sure hospitals weren’t overwhelmed.  That was the point.  It wasn’t shut down until there’s a vaccine.  The goalposts have been moved.  Btw, there might never be a vaccine.  If you expect people to live this way indefinitely you’re insane.  Especially for a virus that if you’re healthy and under 65, has a minuscule chance of killing you.  The whole world has lost it’s freaking mind.

    I got a haircut last week, so who expects things to be shut down until there's a vaccine? You shut it down until you can contain it and you have the resources to test and contact trace outbreaks, as we have in Manitoba. Once again, you're inventing an opponent to debate with where none exist.

    Unless, of course, you're advocating that we just throw it all out the window and let a significant portion of the population die while still enjoying all the economic devastation. 

  6. 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

     

    I get that we have a responsibility to do the right things to protect the vulnerable now, and I'm happy to wear a mask when necessary to do that, but the current iteration of covid is not comparable with the major plagues any more than the common cold is comparable with stage 4 cancer. 

    It hasn't sunk in that this isn't a major plague because our efforts to prevent that are working?

  7. 2 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

    The fact you dont get it is no surprise. You are free to stay in your rabbit hole all summer, if you're afraid the virus "might mutate". Me, I'm gong outside like I have done every day since this started.

    Me, and all the other people who kept working.

    Say, did you notice how many grocery store clerks had to work also, none wear masks and people milling through the store each day? So where is the outbreak, supergenius?

    I don't have to stay inside because we took it seriously in time and brought the numbers down to zero. We can't be complacent but now we can do what we want without jeopardizing the lives of thousands of people. The lack of an outbreak here proves to me that our shutdown efforts work, not that they were unnecessary. 

  8. 24 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

    Not normally. When they mutate these respiratory viruses often fall apart. So while there is no way to be "certain" what it will do, there is no point in hiding while we wai for something to mutate. You might also get hit by a bus tomorrow, does that mean everyone should stay home now?

    That's foolish. Getting hit by a bus isn't extremely contagious. 

  9. 8 minutes ago, Rue said:

    He was expressing a subjective opinion in a respectful way as many of us  do on this topic. You as usual have nothing to contribute to the subject ...just the need to show up and take a personal shot at someone whose opinion you disagree with. You have no opinion to share just a snide aside.  

    That is why whatever name is used on this forum  the trolling remains identical.

     

    I wasn't being sarcastic, just as I am not sarcastic when I talk about your storied law career.

  10. 19 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

    Other people are also saying this. It all depends on who is loudest in the screaming. I'm not surprised that it has everyone mesmerized as you are, BubberMiley.

    Maybe you can explain the rationale of leaving old folks confined in their cramped overloaded homes, while the virus picks them off daily, one-two-three. Please go find me an expert theory on that.

    I'm not sure. We haven't had a new case in my province in a week even though everything is open. That's because we were patient and took it seriously and didn't panic.

  11. 10 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

    I agree completely. That would be completely unrealistic.

    In my opinion, our government and perhaps many others have made a major and fundamental blunder in handling this outbreak. This information is not by hindsight either. Respiratory viruses are known to do what this has done in old age homes. That is what happens each year, lug infections and pneumonia kill thousands of elderly Canadians each year. This is not something new due to Covid-19. If you live in or work with a "medical family" you would be aware of these things, otherwise probably not.

    I'm very impressed that in a few short weeks you've become such an expert on virology that you can instruct people who have spent their lives studying it on what is the correct thing to do.

     

  12. It's interesting to watch how difficult this virus is to contain, even in a locked down situation. In Manitoba, where we are socially distant by nature, we've so far managed to keep the numbers low (just one new case in the last two days), but we still can't be complacent. North Dakota, which is just an hour's drive and even more naturally isolated and half the population of Manitoba, was getting the same number as Manitoba in March,  up into around 35 a day in early April, and is now around 67 new cases a day. You'd think that with fewer than 100 cases a day, they could contain it. Manitoba has been able to so far and has brought its numbers down from a high of 40. The only difference I can see is North Dakota (and the U.S. in general) has a less competent government. 

  13. 5 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

     

    Except for 3M masks crossing the border....lots of Canadian begging for those.

    I think we just got a shitload of masks from China. But one article that states the reality that some people on both sides are experiencing hardships because the border is closed doesn't mean we want to open it. That's a pretty weak attempt, even by your standards. Haven't you been following? Your president expressed a desire to open it soon, but Trudeau, being the sane, rational leader he is, rejected his pleas outright.

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