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Unanswered Questions on the Spill

BP, seems to have been slow to ask for help, and, on Friday, both federal and state officials accused it of not moving aggressively or swiftly enough. Yet the administration should not have waited, and should have intervened much more quickly on its own initiative.

Now we have another disaster in more or less the same neck of the woods, and it takes the administration more than a week to really get moving.

The timetable is damning.

The New York Times

Former NOAA oil spill cleanup boss says Obama waited too long in Gulf disaster

Why didn't federal officials implement an oil spill clean up plan they've had on the books since 1994 as soon as possible after crude began pumping into the Gulf of Mexico following the explosion and sinking of BP's Deepwater Horizon drilling platform 53 miles south of Louisiana in the Gulf of Mexico?

Washington Examiner

A containable accident, then suddenly a crisis

For days, as an oil spill spread in the Gulf of Mexico, BP assured the government the plume was manageable, not catastrophic. Federal authorities were content to let the company handle the mess while keeping an eye on the operation.

AP

Obama talks as oil laps at Gulf of Mexico shore

Mr Obama laid the responsibility for the disaster firmly at the door of BP, which owns the leaking well and operated the stricken rig, refusing to countenance any notion that his government had dropped the ball.

AFP

SPIN METER: There since Day One? Maybe not

WASHINGTON – To hear Obama administration officials tell it, they've been fully engaged on the Gulf Coast oil spill since Day One, bringing every resource to bear and able to ensure without question that taxpayers will be protected.

Not quite.

The administration's evolving rhetoric reflects not only the increasing seriousness of the spill itself, but its determination to be seen as responsive from the get-go and to squelch comparisons to the Bush administration's slow-footed response to Hurricane Katrina.

It's only natural that administration officials would adjust their response as the spill worsened and its seriousness became evident. But they invite judgment when claiming they responded at 100 percent starting Day One to an incident whose magnitude was not yet apparent, or when black-and-white assertions about taxpayer protections turn out to be tinged with gray.

AP

I think this is the most significant question for the Obama administration and the President. Why didn't they implement an oil spill clean up plan that's been on the books since 1994 as soon as possible after crude began pumping into the Gulf of Mexico?

They completely dropped the ball. And now this oil spill is going to end up being much worse than it had to be. Perhaps spending Saturday evening telling jokes wasn't the most suitable use of a President's time. :rolleyes:

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Hey Crazy right wing 1800 people died in Katrina, neither:

H1N1 flu

Fort Hood shootings

Kentucky Ice storms

Haiti earthquake

GM bankruptcy

Christmas Day Underwear Bomber

Housing policies in Chicago (No kidding)

Or this are like Katrina, sorry Bush sucked so much stop trying to make Obama out to be as bad. 1800 people DIED cause his Bush's inaction. Keep it up.

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....Or this are like Katrina, sorry Bush sucked so much stop trying to make Obama out to be as bad. 1800 people DIED cause his Bush's inaction. Keep it up.

Right....George W. Bush was so powerful he can actually cause hurricanes! No wonder you are so afraid of him long after he left office.

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Right....George W. Bush was so powerful he can actually cause hurricanes! No wonder you are so afraid of him long after he left office.

He can listen when there is one and people tell him to evacuate. He can listen when people told him the levees were not up to snuff. He could have declared a state emergency for the coastal parishes. He could have lead instead of eating birthday cake.

BP, NOAA, NASA — no organization could have predicted the oil rig accident.

Hurricane Katrina had been predicted weeks beforehand. There was plenty of warning, it was hurricane season, and researchers could see the hurricane approach landfall.

BP oil rig explosion — 11 dead

Hurricane Katrina — 1,500 dead

BP oil rig explosion — Federal Government/POTUS response: same-day dispatch of Coast Guard and high-ranking official to determine nature and extent of damage

Hurricane Katrina — Federal Government/POTUS response: Bush flew to McCain's to celebrate birthday party

Bush waited 5 days to get back to work while Obama was on the job.

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He can listen when there is one and people tell him to evacuate. He can listen when people told him the levees were not up to snuff. He could have declared a state emergency for the coastal parishes. He could have lead instead of eating birthday cake.

He could also defer to state and local officials who actually have that responsibility. State of emergency was declared by state and Feds on Aug 26/27 2005.

BP, NOAA, NASA — no organization could have predicted the oil rig accident.

Nonsense...why do you think they have BOPs installed?

Hurricane Katrina had been predicted weeks beforehand. There was plenty of warning, it was hurricane season, and researchers could see the hurricane approach landfall.

...yet hundreds of school buses remained parked during the evacuation.

BP oil rig explosion — 11 dead

Hurricane Katrina — 1,500 dead

Make up your lying mind...is it 1800 or 1500?

BP oil rig explosion — Federal Government/POTUS response: same-day dispatch of Coast Guard and high-ranking official to determine nature and extent of damage

Big deal....Obama didn't fly there....nor does he have to.

Hurricane Katrina — Federal Government/POTUS response: Bush flew to McCain's to celebrate birthday party

Bush waited 5 days to get back to work while Obama was on the job.

Same as Obama.

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I'll wait till I find out more info before I pass judgement, but it seems there's plenty of blame to go around, including at the Obama administration.

Oh no...please don't pass judgement on us poor po' 'merkins! We surely cannot survive such a fate.

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He could also defer to state and local officials who actually have that responsibility. State of emergency was declared by state and Feds on Aug 26/27 2005.

