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  1. Cool....aren't these the same folks who gave us World War I ?
  2. But it does make it different.....the US Bill of Rights were actually amendments to the constitution, not an afterthought imported more than 100 years later. The "extreme" liberalism stems from not the Charter itself, but liberal interpretation via so called "Charter Politics". We saw this for same gender marriage....an issue that was reviewed and rejected (excluding sexual orientation) when the Charter was orginally drafted.
  3. My business visits, now over a dozen years old, are irrelevant compared to the stark pollution reality of today, and today's "tree hugging" standards. Millions of Canadians and Americans have not emmigrated to China....I wonder why?
  4. One member insists that the US is irrelevant, so what does it matter if recognition is forthcoming from Washington? Hey, how do you think the USA was founded? Not everybody wants to wait for permission from the "throne" to be a sovereign state. I suppose this sentiment is completely foreign to the Canadian experience....if armed conflict be the only recourse, then armed conflict it shall be. I like Patrick Henry's version: ....Let us not deceive ourselves, sir. These are the implements of war and subjugation -- the last arguments to which kings resort. I ask gentlemen, sir, what means this martial array, if its purpose be not to force us to submission? Can gentlemen assign any other possible motives for it? Has Great Britain any enemy, in this quarter of the world, to call for all this accumulation of navies and armies? No, sir, she has none. They are meant for us; they can be meant for no other. They are sent over to bind and rivet upon us those chains which the British ministry have been so long forging. And what have we to oppose to them? Shall we try argument? Sir, we have been trying that for the last ten years. Have we anything new to offer on the subject? Nothing. We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain. Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves longer. Sir, we have done everything that could be done to avert the storm which is now coming on. We have petitioned; we have remonstrated; we have supplicated; we have prostrated ourselves before the throne, and have implored its interposition to arrest the tyrannical hands of the ministry and Parliament. Our petitions have been slighted; our remonstrances have produced additional violence and insult; our supplications have been disregarded; and we have been spurned, with contempt, from the foot of the throne. In vain, after these things, may we indulge the fond hope of peace and reconciliation. There is no longer any room for hope. If we wish to be free -- if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending -- if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained, we must fight! I repeat it, sir, we must fight! An appeal to arms and to the God of Hosts is all that is left us! They tell us, sir, that we are weak -- unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance, by lying supinely on our backs, and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak, if we make a proper use of the means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. Three millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable -- and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come! It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, "Peace! Peace!" -- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death! - Patrick Henry - March 23, 1775
  5. Of course....that explains why so many Canadians and Americans move to China. People's Party says clean air and water for everybody.....so it must be true.
  6. So what....Gore was still a condescending bore who learned a lesson in American civics. Hell, he didn't even win his home state. .....back to Canada.... (if that's possible)
  7. Haven't you heard....Jimmy Carter got the ball rolling in 1979 with Afghanistan. America has interests and responsibilities that defy such a simple approach as "Post #6". A superpower's job is never done......call us when you get that Quebec thing figured out.
  8. From Kosovo? Dude...the Millennium Bomber came from Canada for krissakes. We've had "terrorists" in the USA for over 150 years.
  9. I guess.....comparisons to Americans pop up in the strangest places on this forum. Still, "they" are not all voting for Obama, and those that do have good reasons....he is not Hillary Rodham Clinton, and unlike her constant use of "I"...he uses the inclusive "We" far more often. George Bush was more likable than Gore or Kerry too. LOL! ....back to Canada....
  10. Of course it makes sense....President Bush is a goddamn hero in Albania! Bringing eastern Europe "on-side" will include all manner of folk. Save that campy "values" stchick for Canada.
  11. Hmmm...seems you have forgotten Chretien, Martin, Schroeder, Blair, and Chirac.
  12. If you are basing your wild prediction on the NY Times story, please note that the Times endorsed Senator John McCain. The "American people" will vote in an election....leave any notion of turfing for the Grits as before.
  13. America will be the judge of that....it spent TRILLIONS against the FSU. ("F" being the abbreviation for "former' [soviet Union]) ....and the wall came down.
  14. Yes, it is premature to assume any such thing. Welcome to the new Eastern Bloc...stars and stripes style. No more need to smuggle in blue jeans. How about some missiles and fries to go with that?
  15. I never got a job from a poor man...or nation. Go "pricks"!
  16. OK...but you won't explain the absence of words from Canada.....bombs yes...words no! Kosovo is largely ethnic Albanians, and UN efforts at a constitutional solution within a sovereign Serbia have failed. I believe this geo-political fault line should be recognized for what it is, and to the extent that the Republic of Kosovo brings much needed investment and opportunity from/for the West, it should be applauded. On balance, the USA has recognized the Republic of Kosovo because the positives outweigh the negatives for American interests. Sixteen other nations have done the same for their own reasons. Meanwhile, Canada doesn't lead or follow..it does nothing but hide behind the waning UN mandate.
  17. Good....this means it was actually the right decision. The UK, France, Germany, and other nations agree. Canada didn't mind actually killing Serbs with bombs during Allied Force in 1999, but recognizing Kosovo's independence would really be the last straw. Oh my!
  18. Correct, it will not decide whether he becomes president, but it will have an impact on why/how he loses.
  19. Hillary's biggest mistake was the presumption of nomination without respect for the grueling process of party process. You have to win in the playoffs before going to the Super Bowl. I think she is a qualified candidate, but that isn't good enough. The political process itself picks winners and losers, not the candidates. It has been said that the actual presidency is far easier.
  20. There is more at play here...Obama wants/needs to keep his broad appeal, transcending race, gender, and in the case of the "black" electorate, socio-economic class. Obama's "blackness" was challenged early on by those loyal to the traditional Democratic machinery. Now they find themselves supporting a losing candidate in Senator Clinton, thinking she would prevail for their usual interests. Mrs. Obama can help him cement his credentials as a "black" candidate, while he rises above race. I think Mr. Obama is about to find out just how far "hope" can take a candidacy....it will be hard ball for months with dirt flying in both directions. We're in for quite the ride. At the risk of patronizing, you're not naive at all. The best coaching cannot prevent the eventual gaffe or misstep. We learn more about a candidate when in damage control mode.
  21. What? Did you think you can sling criticism while receiving none in return? Blame it on America...Sheesh!
  22. Now you're just adding partisanship on top of unqualified criticism of another nation's election process, which would have been identical had Mr. Gore prevailed. Bottom line....you (i.e. the world) watch our elections with great interest....the outcome is never a sure thing. The past 7 years were just more of the same American political experience with ups and downs for many depending on their point of view. The foundation itself is not in question, even if candidates think they need to change it. Good luck with that. Perhaps you are comfortably smug in passing judgement on an election process that works at the local, state, and federal levels for a nation of 300,000,000 while having less direct democracy in your own political system. That's OK.
  23. Specific string search yields: Results 1 - 10 of about 250 for "america loves obama". Results 1 - 10 of about 390 for "america loves hillary". Yea.... Hillary wins!
  24. Incompetence? Broken? From afar it may look that way, but further education would reveal why it was purposely designed to accomodate democracy within a constitutional republic of small states....medium states...and large states. The election system works as well as we wish it to. No nation has a perfect approach. Even at its worst (say in 2000 or 1960), the world knew that a decision would be made without riots, upheval, military coup, or falling government.
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