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How does this work exactly? Colorado and Washington State are just not going to enforce federal law, but the DEA still has to?

AFAIK, that's correct. The DEA and FBI will still be after you.

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It's been decriminalized in some places - same as Canada.

Canada has no mechanism for decriminalizing things in some places and not others. The Criminal Code is a federal document that applies to the entire country. Court decisions can create precedents in certain provinces over others, but that doesn't change the law, just enforcement and litigation.

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That again though, isn't completely accurate. Federal law in the US makes marijuana completely illegal, for medical use, or otherwise. It doesn't matter what the states say, because the federal law is above that.

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And that map is wrong. It shows it legal in Oregon, but not Washington State. It was Washington that legalized it. It failed in Oregon. Someone must have been high when they made it.

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Their system of government is more democratic than ours, hence free. Our PM, if he has a majority, has more power to dictate his will on the nation. The American president has to work with 2 houses of politicians which weakens his power. We have more red tape, taxes and regulations which clutter up our lives.

Theoretically yes,practically no.

Politics in the US is a millionaires club,the chance of any Joe Blow or Jane Do entering politics is slim.

I interpret a countries freedom as the ability as one of its average citizens realistically successfully entering into this arena.Fat chance in US!

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Another reason why Canada loves America...

When you write "Canada",I think you mean Canadian "conservatives".Or Steven Harper

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Theoretically yes,practically no.

Politics in the US is a millionaires club,the chance of any Joe Blow or Jane Do entering politics is slim.

I interpret a countries freedom as the ability as one of its average citizens realistically successfully entering into this arena.Fat chance in US!

You might want to look into the backgrounds of some of the presidents. They aren't all born with a silver spoon in their mouth.

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These are good points, and I mostly agree with you – although I could debate either side.

Here are some points that support the idea that Canada is freer than the USA:

-730 of 100,000 people in the US are incarcerated, vs. 114 in Canada

-On average Canadians are safer than Americans (freedom from fear)

-There is a higher poverty rate in the US than in Canada (freedom from want)

-The average legal drinking age in the US is higher than in Canada

-I would guess that there is more freedom to smoke marijuana in Canada than in the US

-There is more tolerance of homosexuals in Canada

-You are freer to get an abortion in Canada

Also, historically, Americans fled to Canada due to slavery and the Draft.

Canada is bigger in land area.

Canada is wealthier than the USA on many per capita metrics. The USA has a much larger debt than Canada. Canada is wealthier in terms of natural resources.

Excellent job on proving why Canada is the more "Democratic" state!

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You might want to look into the backgrounds of some of the presidents. They aren't all born with a silver spoon in their mouth.

Good point, but it is lost on those with existing bias and agenda. How many Canadians can become the ruling monarch and head-of-state ? biggrin.png

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What the hell? Pot smokers have more rights in Iran. haha

Of course hundreds of people are executed in Iran for drug offenses, but pot smokers have more rights - so haha.

Sad - and telling - that y'all have to resort to pot smoking to criticize "freedom in the U.S." over others' freedoms.

Edited to add: For the record: they have more rights that in Canada, too.

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Still, it remains a puzzle as to why more Canadians emigrate to the United States than do Americans to Canada, and the U.S. has TEN TIMES the population. Freer....better....but not able to keep the best and the brightest at home. Explain this please.....

Because Canadians are more free to leave the country!

Your slipping.Your not on your game today buddy,the bush_cheney2004 I remember wouldn't usually write obvious mistakes like this,or maybe he would?

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Because Canadians are more free to leave the country!

There are more Americans traveling and living abroad than Canadians. There are more Americans in the entire universe compared to Canadians. laugh.png

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I wonder why so many want to leave?

I wonder why WWWTT thinks that they're more free to leave.

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You might want to look into the backgrounds of some of the presidents. They aren't all born with a silver spoon in their mouth.

Yes its called inflation,maybe you heard of it?

As well the US used to be more free,not any more.

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Of course hundreds of people are executed in Iran for drug offenses, but pot smokers have more rights - so haha.

Sad - and telling - that y'all have to resort to pot smoking to criticize "freedom in the U.S." over others' freedoms.

Edited to add: For the record: they have more rights that in Canada, too.

I was talking about them having more rights in Iran than Canada, despite Iran executing people for stupid reasons. That's hilarious.

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I wonder why WWWTT thinks that they're more free to leave.

First off,you can not enter Canada if you are a criminal.The US has Canada beat there hands down!

In my experience people whom have a higher level of education tend to leave their country more easily.

I am sure with a little more thought I can come up with a couple more?

I hope that helps.

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American Woman, on 07 November 2012 - 03:08 PM, said: You might want to look into the backgrounds of some of the presidents. They aren't all born with a silver spoon in their mouth.

Yes its called inflation,maybe you heard of it?

What?? What does inflation have to do with it??

As well the US used to be more free,not any more.

Um. Yes, it is. ;)

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There are more Americans in the entire universe compared to Canadians. laugh.png

Ya so what?

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