Ummmm you clearly show you know nothing again Bush did defer and the Governor asked him to declare a state of emergency for ALL COASTAL PARISHES. Which Bush didn't do, he later LIED to the US people and said the governor never asked him, congress struck up an investigation and released the governor letter which showed Bush a fuddle duddle. Oh and Liar. Unlike Obama who has been working with the state governments from day one. YOU KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AND AS SUCH you opinions mean nothing.

Here is the letter. Why didn't Bush LISTEN to the governor like Obama is? Why did he not send help to these parishes? Why were those people less important.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/27/national/nationalspecial/27text-brown.html?_r=1&ei=5070&en=eda6637e28de37c1&ex=1188792000&pagewanted=all

http://jjic.gov.state.la.us/Disaster%20Relief%20Request.pdf

To call this Obama's Katrina is just sick 1800 people died because of Bush.

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....To call this Obama's Katrina is just sick 1800 people died because of Bush.

Sure they did....all died because of Bush. And any fatalities due to hurricanes, tornadoes, flooding, forest fires, or other disaster are directly the responsibility of the siting US president. Ergo....Obama is responsible (your logic).

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Sure they did....all died because of Bush. And any fatalities due to hurricanes, tornadoes, flooding, forest fires, or other disaster are directly the responsibility of the siting US president. Ergo....Obama is responsible (your logic).

Nope but plenty died cause of inaction, which isn't something you can say of Obama.

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Nope but plenty died cause of inaction, which isn't something you can say of Obama.

But you say all die because of Bush.....so all die because of Obama too....and Clinton....and Bush Sr....and Reagan....and Carter...and Ford....and Nixon....all killed with hurricane. Amazing logic!

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But you say all die because of Bush.....so all die because of Obama too....and Clinton....and Bush Sr....and Reagan....and Carter...and Ford....and Nixon....all killed with hurricane. Amazing logic!

Nope sorry does not follow.

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Nope sorry does not follow.

Obama kill all kids shot in Chicago since Feb 2009....why he no care? Obama kill all coal miners who die last month...why he no care? Obama kill so many Americans each day...why he no care?

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I'll wait till I find out more info before I pass judgement, but it seems there's plenty of blame to go around, including at the Obama administration.

To be honest with you, I'd give Obama a pass the first couple of days as BP downplayed the extent of the situation.

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To be honest with you, I'd give Obama a pass the first couple of days as BP downplayed the extent of the situation.

I wouldn't. The government should be on the scene ASAP to make sure it's being contained properly, and not rely on some company's spin. That may require more regulation and oversight than some may like, but oh well.

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Despite a response plan that calls for fire booms to contain oil spills, the federal government did not have any fire booms ready to help contain the leak that is spewing oil into the Gulf of Mexico.

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What the hell??? :angry:

It took eight days to secure a fire boom for the Deepwater Horizon well disaster. The government had to ship it from Illinois.

Heckuva job Obamee!

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I think this is the most significant question for the Obama administration and the President. Why didn't they implement an oil spill clean up plan that's been on the books since 1994 as soon as possible after crude began pumping into the Gulf of Mexico?

They completely dropped the ball. And now this oil spill is going to end up being much worse than it had to be. Perhaps spending Saturday evening telling jokes wasn't the most suitable use of a President's time. :rolleyes:

This line of crap keeps getting spread. The fact is that there were high winds, which pretty much meant booms would have been useless. The booms they had in place weren't containing the slick because wind drives the water and oil over top.

You're the best example of a brain-dead partisan. It's almost as if you've carved out most of your brain and replaced it with this pathetic hatred for the current President. You must be an absolute drag at dinner parties... "Oh there comes Shady... I know, but I have to invite him, he's my brother-in-law... Yeah, I'll put the castor oil in his drink."

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This line of crap keeps getting spread.

What exactly is crap? The fact that the federal government didn't have any fire booms ready? Or the fact that it took them 8 days to find one? Which fact is crap?

The fact is that there were high winds, which pretty much meant booms would have been useless.

Now that's crap! :lol:

What does "pretty much" have been useless mean? Not entirely? How does that help your point? Besides the fact that there weren't high winds for 8 days! Stop making excuses.

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What does "pretty much" have been useless mean? Not entirely? How does that help your point? Besides the fact that there weren't high winds for 8 days! Stop making excuses.

Booms only are really effective in relatively calm waters (such as bays and the like) or in limited spills. We're talking about a well head that's vomiting thousands of litres of oil an hour at a depth of nearly a mile, with all sorts of intervening currents driving the oil all over the place as it rises. There is simply no way to contain that spill. It would have been like condemning George W. Bush for not holding back the winds of Hurricane Katrina.

The second the cutoff systems failed as the drill sunk and tore the the pipes to pieces, this was an uncontrollable disaster. The only solution was and still is to find a way to cap that well, or to at least capture the oil (as they appear to be ready to do by tomorrow or Friday).

This is the underlying problem with offshore drilling at these depths. A catastrophe is very rare, but if it happens, then it is a catastrophe of monumental proportions, because there is simply no reasonable way to stop the vast majority of that oil getting picked up by the currents and driven for hundreds or thousands of square miles. There's no boom that could be big enough to contain it, even if the Gulf of Mexico was as still as a goldfish pond. Add in the bad weather that has hampered all operations up until the last day or so, and you'll rapidly see that booms are utterly futile.

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