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Dave_ON

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  1. Hard work isn't enough Bill and it's disingenuous to suggest otherwise. If you don't have anything of great value to work hard at it won't do you any good. Wealth is a combination of hard work and in Alberta's case geographical luck. When Alberta was formed Oil was unknown and not valuable. The people in Alberta in 1905 were no less hard working, then those of today. Secondly, Alberta did not develop their resources in a vacuum. It was developed with the assistance and manpower of other provinces. Alberta had neither the population nor the resources to develop this on their own. Non-
  2. IOW the cost of one first class ticket from Toronto to Boston on AC?
  3. Well he'd have to drive a GM to get OnStar technically. However, I would suggest we could save a great deal on PM security, if we hired Chretien to train Harper in the art of PM kick butt. Cream pies in the face or breaking into Sussex drive Mr. Chretien knew how to handle it all! To the original post however, he's got every right to a hockey game as any other Canadian. Any other Canadian, doesn't need a jet or security detail. It's the cost of maintaining the office of the PM. It's coming out of his own pocket and the Jet is costing the tax payers money regardless of whether it's bei
  4. I wasn't actually unaware that it was a joint US Canadian project, thanks for the clarification. Though I would be interested to see the cost difference in maintaining the sea way vs. shipping to an ice free port via rail infrastructure. I suppose I'm not convinced the decision to build and maintain the seaway is the most cost effective method. Perhaps I'm seeing political expediency where none exists and it is in fact a geographic convenience.
  5. I get what you're saying but the situation you're describing is a product of a multiparty system. Honestly our system works best with 2 main parties. The phenomenon you're describing is a result of vote splitting. Yes NDP and LPC are different parties, but many consider them similar and will flip flop between them. Honestly we need two strong main parties, and possibly a minor third out there to occasionaly hold the balance of power in a minority situation. That has been the great balance that was maintained for over 100 years in Canada, that is until the PC's collapsed. It took a long
  6. I agree with you on a provincial level, but getting back to the OP's point I don't know that it's even technically possible for say Northern Ontario, to separate from South Western Ontario. Forgetting for a second that most of the wealth of Ontario, comes from SW Ontario, a province is not a federation. Therefore, there is technically nothing to secede from. Ontario, is as it is, I suppose it's conceivable that we could revert back to the early Ontario boarder, before a large portion of the NW territories was added to the province. I don't think reverting to territory status would be parti
  7. Well now that's a little more reasonable. I may live in Ontario now, but I don't consider myself to be a dyed in the wool Ontarian. I have strong Maritime roots, and still consider that my home, even though I haven't lived there for over a decade. There are different values out there and a different pace and outlook on life. Alberta was hurt by the NEP sure, but they are not the only region in Canada to suffer at the hands of the feds. Ontario and Quebec have a long history of funneling money to the center. Many westerners speak of funneling money east, well that's true, but the train
  8. As they should, the bulk of the population is in those two provinces. That's the idea behind rep by pop. The senate is intended to balance that out and curtail the tyranny of the majority. It's not quite fully functioning that way, but it's a site better than if we didn't have the senate.
  9. This is the primary reason TROC takes issue with Albertans, in one breath they complain about how they've always been treated like crap, and in the second breath they brag about how superior they are to TROC. It's kind of poor form and makes it hard to sympathize with what happened during the NEP. Except a workforce that is derived from every region in the Canada, mostly the East, which you're so fond of reminding, how much better then them you are. Just not a locally and self sustained work force. So do all regions, it's not just Alberta that has been overpowered by ON and Que
  10. Not entirely accurate, there are plenty of good arguments and data on "the left". The problem as present is the vote split. The LPC are believed to be a "left" party even though they arguably haven't been thus since the Trudeau era. So many lump the NDP and LPC together. This generated many vote splits like we saw in Ontario which worked to the CPC's advantage. In many cases there were very close calls, my own riding was a few hundred votes. Many ridings were closer than that.
  11. Indeed as the US is well aware, however, "not liking the election results" is a reason that is conspicuously absent from the list. Not liking and not functioning are entirely different affairs.
  12. Seriously? Wish I had the world wrapped up in a neat little package like you seem to have. (ie. anyone who doesn't think, act or believe as I do isn't moral.) What specific morals are you referring to? Are you the sole arbiter of all things right and good in the world? Compartmentalization is great for your closet, it shouldn't be applied to people. "follow the man who seeks the truth, run from the man who has found it"
  13. Oddly enough it's navigated us through several wars, economic and social crisis as well as disasters. Yes indeed the system is broken, let's dispense with something that has worked for the better part of 5 centuries in a myriad of nations across the world, for something yet unproven and random, because God forbid we upset another senate page.
