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  1. The sad reality is we have not learned very much from history , we still have war, and all of its evil........in fact we spend more on war than any other endeavor man has taken on in our entire history.. Infact we have a clock that try's to predict how much time we have left on this planet before we wipe each other out... if our actions are any indicator we have not learned much from our past...
  2. you mean like the crises in 2000 with all the computers going to crash at midnight, and shut everything down for years..... how many bils did we spend on that farce...how many bils did the corporate dipshits make on our stupidity. all back up by science was it not ? I don't see how we could not believe everything the UN or our government spew, do you...
  3. His appeal is going no where, This is not about the law this is about the politics behind it. I would be very surprised if any US court would reverse this decision. Do you think that brain washing has an effect on judgement in a court of law, what was Patricia Hurst sentence in her case which was because of brainwashing, was she not found guilty ? . Did you know right for wrong at age 15 years plus 11 months, would you say that most Canadians by age 15 know that taking a human life is wrong, even criminal, and yet all his actions plus all his recordings seem to display that he took great pride in what he was doing, even though he was armed with the fact it was wrong....But because of some UN policy we have to forget that US ruling, The same policy that states it does not give any child soldier the freedom not to be prosecuted under the law... The level of evidence is not the same in a military tribunal, there is not the beyond a doubt standard, it is much lower. why is that do you think? could it have to do with the fact that the conflict takes priority or everything, each battle ground is not treated as a crime scene, that and the fact large aircraft bombs, mortars, arty shells tend to destroy any physical evidence, that and the fact the Afghans people are very poor, so all the brass and anything of value would have been salvaged once US military left. which was very quickly as they were worried about getting Omar to medical help and out of the area so not to be counter attacked...So with no physical evidence except the few pictures that were taken of the area, and a few witness statements, one could not expect to get a conviction in a regular criminal court...does that mean Omar is not a war criminal ? Once again you can call him what ever you like full stop, , but under the US military tribunal they classified him as a terrorist full stop, Under US civil law full stop, he was one of the first people to be classified as such full stop... thats not me making those rulings , that was US courts....Canada also now has similar laws, to which treat terrorist very differently... Ya they did, some how this terrorist scumbag has won favor in your mind, you truly believe that his rights trumps everyone else, such as the widows rights, or the Afghanis people rights what about those. His crimes were committed in Afghanistan which he did not answer for....And if not Afghanistan because shit what do they know right...then what about Canadian civil laws, the ones he blatantly broke, just being involved in a terrorist organization is against the law..., Assisting an enemy of this country through spying or passing on info is a big no no, what about taking up arms against a known allied to which Canada is fighting next to, , another big no no, just those 2 laws are grounds for treason alone....but we have no will to charge anyone with treason, let alone any other laws he broke during his time as a terrorist..... the last person charged with treason got a full pardon and an apology, sorry we hung you for crimes that were treasonous....atleast according to Justin...mind you well after the fact no more than a PR exercise... We as a nation are so focused on his rights as a Canadian , that we forget he was not the only player in this sad story, first there is the death of US sf medic, then there was US intel reports that confirmed Omar's own story about planting mines, and the time stamp on the tape, those mines had killed and wounded US service persons, along with Afghans civilians. He also admitted to planting mines in other time frames as well, with no reports of any US military being wounded or killed, but they are unsure of Afghanis civilians. What other activities did he take part in, he admitted to spying, and passing that info to a known terrorist organization....all of this on tapes found at the same home where the fire fight broke out at....they were not under any integrations, or made under torture, like loud music or having the lights on....And what of the ones we don't know of because no one took that angle. I think Omar actions made all his given rights to being Canadian null and void, I think once you declare war on this nation and her allies you should not be able to come home and piss all over the same constitution that protects the rest of Canadians, not Canadians of convenience, Omar's family , but Canadians that contribute to this nation, in this time and place we reward those that fought against this great nation, and we make it's Vets take the people of Canada to court over basic rights and needs that most Canadians already have... Sad really, and you have not yet wonder why so many military vets are bitter towards Omar and what he represents. And I'm the one that is insulted for not using my brain, or living up to your aspirations of what a soldier should be, should act like.....I feel the same way when I hear you and other take up for young Omar...., you have chosen a terrorist over the very people you once stood up for...…. This opinion is not just mine, many Canadians have it, along with many like minded nations, who believe this terrorist are a national security risk and their rights to what their nations has to offer them is null and void. upheld by their courts...Even our own nation is taking similar action only backwards we will let the fighters return offer them classes in the arts and poetry we just will not let their wifes and children back in the country...does that make sense to you, still sure your on the right side of this debate....
