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I've never seen or been put on one of these waiting lists. Getting the medical care you need when you need it is the norm in Canada.

Perhaps, but that is an altogether different idea from getting the medical care you want when you want it. The wait time situation for some VA regions is the very criticism that is levied against a universal, single payer, "Canadian style" system by many Americans.

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No, I'm just having fun with yet another stupid ass "America Sucks!" health care thread.

I don't care what Canadians do for health care, but apparently whatever the Americans do is very very very very important to some Canadians....still waiting in line.

But when Canadian are in a ambulance they are taken to the nearest hospital. In america and you are uninsured the ambulance drives around trying to find one that will take the patient.

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I've never seen or been put on one of these waiting lists. Getting the medical care you need when you need it is the norm in Canada.

Really? I had to wait 6 months to see an allergy specialist.

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But when Canadian are in a ambulance they are taken to the nearest hospital. In america and you are uninsured the ambulance drives around trying to find one that will take the patient.

Even if that were true (it isn't)...so what ? Health care services are rationed in the U.S. based on the ability to pay, and that means public and private funding. It means more options, excess capacity, and less waiting. Why are Canadians waiting so long for routine procedures and tests....the U.S. Veterans Administration knows why.

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Even if that were true (it isn't)...so what ? Health care services are rationed in the U.S. based on the ability to pay, and that means public and private funding. It means more options, excess capacity, and less waiting. Why are Canadians waiting so long for routine procedures and tests....the U.S. Veterans Administration knows why.

It is true. We wait for non important stuff. I broke my neck in 2 places and had surgery to fix it, cost me nothing.

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It is true. We wait for non important stuff. I broke my neck in 2 places and had surgery to fix it, cost me nothing.

No...it cost you plenty..and you will keep paying for it too. You accept that your government will decide what is important and what is not. So you wait....

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I tore my knee up on a camping trip, "bucket handle tear of the medial miniscus". (Whatever the hell that is, I just know it hurt) Certainly not life threatening. I limped around for a day and then went back to town. Next day I limped into a "limp in" clinic, was sent straight to a public clinic for Xray. Two days later I was in hospital for surgery and now I'm right back into my jogging schedule. I certainly have no complaints with our system.

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I can change from one "corrupt" insurance company to another...the same "corrupt" government is forever.

For most people they just have to quit their job and find a new employer who uses a different one. No problem.

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For most people they just have to quit their job and find a new employer who uses a different one. No problem.

That's one option, but there are many others available in the market. It's not illegal to buy health insurance from anywhere one chooses.

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As PIK has pointed out, we wait for non-important stuff so we don't have to wait for important stuff. And he didn't go broke getting his neck fixed.

haven't checked into this thread for several days... see the wait-time deflector is still at it! Giddyup! As I've highlighted in the past (pointedly using the Ontario prostate cancer wait list example) our wait lists have degrees of attached risk assessment/urgency of treatment within them... and, of course, no one needing immediate urgent treatment is put on any waitlist.

the wait-time deflector still attempts to deflect away from the comparative country 'dead last/near the bottom' positioning the U.S. finds itself in!

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But when Canadian are in a ambulance they are taken to the nearest hospital. In america and you are uninsured the ambulance drives around trying to find one that will take the patient.

Yes and I can add to that. A friend of mine flies air ambulance in the states and he was bemoaning a new law that was enacted in his state that says if for instance you do a scene call (i.e. traffic accident) and you take a patient and fly over a hospital to get to the hospital that owns the chopper it is a criminal offense and even the pilot can be charged. How stupid is that? I used to do the same job in Canada and the only decision about which hospital to go to was based on the patients injuries. i.e. a burn unit etc. And guess what, our patients didn't have to pay for the helicopter time. At least not directly.

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cradle to grave... "cash is king" will decide who in "America", such as it is, receives adequate/proper health care and medical treatment!

And with some of the highest wealth inequalities in the OECD, why not have cash decide who gets health care and who doesn't? Health care isn't a human right. It's a privilege. If you want to get seen by a doctor, get out there and make some money. I don't give a crap how sick you are.

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I've found the superiority of the Canadian system is very, very upsetting to a lot of people down south. I have crazy tea-party cousins that also try and find any negative information about the Canadian system that they can, just to reassure themselves they aren't completely being taken for fools.

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