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  1. Encouraging news, but I also think this is even more encouraging: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Egyptian%E2%80%93Israeli_border_attack#Egypt Essentially you have Israel and Egypt working out a security agreement on the fly and Egypt conducting intense operations against Islamist terrorists, all spearheaded by the Egyptian President (on the Egyptian side). Not getting a lot of publicity, but very significant.
  2. I'll rephrase the title of this post a little bit - I think the case of Omar Khadr should make us ashamed to be Canadian. Let's run-down the basic facts of Omar Khadr: - Raised by a religious extremist family and terrorist father - Schooled mostly at extremist religious schools in Pakistan - Once he reached adolescence he was taken by his father to a remote camp in Afghanistan cut off from the outside world and groomed for terrorism Where in that does anyone see a realistic opportunity for Omar Khadr to be a normal kid? Nowhere. He was essentially abused by his father - it wasn't a case o
  3. Of course you'll ignore my statement - because you're a tribalist who happens to be Jewish. "Your people" do not have the same capacity for extremism or violence because, "your people" are different and better, because we're Chosen. Admittedly it was inflammatory, but it was to make a point - we clearly have a double standard if we can easily call Muslims who want to impose Muslim law and scripture on daily life and politics "extremists" but Jews who have the same desires aren't. Those efforts manifest in different ways given historical, religious, economic and political contexts - but the de
  4. As usual, there is a background of events that you're completely unaware of . . . Nablus . . . 1 - IDF soldiers dismantle a Jewish extremist settlement in the West Bank that was illegal even under Israeli law. 2 - The fundamentalist settler thugs respond by marching into Palestinian neighbourhoods and clashing with the people there, including women and children. 3 - The IDF breaks up the confrontation, several people are injured and one Palestinian dies. 4 - The settler thugs proceed to firebomb a home, miraculously no one is killed, but two children are sent to hospital. 5 - A lone Pale
  5. When has Canada ever been one of three or less countries in the world voting against a resolution against any of those countries? Canada does not unconditionally back up other nations who are in violation of international law for over 40 years. Canada goes to bat for Israel to an extent we do not do so for any other nation. And my point is that I don't see how this benefits us, and frankly I think it harms our international reputation, all in the name of very short-sighted vote grabbing at home. I think Canada should treat Israel as it does the US or UK - which is to say that we believe ei
  6. Thanks for jumping in to nitpick. Care to pick up where JBG has ran off from? . . . The question is: how is it in Canada's economic, political, or strategic interest to support Israel to the degree which the Harper government does? A degree which is far beyond the support we give any other allied nation? I could also ask - how is it in Israel's interest for foreign powers to support a highly politicized foreign policy that benefits one side of the Israeli political spectrum at the expense of the nation's future as a Jewish democracy? . . . But that's a whole different post.
  7. Doesn't matter, Israel doesn't have the capacity to host other nation's militaries. They don't have large army and air bases like say, Turkey, which they can rent out space at to other countries. Also - why do we need to unconditionally support Israel in order to have this option? Couldn't we just treat them like we do the US or UK and not rubber-stamp every single foreign policy move they make? Other nations we're not particularly close with let us use their bases, after all. It's pretty clear that there is no political, economic, strategic benefit to supporting Israel to the degree that w
  8. How is Israel a forward base? There are no NATO troops stationed there. Israel has never been used, even during the Iraq war, as a staging point for Western troops. During the Iraq war the US used Turkey, Qatar, the UAE, Kuwait, and aircraft carriers as forward bases. If anything unconditional support for Israel (to a degree we don't even reserve for the US) has marginalized Canada's already limited role in the middle east. I think it harms Canadian foreign policy more than it helps, because when it comes time to talk trade, Middle East nations are reluctant to trade openly with a lap-dog of
  9. Yes you do, because you haven't answered my question, all you've done is listed two ways in which Canada and Israel are similar. You haven't explained what Canada gets out of unfailingly supporting all of Israel's foreign policy moves as we've done since Harper's come to office. What do we get about supporting Israel to a degree that we don't even reserve for the US? How does it help our economy? Examples? How does it help us politically? Examples? How does it help us strategically? Examples? Are you incapable of providing a rational for the "special relationship?"