  4. Nobody is forcing anything on Canadians, he was captured by US forces, after he was charged with murdering a US service member, who do you think was going charge him , and see him through a military tribunal....the UN, the Hague, no the capturing nation is reasonable for determining his status and proceeding with charges, thats how all of this works, you are not asked to understand it, but that is the law, inter-national, US and Canadian. I did have a chioce, one I could have been released as a CO, and turned my backs on my brothers and sisters to leave them to their own devices in this conflict, and lived with that fact that if anything bad had happened to them while I was at home enjoying myself.....something I may have prevented by my presence, .that would haunt me ...for the rest of my life. again that may be one of your character traits, but it is not one of mine....I did not pick this conflict, OUR country decided that for all of us, for me, and you....the difference between us is you chose to sit at home and whine about it, me and thousands of other Canadians decided to support that decision right or wrong...and do something about it...
  5. You still don't get it, He was charged under a US military tribunal, that was using US laws...had nothing to do with the conventions...nothing...Omar was a Canadian citizen who was Captured by US forces , and charged with the murder of a US Soldier.. and would be tried in a US court of law.... Omar's pay out was due to CSIS passing on info they had collected during their interviews with Omar...disregarding some of his Canadian rights... which we as a nation became so focused on, that we completely forgot to press any other charges such as treason, or being an terrorist, or at very minimum an illegal combatant, I know that means nothing to you....or to the other Canadians that think like you.... We as a nation thought what ever sentence the US handed down would suffice, 9 years was what he was sentenced ...for murder... Yes he was subjected to torture, loud music and the light were left on during the night....WOW mean while the Taliban was cutting the heads off US army personal that they had captured, and put his killing on the inter net....along with dozens of other killings....and still Canadians find time to weep for a terrorist, no tears for the people of Afghanistan, though …. who had to survive their reign of terror, and what Omar contributed to their pain, he did after all plant mines that killed the first person that drove over them...in most cases this was Afghanis civilians , I know your Canadian passport means fuc* them Afghanis,guys he is one of ours a Canadian who is above the law, and yet here in Canada under aged minors are still subjected to being tried as adults for adult crimes, like ya you guessed it murder....Canada took the easy way out because to many Canadian liberals were crying about his age, and how a Canadian boy got caught up in it all...It would have been difficult to try him for treason, because the law is to old, and still today it has not been updated so it can be used...because putting a teenager on the stand for murder means lost votes...
  6. He was charged under US law, and a court of law classified him as a terrorist, those are the facts....and even if he was a child soldier , no where in that convention does it say that a child can not be held criminal reasonable for his actions...in this case murder, nobody gets a free ticket to ride for murder, not here in Canada and not in the US...
  7. Great , I mean talking never hurt anyone right, multi conversations should happen, to confirm research or stories, after all this is not a job interview this is letting someone into our nation , possible to become a Canadian citizens right... and yet these conversation have created such a hot topic...anything gained over the current system would be a bonus right, I mean how does Canada become known as a terrorist haven, a haven for known criminals is it because our system is working sort of.... A prime example would be when Canada went to the camps to fill Justins quota, how can one do a criminal check when the Syrian government would not cooperate, or the police stations were in rubble, with no computer records to mention, how could you confirm they were who they were, with out access to some sort of system or files. and how do you confirm who people are that had lost or had no passports or ID... So the real only option was interview...
  8. like I said before , you have no idea what your talking about, you have not been forced into that situation where the target at the end of your rifle looks like a child, but if you don't do something that child will kill you or one of your own....and when you do, come back to me and tell me how you live with that decision....and then spend 3 years of your life day after day staring at the horrific scenes that the Taliban left behind for you to clean up... and tell me you don't form a hatred for their kind...In the end they are nothing more than paper targets we use on the range, and all you fell is recoil over and over again.. This war was real, very real for me and those guys that served in it, ever day we were outside the wire I feared for my life, I prayed every morning that today we did not run into any more bad guys, so I did not have to bring home another ghost, ... it may have been fake to those at home who really tuned it out early in the conflict. It's as real as it gets, Now if you could prove any of your accusations please do, take it to the courts... until then it is all here say like hot gasses passing for ones bum....the facts remain Omar has a criminal record for murdering a soldier...he was lucky that was his only charges....
  9. No, but it would be sufficient to follow it up with more questions and more research would it not....
  10. Thats not what I said, I said there are already techniques to interview people to find certain things out such as extremists etc., but we lack the will to ie train people to use them. I mean border guards do get training on how to read people, and what questions to ask , I'm sure that training could be refined and used in immigration. Why do I have such faith, well I know it works because reading people has saved the lives of a few military people when working a vehicle check point, looking for IED's and or terrorist...and well i'm far from being an expert i'm sure someone that had more than 5 mins training like we did , could be a lot more effective... Interviewing someone for a job is way different than allowing them into the country. most of the companies I had interviews with were some guy off the floor placed in the HR position with no formal training...And I did not say interviews are the end all be all, one has to take that info and follow it up, such as phoning references, doing back ground / criminal checks etc etc... Not investing into it will also not solve anything, so I guess we are stuck in some endless cycle right.....all solutions require a few things one is will to find a solution, carry it out and to fund it...thats not being naïve thats just how things are.
