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There is nothing interesting about Peter King one of the misinformed congressmen in the US saying anything. This is the man who thinks fact checkers are out to get him because he doesn't care about facts.

Fine you don't like Fox. I am no fan of them either.

But that is exactly how it played out if you payed attention. The Obama clan is backing away from the whole spontaneous angle of these attacks. They were planned and coordinated.

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Fine you don't like Fox. I am no fan of them either.

But that is exactly how it played out if you payed attention. The Obama clan is backing away from the whole spontaneous angle of these attacks. They were planned and coordinated.

Yah they were planned and coordinated. Rachel Maddow blew that story open the day after it happened. Maybe if you guys watched some real news you would have been on this weeks ago.

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Yah they were planned and coordinated. Rachel Maddow blew that story open the day after it happened. Maybe if you guys watched some real news you would have been on this weeks ago.

I indicated that a few pages back as well, but just looks like it was ignored.

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Yah they were planned and coordinated. Rachel Maddow blew that story open the day after it happened. Maybe if you guys watched some real news you would have been on this weeks ago.

Why did the administration completely lie then? Why did they continually claim it was a spontaneous protest over a video, when within 24 hours after the fact, they knew it was a terrorist attack? Susan Rice went on every sunday show last week claiming it was the video. Jay Carney the press secretary claimed for all of last week, that it was because of the video. Why have they misinformed the public? And why haven't the FBI not investigated the crime scene yet? It's been 2 weeks, and they're still not in Bengazi.

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Fine you don't like Fox. I am no fan of them either.

But that is exactly how it played out if you payed attention. The Obama clan is backing away from the whole spontaneous angle of these attacks. They were planned and coordinated.

The Obama administration had reasons for wanting the attacks to appear to be spontaneous. Any other outcome demonstrates a failure of competence, intelligence or both.
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Why did the administration completely lie then? Why did they continually claim it was a spontaneous protest over a video, when within 24 hours after the fact, they knew it was a terrorist attack? Susan Rice went on every sunday show last week claiming it was the video. Jay Carney the press secretary claimed for all of last week, that it was because of the video. Why have they misinformed the public? And why haven't the FBI not investigated the crime scene yet? It's been 2 weeks, and they're still not in Bengazi.

Why did Fox not report on the story? Why was MSNBC the only ones reporting what actually happened Shady? It was the best story and the one that made the most sense at the time. Although as details became clear the story clearly changed although Rice as a duty to update the American people with the information that they have at the time.

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Why did Fox not report on the story? Why was MSNBC the only ones reporting what actually happened Shady? It was the best story and the one that made the most sense at the time.

Try as you might, this isn't about Fox, it's about the Obama administration purposely misleading people on the details of the attack.

Although as details became clear the story clearly changed although Rice as a duty to update the American people with the information that they have at the time.

She lied. She went on the Sunday shows, and put forth a premise that within the administration knew was false. She has some explaining to do. As do others.

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Try as you might, this isn't about Fox, it's about the Obama administration purposely misleading people on the details of the attack.

She lied. She went on the Sunday shows, and put forth a premise that within the administration knew was false. She has some explaining to do. As do others.

Someone is on their high horse today. Your side lies about "facts" in Iraq and start a whole war. Yet never once have you said that was a big deal. The white house is 4 days behind on their facts and you jump all over them. Give me a break Shady. Someone else besides you needs to be making this point because right now all I can do is roll my eyes.

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Try as you might, this isn't about Fox, it's about the Obama administration purposely misleading people on the details of the attack.

She lied. She went on the Sunday shows, and put forth a premise that within the administration knew was false. She has some explaining to do. As do others.

See Commentary Magazine (link) on this subject:

As the Times headline makes clear, this is no small scandal. What’s really troubling here is not so much that U.S. intelligence failed to prevent the attack but the sense, reinforced by the weeks of deceptive statements about these events, that no one in the Obama administration was prepared to talk about terrorism because doing so undercuts the Democratic campaign narrative about bin Laden’s death and victory over al Qaeda. It was bad enough that this message was being conveyed to the country before the Libya attack but the stubborn persistence with which the president’s foreign policy team and spokespersons continued to claim that the trouble was an Internet video critical of Islam rather than an Al Qaeda offensive fatally undermines their credibility.
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Hundreds of Libyans hand over their weapons

BENGHAZI, Libya -- Hundreds of Libyans converged Saturday on a main square in Benghazi and another in Tripoli in response to a call from the military to hand over their weapons, some driving in with armoured personnel carriers, tanks, vehicles with mounted anti-aircraft guns and hundreds of rocket launchers.