  10. And most do. Contrary to that specific instance, most Muslim students in Canada attend public schools and participate in co-ed programming. Rather than tar and feather all Muslims - it's more productive to point out to those families "hey, if it's anti-Islamic, than how come so many other Muslims are doing it? And how come this Imam says it's fine?" But then again, that would mean solving a problem and integrating people, rather than using a problem to lobby for discriminatory immigration requirements based on race or religion.
  11. Really? Haven't drug gangs with Caribbean backgrounds killed more people in Canada than the zero people killed by Islamist terrorists? Or Italian mafia for that matter? Or white biker gangs? And why should I be freaked out about a danger that is less common than dying by lightning strike?
  12. Except - there is no popular religious leader like Khomeini, the clerics did not organize the opposition, and the army has taken over . . . Meaning that it's pretty much NOTHING like Iran '79. But I digress, perhaps you could point out specific examples of how it's like Iran, like "they both have a lot of Muslims!" or "They deposed a dictator!"
  13. It's already been established that Mr. Canada hates democracy - after all, he only supports elections when they elect people he likes. When an election produces a leader like Obama for example - he decries the whole system as corrupt. So of course he thinks Socialists are in bed with the Islamists - because then no matter the outcome in an Egyptian or Tunisian election he can claim that the result proves a global conspiracy between the Socialists, Islamists, Illuminati, and Bigfoot.
  14. Good news, elections within 6 months Much sooner than I expected - but this backs up what I said earlier about the Military being very responsive to the demands of the public. If they're well respected now - they'll be lionized if they oversee a transition to a vibrant democracy.
  15. That wasn't just the American media that had that view, it was pretty much every proper news outlet in the world, and the view of the vast majority of middle east analysts who were watching this very closely. The brotherhood had little to do with the protests, they were participants after a while, but they were not in control of it - if you had to pick anyone who was a leader, it was folks aligned with the thoroughly secular and democratic April 6th youth movement that's been working behind the scenes for at least 3 years now.
  16. Cosign This guy is unbelievable sometimes. I mean really - is it too much to ask for him to outline why it's in Canada's economic, political, or strategic interests to support Israel to the extreme we do now? Did he not expect someone to put that question to him when he made the post? I've never heard an explanation from hardcore Israel supporters why we need to support Israel to a much greater degree than we do say, the US or the UK. We don't go to bat for them the way we do Israel.
  17. Don't start. You know damn well there's more than two options (support Netanyahu's policies or support Hamas), and you know damn well I'm not suggesting getting in bed with Hamas. Do I need to repeat myself or are you going to actually respond to any of the points I've raised?
  18. There are key differences between the two. The brotherhood is an organized institution with a charter, the religious opposition to the Shah was more like a network of clerics who didn't have an agenda beyond getting rid of the Shah. As such, they're more predictable, and from the look of it and even from their internal communication, they don't appear to have any desire to seize power. They've done nothing over this period to indicate anything other than their support for reform and free elections. Keep in mind that they didn't even really endorse the protests until the second week, once it w
  19. Because I think they can read the writing on the wall. Even though the Egyptian economy has been growing rapidly in the past few years (5-7%) the nature of a dictatorship is that it can't get those gains to distribute across all of society. Egypt's regime is fundamentally corrupt so all that money stays at the top. Democracy isn't prefect, but it's a lot better at redistributing wealth than a regime like Mubarak's. They know that if they take over and noting changes, than their prestigious reputation will be wiped away quickly and soon they'll be the subject of protests. The only other option
  20. Newsflash: Egypt is not Iran. Just because they're mostly Muslim countries, doesn't make them the same.
  21. Israel enjoys a relationship with Canada that is beyond that of any other nation, except maybe the US. Even in regards to the US, we do occasionally disagree on things (Iraq War), however under Harper Canada has basically approved of every single Israeli foreign policy move, often times being only one of 1-3 countries in the world to do so. We give Israel unflinching support, and even though I'm Jewish, I'm also Canadian, and I always find myself asking, what's in it for Canada? And so your reasoning for continuing this special relationship is: 1 - Both nations were founded as colonial proje
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