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Hey what about choppers, the AH-64D has got to be mentioned, and the new chinnoks CH-47F another awesome machine

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Sorry, was meaning the p-38. Double tail escort fighter and light bomber.

Cool looking plane

The P-38 was always one of my favourite aircraft. It had some pretty neat tricks up its sleave for the time. One major advantage it had over conventional aircraft was the fact that all the guns were mounted in the nose of the nacelle. Wing mounted guns have to be set up with a convergence point, meaning the guns on either wing have to be angled in toward each other. Usually this point was set at about 250 yards, so effective range would be about 250 yards.

The P-38 with its nose mounted guns needed no convergence point on the rounds. Therefore effective range was about 1000 yards and the clustered weapons were devastating. It could also manouver incredibly well in the hands of a skilled pilot. The twin engines would allow it to turn on a dime. The pilot would feather one prop while going to full power on the other engine. This in effect would cause the plane to swivel or rotate on its axis. While other planes would be banking and using rudder to turn the P-38 would sort of just zip around in a much shorter arc.

All in all it was another very effective aircraft. Its real challenger was the Zero. Zero's were the ballet dancers of the Pacific theater, another great plane.

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here is one it's a model kit, just a quick find, there are other sites but most get the P-51 and P-52 mixed up.

Notice how the cockpit is set way back....a quick search did not find any others. I'll keep looking...

p-52

It's like a cross between a P-40 and a P-51. Pretty neat. Must have been on of those '1946' planes...ie: had the war gone on another year 'type-o-plane'.

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The P-38 was always one of my favourite aircraft. It had some pretty neat tricks up its sleave for the time. One major advantage it had over conventional aircraft was the fact that all the guns were mounted in the nose of the nacelle. Wing mounted guns have to be set up with a convergence point, meaning the guns on either wing have to be angled in toward each other. Usually this point was set at about 250 yards, so effective range would be about 250 yards.

The P-38 with its nose mounted guns needed no convergence point on the rounds. Therefore effective range was about 1000 yards and the clustered weapons were devastating. It could also manouver incredibly well in the hands of a skilled pilot. The twin engines would allow it to turn on a dime. The pilot would feather one prop while going to full power on the other engine. This in effect would cause the plane to swivel or rotate on its axis. While other planes would be banking and using rudder to turn the P-38 would sort of just zip around in a much shorter arc.

All in all it was another very effective aircraft. Its real challenger was the Zero. Zero's were the ballet dancers of the Pacific theater, another great plane.

The early P-38Fs were kind of doggie when it came to performance...especially against the Zeros and Oscars as you mentioned. The later models were truely wonderful machines, though. It was rumored that the XP-38 even came close to breaking the sound barrier at a few points...before compression tore the craft apart. Later P-38s had dive brakes installed which helped with the terminal dive problem that occured at higher speeds (the elevator became too stiff to move via human muscle).

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here is one it's a model kit, just a quick find, there are other sites but most get the P-51 and P-52 mixed up.

Notice how the cockpit is set way back....a quick search did not find any others. I'll keep looking...

That was quite a plane. It had a thirty cylinder engine, yikes! No wonder the cockpit was set so far back, visibility must have been a bitch on take off but I'm sure the top speed of almost five hundred miles per hour more than made up for that.

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August 9th: Today is a rather infamous day in aviation re: the bombing of Nagasaki with the atomic device 'Fatman'.

Many can name the bomber that dropped 'Little Boy' (Enola Gay...Tibet's mother) but few seem to remember the plane that dropped the 2nd bomb.

This particular plane was known as 'Bock's Car', named after the pilot of the initial crew, Capt. Frederick Bock. Here it is in the markings of the 509th Composite Group (Arrow and Circle: the A-Bomb unit). For the mission, however, it was given false markings of the 444th Bomb Group (Triangle N). Ol' number 77 is preserved in the USAF museum in Dayton Ohio to this day in excellent condition.

http://www.atomicarchive.com/Photos/Tinian/image2.shtml

http://archive.tri-cityherald.com/BOMB/bomb2.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/509th_Operations_Group

http://www.444thbg.org/index.htm

http://awesometalks.wordpress.com/2008/08/...he-atomic-bomb/

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In the first six to twelve months of a war with the United States and Great Britain I will run wild and win victory upon victory. But then, if the war continues after that, I have no expectation of success.

---Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto

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Hey, what about that new airbus that just recently launched, the worlds largest airline, i seen a special on some arab prince just had one delivered....man this plane is huge, even has several showers so that pasengers may freshen up....

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I liie planes, I love watching planes, but my favourite plane is the one I don't have to get on and my second favourite is the one that lands me safely.

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Hey, what about that new airbus that just recently launched, the worlds largest airline, i seen a special on some arab prince just had one delivered....man this plane is huge, even has several showers so that pasengers may freshen up....