The call by the Libyan chiefs of staff was promoted on a private TV station in August. But it may have gained traction in the wake of the attack against the U.S. consulate in Benghazi in which the American ambassador and three staffers were killed.

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"I don't need this weapon after today, the militias have been expelled from Benghazi and the national army will protect us."

Anger at the militias boiled over after the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. consulate.

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Last weekend, thousands of protesters marched against the militias in Benghazi, the cradle of the uprising against Gadhafi, and stormed two of their compounds.

In Tripoli, at least 200 former fighters handed over their weapons, including two tanks, at the Martyrs' square in the city centre. A cleric urged young fighters to give up their weapons. "The nation is built with knowledge not guns," he said standing in the square.

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Hundreds of Libyans hand over their weapons

BENGHAZI, Libya -- Hundreds of Libyans converged Saturday on a main square in Benghazi and another in Tripoli in response to a call from the military to hand over their weapons, some driving in with armoured personnel carriers, tanks, vehicles with mounted anti-aircraft guns and hundreds of rocket launchers.

The call by the Libyan chiefs of staff was promoted on a private TV station in August. But it may have gained traction in the wake of the attack against the U.S. consulate in Benghazi in which the American ambassador and three staffers were killed.

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"I don't need this weapon after today, the militias have been expelled from Benghazi and the national army will protect us."

Anger at the militias boiled over after the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. consulate.

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Last weekend, thousands of protesters marched against the militias in Benghazi, the cradle of the uprising against Gadhafi, and stormed two of their compounds.

In Tripoli, at least 200 former fighters handed over their weapons, including two tanks, at the Martyrs' square in the city centre. A cleric urged young fighters to give up their weapons. "The nation is built with knowledge not guns," he said standing in the square.

Libya was built on knowledge, it was destroyed by guns.

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Looks like the mainstream media is finally starting to focus on Libya...

The foreign policy debate Obama doesn’t want

It’s embarrassing when President Obama’s risk-averse refusal to engage on foreign policy issues becomes so obvious that it’s a laugh line for the president of Iran.

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Less than six weeks before the election, the Obama campaign’s theme song might as well be the old country-music favorite “Make the World Go Away.” This may be smart politics, but it’s not good governing.

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This strategy of avoiding major foreign policy risks or decisions may help get Obama reelected. But he is robbing the country of a debate it needs to have — and denying himself the public understanding and support he will need to be an effective foreign policy president in a second term, if the “rope-a-dope” campaign should prove successful.

Washington Post

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Looks like the mainstream media is finally starting to focus on Libya...

Can not wait for Republicans to go into a foreign policy debate with Romney. Please keep pushing this one team red you keep playing to Obama strengths because you still think you are running against the "Clint Eastwood invisible Chair Obama" instead of the actual president. Romney can't even not offend London the Last thing America needs is that man talking about the problems in the Middle East it will end with WW3.

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The truth prevails. I said at the time that any that thought the 9-11 attacks were other than a celebration of 9-11 were fools. The ebntire attack was (as I said) co ordinated and planned, not spontaneously arising out of a silly little film.

A couple of heads should roll.

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So anyways. I had suspicions that the 'embassy' or 'consulate' never existed. Thanks to another MLW member for this link.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-letting-us-in-on-a-secret/2012/10/10/ba3136ca-132b-11e2-ba83-a7a396e6b2a7_story.html?hpid=z7

Through their outbursts, cryptic language and boneheaded questioning of State Department officials, the committee members left little doubt that one of the two compounds at which the Americans were killed, described by the administration as a “consulate” and a nearby “annex,” was a CIA base. They did this, helpfully, in a televised public hearing.

I guess there is a reason why I could not find any official information on the site. I did enough searching, and there was no information on the gov websites I checked.

Looks like what we call a 'false flag' operation.

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The United States just put all of its expats in serious danger. If they've labelled a CIA base as a consulate or embassy, then nations that are worried about defending themselves against US espionage now have a pretense to invade or attack consulates and embassies in their country.

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The United States just put all of its expats in serious danger. If they've labelled a CIA base as a consulate or embassy, then nations that are worried about defending themselves against US espionage now have a pretense to invade or attack consulates and embassies in their country.

This is not the first time this kind of thing has happened. Since this does seem like a CIA base, this would be confirmation that the CIA was operating within Libya. For how long, that would be another question.

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The ambassador was requesting additional security where ever he was visiting/staying/travelling. The fact of the matter is, it was denied, then where he was at was attacked and he and others were killed in a military like operation. The CIA stuff is speculation, and besides the point. Do you want to guess how many nations Russia has spy operatives in? Or China? Or Britian, etc?

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