  14. To quote Herbert Marshal McLuhan "The Medium is the Message". This type of behavior causes me, and others to dismiss her outright, and in fact has the opposite effect of what she was trying to achieve. She comes across as a childish glory seeking "whackado" worthy of derision and not praise. You see what you have to say is significantly less important in most cases as to how you say it. I wish I could find the example I'm looking for but for now this will have to suffice. Consider the following sentence to illustrate my point. Depending on how we form the sentence in terms of punctuation
  15. I'm inclined to agree with Army guy. As much as it saddens me, the shipbuilding industry is in fact dead in Canada; to say otherwise is to delude ourselves. The reasons are manifold, and mostly political, but that's neither here nor there. Suffice it to say, we would not be able to sufficiently rebuild the ship building industry in Canada in time to build these ships. Further it would take a significant amount of investment on the part of the government to research, train the necessary personnel to maintain and grow the industry. The reality is we would be our only customer's at this po
  16. I agree, the razing is a wee bit over the top, but at the same time, it was poor form to go out of the country on election night, even if you didn't expect to win. It does demonstrate a certain lack of seriousness towards the position. However, poorly begun is only half done, and since then she has put forth a great deal of effort to grow into her responsibilities. She even speaks french better than Mr. Harper now
  17. I fear worse still, that they won't have real opposition in the next election and they will follow the same path as the LPC, grow arrogant and corrupt due to lack of competition. I sincerely hope this is not a cycle we've entered into. People should not be celebrating the likely death of the LPC, the NDP isn't even remotely prepared to fill their shoes. It may seem like everything is coming up roses for the CPC now, but I think the current situation will only lead to disaster for the CPC if they are left uncontested for too long. Our system functions best when we have two relatively evenly
  18. I wasn't aware that was part of a senate pages responsibilities. That is to be a part of the Prime Minister of the Commons direct council. I also wasn't aware that Senate pages were afforded special access to the PM that ordinary citizens were not, or that they have the ability to express their personal political opinions on my dime. The sad thing in all this is I don't even really disagree with her statement about Mr. Harper. That's besides the point, there is a time and a place for dissent and the middle of the throne speech is not it., she abused her power and privileged access to the s
  19. Not too bad idea. Although I think Molly has a valid Point about the territories. We need to have provisions set in place that if/when they reach provincial status they will be afforded an equal share in the senate. It was this lack of planning in the beginning that created the power imbalance in East vs. West to start with. Keeping in mind that when Canada was formed, Manitoba and BC constituted the "West" and Manitoba was significantly smaller are and population wise back then. I think a standard assigned number of seats for each province is best really.
  20. The problem with your system is you fail to account for the fact that it's not an east west dynamic. It's an Atlantic, Central Canada, West dynamic. The Atlantic provinces have little in common with Ontario and Quebec. The distribution is better in Bonam's suggestion, as it allows for 16 in the Atlantic, 16 in Central, and 16 in the west, that's a perfect balance imo.
  21. An excellent point I hadn't considered. I suppose there truly is no way to avoid patronage appointments, its either on the provincial or federal level. I suppose we'd be trading one issue for another. I still don't like that the PM appoints the senators, perhaps it should be a parliamentary committee that makes the appointment?
  22. Indeed, which is precisely why I don't buy into the Triple E garbage. In order for the senate to be effective it by definition must NOT be elected. Simply moving the power of appointment from the PM to the provinces/regions they represent would go a long way to fix the current problems. Equal would be better, but at the very least give the power to the povinces/regions to appoint their own senators, this would offer somewhat more accountability to the regions they hail from.
  23. Just keep on repeating the party line blindly punked, God forbid you think for yourself or even consider another line of thinking. Why are you so hell bent on destroying something that if corrected would benefit our country and solve many of the inequities? Ontario and Quebec seized the lions share of the power and has held onto it for far too long. This is why there is much resentment in the west and even the Atlantic towards central Canada. You are a prime example of a typically oblivious, I'm every Canadian Ontarian.
  24. A fair point Molly, though the rules surrounding territories are indeed different then those of provinces. However, we should likely put in provisions should the territory reach provincial status and they become and equal, self sustained partner is confederation. To those who are suggesting ON and PQ should still have more senators than the rest of the province I can't agree. That may be the reality of it to get them on board, but honestly the senate is not intended to be rep-by-pop in the least, it is the balance to the tyranny of the majority. We have the lower house to handle the pop
  25. I'm with you on that. I'm more a fan of no income tax, but since that will likely never happen, we need to make it a low reasonable rate for all with little to no exemptions/credits. Why should tax first be collected and then refunded? This means that people like you and I have no shortage of employment, but for the little business guy who can't necessarily afford a comprehensive business system or a tax accountant can easily get swamped. They have to know all the tax laws, know the filing procedures and what they qualify for in terms of exemptions/credits. This guy is more concerned with
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