I'll see if I can dig up some shots fo the Boeing plant that builds the 777. A poster on another forum works at the plant and gave us shots now and then of his workplace. What an incredible place to work at. Big open area in the middle (hanger) and the perimiter is all chock full of offices 4 floors up. He took shots from the ground, and up in the permiter offices. Damn cool stuff.

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There was a bit done by the science channel, can't remember the shows name, used to have that american and British chick on it...

they done a whole hour on it, show the different plants, how they made the wings and the body...very interesting....one incrediable aircraft...

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Vintage aircraft rally in Ottawa...

air rally

Might need a new link...

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Speaking of vintage...

From 1913: a remake of an Etrich Taube (Dove). Note the control surfaces...or lack of.

These types were famous from the opening days of WW1 on both fronts. They were particularly effective during the

(in East Prussia) where they kept up-to-the-minute tabs on the various lumbering Russian armies allowing the tiny German 8th Army to concentrate and win a massive victory.

Gosthacked, I think you'll like this YouTube vid I found on the 777...bad music though...lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wx5VKpZy0KQ

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I don't have a favourite but I always thought the Hawker Hunter was one of the most beautiful jet fighters ever built. It held the speed record for a short period and at one time the two used by the Boscombe Down test pilot school were the only swept wing aircraft in the world to be regularly spun inverted. Maybe they still are.

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DOP as a fan of the 707, you might be interested in this if you haven't seen it already.

The 707 was overbuilt which is why it made a fine Airforce One for so many years even when newer, larger aircraft were available. The B-47 could also roll and loop...but not the B-52 with much higher wingloads. There's a vid at YouTube of one banking way too far...with tragic results.

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There are only two emotions in a plane: boredom and terror.

---Orson Welles

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A b-2 Bomber flying low over Moscow with 2 city busters on it.

Just don't get it wet.

Capt. Justin Grieve knew something was wrong as soon as the B-2 Spirit left the ground.

Within seconds, water in the sensors caused the $1.2 billion bomber to spiral out of the control of Grieve, who was flying in the mission command seat, and pilot Maj. Ryan Link. They were on their way back to the 509th Bomb Wing, home of the B-2 bomber at Whiteman Air Force Base, Mo.

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The 707 was overbuilt which is why it made a fine Airforce One for so many years even when newer, larger aircraft were available. The B-47 could also roll and loop...but not the B-52 with much higher wingloads. There's a vid at YouTube of one banking way too far...with tragic results.

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There are only two emotions in a plane: boredom and terror.

---Orson Welles

The 707 was very well built yes but BOAC had one break up in clear air turbulance over Mt. Fuji in 1966.

The B52 video is no longe available on YouTube. I'm damn near positive that B47 clip is from the movie Strategic Air Command starring Jimmy Stewart.

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The 707 was very well built yes but BOAC had one break up in clear air turbulance over Mt. Fuji in 1966.

The B52 video is no longe available on YouTube. I'm damn near positive that B47 clip is from the movie Strategic Air Command starring Jimmy Stewart.

Indeed it is. Jimmy could actually fly those things...and B-36s. He was on a few B-52 missions in Viet-Nam as well as B-58 speed record runs. But then JS was a full General in the USAF and flew bombers back in WW2.

I'll dig up another link to that other vid...

re:707 Even the best can crash...for silly reasons at times as Black Dog points out.

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You may have already seen this or I may have posted it before but this is one of my favourite videos.Low Pass

DOP. I see you were taken buy the DeHavilland Dragon. Neat aircraft and a pretty good performer for its type and era in spite of its looks. They were used by the old Canadian Airways which was one of the carriers that became Canadian Pacific Airlines. I have a maintenance manual for a Dragon Rapide that I bought from an old ex CA mechanic back in the sixties. Bit dog eared and fragile but you could still use it.

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Here's that B-52 video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E21byPXR1ek

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You may have already seen this or I may have posted it before but this is one of my favourite videos.Low Pass

DOP. I see you were taken buy the DeHavilland Dragon. Neat aircraft and a pretty good performer for its type and era in spite of its looks. They were used by the old Canadian Airways which was one of the carriers that became Canadian Pacific Airlines. I have a maintenance manual for a Dragon Rapide that I bought from an old ex CA mechanic back in the sixties. Bit dog eared and fragile but you could still use it.

Cool beans. Yes, I have a passion for the oddballs. I have a similar manual for the early Flying Fortress as issued to the RAF (Fortress Mk1, B-17C)...but in which box?? :lol::unsure::lol: Moved a few times since I last saw it...uh oh.

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Re: Low Pass. Try this one...make sure the sound is on.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=kDmfvqQHF10

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Man: Oooooooooooooooooo!!!!

Instructor: No it's more an Owwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!! Let's try it again...

[hits man on head] Whack!!!!

Man: Owwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!

Instructor: That's it! That's it!!!

---Getting Hit on Your Head Lessons: Monty Python

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