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The Conservative government’s Russian doll budget legislation is starting to generate opposition from within its own ranks.

David Wilks, the rookie MP for Kootney- Columbia, may be so back-bench he’s in danger of falling off, yet he already knows long careers in politics are not founded on further aggravating angry local voters. At a meeting in Revelstoke, he reportedly told people protesting against the omnibus budget bill that he would vote against C-38, if 12 other Conservatives voted alongside him

Unfortunately, before you could say“career-limiting move” he was compelled to “clarify” his comments by saying he now supports the bill.

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/full-comment/blog.html?b=fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/05/23/john-ivison-criticism-by-conservative-mp-shows-depth-of-unease-over-omnibus-budget-bill

:lol:

Of course ... but obviously the idea is out there ... :)

13 Tories could turn this ship around!

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/full-comment/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/2012/05/23/candid-tory-mp-comments-caught-on-camera-suggest-internal-backbench-dissent-over-conservative-omnibus-budget

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Sorry. I should clarify. By "never going to happen," I mean there isn't a chance in hell this will happen.

It will if enough constituents convince their MP's !

I think there's a large number of people, especially in Ontario, who held their nose and voted for Harper as the only conservative option, who would support MP's in withdrawing from the party. Obviously, they don't vote against Harper's wishes and expect to stay in the party, but they can withdraw and sit as Independents or form their own (eg) Progressive Conservative party.

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Looks like the Idea was never "really out there"..

The Conservative government’s Russian doll budget legislation is starting to generate opposition from within its own ranks.

David Wilks, the rookie MP for Kootney- Columbia, may be so back-bench he’s in danger of falling off, yet he already knows long careers in politics are not founded on further aggravating angry local voters. At a meeting in Revelstoke, he reportedly told people protesting against the omnibus budget bill that he would vote against C-38, if 12 other Conservatives voted alongside him

Unfortunately, before you could say“career-limiting move” he was compelled to “clarify” his comments by saying he now supports the bill.

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/full-comment/blog.html?b=fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/05/23/john-ivison-criticism-by-conservative-mp-shows-depth-of-unease-over-omnibus-budget-bill

:lol:

Of course ... but obviously the idea is out there ... :)

13 Tories could turn this ship around!

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/full-comment/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/2012/05/23/candid-tory-mp-comments-caught-on-camera-suggest-internal-backbench-dissent-over-conservative-omnibus-budget

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The only thing out there today seems tb be the conspiracy theorists..

The idea was out there Fletch, but Wilks was silenced by Dear Leader...

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Sure looks like Rasemary Barton and the Sulomon guy are adding alot of thier own bias or context.. I wouldnt even call that a "flip flop"! Both Soloman and Barton have had a hate-on for Steve Harper and his democratically aopointed Majority since they cut funding to the CBC and axed the show with thier pal Mark Kelly.. But back to your point.. I cant even call this a "flip flop"...

http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/ID=2238486044

Try again...

Or shall we just consider him a flip flopper...

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I bet the guy still has whiplash.

The idea's still out there though ...

I wonder how Wilks' constituents feel after having put their faces out there too?

True blue Harper Conservatives notwithstanding, it should be a little humiliating to Canadians everywhere to have our elected dictatorship rubbed in our noses as flagrantly as it's been with this omnibus budget.

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You call it a dictatorship, me and the majority that back him call it a Democratically apointed Majority leader and we LIKE it! We like a guy that can keep his word and grow the economy..

I wonder how Wilks' constituents feel after having put their faces out there too?

True blue Harper Conservatives notwithstanding, it should be a little humiliating to Canadians everywhere to have our elected dictatorship rubbed in our noses as flagrantly as it's been with this omnibus budget.

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You call it a dictatorship, me and the majority that back him call it a Democratically apointed Majority leader and we LIKE it! We like a guy that can keep his word and grow the economy..

There is no "majority" backing Harper.

He has an artificial majority of seats in parliament that's a function of targeted campaigning, revealing a gaping weakness in our outdated 'first past the post' method of election.

How could Harper possibly have the support of the "majority" of Canadians when only selectively chosen ones are even allowed to go and hear him speak? :lol:

Even a majority elected (not "appointed") leader can be opposed by the people. It's not a free ticket. It is, in fact and in law, an oppportunity for a party to lead a government that can sustain the confidence of the people ... an opportunity and nothing more.

And if a party attains that majority fraudulently, it's pretty much certain that they won't retain the confidence of the people, or Parliament.

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Really? Ahhhh yes, blame it on democracy and a broken system when YOUR guys dont get elected... Im sure it was ok when Cretien was in??

There is no "majority" backing Harper.

He has an artificial majority of seats in parliament that's a function of targeted campaigning, revealing a gaping weakness in our outdated 'first past the post' method of election.

How could Harper possibly have the support of the "majority" of Canadians when only selectively chosen ones are even allowed to go and hear him speak? :lol:

Even a majority elected (not "appointed") leader can be opposed by the people. It's not a free ticket. It is, in fact and in law, an oppportunity for a party to lead a government that can sustain the confidence of the people ... an opportunity and nothing more.

And if a party attains that majority fraudulently, it's pretty much certain that they won't retain the confidence of the people, or Parliament.

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Really? Ahhhh yes, blame it on democracy and a broken system when YOUR guys dont get elected...

There are many forms of democracy. Most other countries have recognized the limitations of FPTP and implemented some form of proportionate representation by now.

Im sure it was ok when Cretien was in??

Chretien? My 'guys'? :lol:

Surely you jest!

Do the HarperCons have no higher aspirations than to be as bad as the scandal-ridden Liberals?

We got rid of them, didn't we!

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Um Yes, and ALL of those with proportional representation are FAILING and DEFAULTING! You really should read the news.. Try to stay away from those Blogs that your keep refering everyone too..

There are many forms of democracy. Most other countries have recognized the limitations of FPTP and implemented some form of proportionate representation by now.

Chretien? My 'guys'? :lol:

Surely you jest!

Do the HarperCons have no higher aspirations than to be as bad as the scandal-ridden Liberals?

We got rid of them, didn't we!

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You call it a dictatorship, me and the majority that back him call it a Democratically apointed Majority leader and we LIKE it! We like a guy that can keep his word and grow the economy..

The majority of people don't back Harper.

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The majority of people don't back Harper.

you got that right. the liberals were no better. we need an ndp federal goverment so that every canadian citizen can have equal access to wealth. why should a silver spooner drive an escalade while i have to drive my cavalier. enough greed in this country. lets give everyone an equal opportunity, an equal chance to be prosperous.

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you got that right. the liberals were no better. we need an ndp federal goverment so that every canadian citizen can have equal access to wealth. why should a silver spooner drive an escalade while i have to drive my cavalier. enough greed in this country. lets give everyone an equal opportunity, an equal chance to be prosperous.

This ought to be interesting. A poster that's further left than me. Welcome to the board.

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This ought to be interesting. A poster that's further left than me. Welcome to the board.

thanks for the welcome. we need to make changes in this country cybercoma. im with you.

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I have to agree with Cybercoma on this one.

But stories like this just show that the conservatives are going to have a real hard time in a few years come election time!

What really surprises me is that no conservative MPs have jumped ship yet?

WWWTT

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