  11. Are you saying there is no tell tale signs of being a terrorist or extremists, I mean there are tell tales for murders, other criminals why not terrorist, all that Canada lacks is the will...
  12. you think that US medic felt any better from his wounds , because Omar had peach fuzz.....
  13. Eyeball I don't really care what you think, you were not there nor did you see the horrors these scumbags did in the name of their religion...with a good majority not even being from Afghanistan, they just wanted a chance to kill, NATO, or civilians it did not matter. Omar was not the only under age child in combat over there, his age was common, all it takes is to be able to pull a trigger and your in combat, age plays no role in that....and once you lose a close friend or comrade, trust me it gets easier to take a life, in order to survive...you continue to standup of Omar , but in the end he was in that organization that has killed , tortured, terrorized , an entire population. I personal think he got off way to easy, and that pay out , was a slap across every soldiers face that served in that CONFLICT... The Canadian armed forces applied the Geneva convention at all times those that did not were charged and dealt with by military tribunal.. The Talban did not abide by any Conventions, at any time... they committed war crimes on a regular basis , and most have not faced any form of justice. Omar made a mockery of our justice system, and what it means to be Canadian.
  14. Lets start from the start, the first process in a military tribunal is to classify the defendant determine what they are, IE illegal combatant, non combatant, etc etc...Omar was declared a terrorist under US law, (As the conventions do not have a terrorist clause yet) it was the first time that classification was used, he was also charged with the murder of a us service member...The convention clearly notes what it takes to be classified as a soldier, non combatant, illegal combatant which is a non combatant that has taken up arms and join the fight, he is now a legal target and can have lethal force used against him, regardless of age, religion, political views, sexual preference, what ever...in combat he is another terrorist with a wpn.... https://www.icrc.org/en/document/applicability-ihl-terrorism-and-counterterrorism Vietcong members were not regular POW's most were treated as Illegal combatants, even back then that definition was clearly stated in the convention https://www.icrc.org/en/document/what-does-ihl-say-about-terrorism Terrorism is crime that should be dealt with by police not soldiers. Afghanistan was declared a conflict, but in this case both military and civilian police were used to combat terrorist...
  15. The plea was used in the US justice system, where he pleaded guilty to his crimes , in exchange for being returned to Canada .and then he still remained in Canadian prison until he had served his time....So if he wants to redress those sentences he would have to do that through the US system, and they are not going to pay him anything.. …..But also the widow has already filed claims against his new found wealth.....once on American soil do you think they are not going forward with the widows claims...If Justin had any back bone, he would have made sure that 10.5 mil was re directed to the widow...instead he made sure that it was untouchable... giving the terrorist a gift for which he did not deserve. Canada owes him nothing, he made a chioce one that he reveled in being able to kill American soldiers, who were Canadian allies, fighting in the same theater... In Afghanistan he was considered an adult, in Canada he would have been an adult in a few months, he knew what he was doing , but many here consider he was brain washed....HE was a terrorist period , one that planted mines that claimed not only soldiers lives but unarmed innocent civilians.....he also spied on American and NATO troop movements and reported that info to a known terrorist Groups…so direct action groups could take their life's … all these things he freely admitted to on his tapes, made by himself, and while in terrorist hands...all of those actions are treason...Something that he did not stand trail for....Something all of his groupies forget.. something our government forgot , He is a terrorist nothing more, he'll always be a terrorist, something I hope All Canadians will remember when he is asking for a job....or buying a home your sub division. I spent 3 combat tours in Afghanistan and I'm very familiar with how these terrorist work , how they treated the people of Afghanistan like dirt, pieces of shit to be kicked around on their leisure, forcing children to become suicide bombers, forcing adults do become bombers so the Taliban would not harm their families, your problem here is you have never been terrorized , or lived in a war zone... or had your life dictated to you by some ruthless thugs who would gladly kill you over a glance in there direction.... He has never faced his crimes he committed in Afghanistan, nor the ones in Canada...How anyone here in this nation could even look at him let alone take up his case, and not loath him is beyond my comprehension...he has made you his bitch and now he is taken you for a ride.. By now you can tell I'm not a fan of Omar and his band of little scumbags, I don't care how old he was , I don't care he was Canadian, just like most that defend him don't care he killed American service members, be it from IED's or the gun battle. they don't care what he did to the Afghanis people, they don't care he was in a group that claimed 159 plus Canadian service members through IEDS, or direct action, they don't care how many Canadian families are now without a father or mother, because people like Omar wanted the right to enslave millions of people through terror, torture, force them into there dream world , where the only way out was death. Yes none of that shit matters as long as we did not infringe on any of his rights...
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