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From Tarek Fatah at the Toronto Sun:

 

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The fear of many Muslims that the mixing of state and religion would cause irreparable damage to our society, and that the loudspeaker had absolutely nothing to do with Islam, fell on deaf ears. We Muslims who stood up to some of the medievalists within our ranks found ourselves being labelled as ‘Islamophobes’ by the country’s left-liberal and even conservative political establishments.

We didn’t have to wait too long for our worst fears to be realized.

On May 16, one Firas Al Najim gave his own call to prayer using a loudspeaker in the parking lot of the Jaffari Islamic Centre in the City of Vaughan, where he promoted the views of the Iraqi cleric Ayatollah al-Sistani and then launched into tirade against “Zionists.”

Al Najim claimed that at the Jaffari Islamic Centre, “the majority of the followers, they follow (Ayatollah) Ali al-Husayni al-Sistani.” Quoting the Ayatollah, Al Najim proclaimed: “It is illegal, it is forbidden for any Muslim … to do any business transaction with any Zionist business.”

Firas Al Najim didn’t stop there. He basically asked for the end of the State of Israel, claiming: “The holy land of Muslims, Christians and Jews has been occupied for over 72 years … We need to stand with the Palestinian people. We need to be firm and we need to talk to our MPs, talk to the government officials, the prime minister over and over again.”

This is what Muslims who have fled the tyranny of Islamic regimes such as Iran and Pakistan had feared. And it happened sooner than anyone expected: the use of megaphones around mosques to spread hatred and to do so under the protection of city by-laws rushed through by a scared bunch of politicians worried that they might be slurred by the obnoxious word Islamophobia that is simply a sword of Damocles hanging over the head of anyone who dare critique the actions of certain Muslims or their clergy.

The Jaffari Centre reacted through its Vice President Shafiq Ebrahim, who instead of denouncing the message of hate mixed with the call to prayer, stated: “We do not know the individual who recorded himself on our premises.”

That claim, however, does not appear to be true...

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/fatah-islamic-call-to-prayer-turns-ugly

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Islam is very much a religion based on intolerance towards others. Towards women, towards other religions, towards gays and lesbians, towards anyone not like them. Given it was created by a murderous medieval Arab prince, that's hardly surprising.

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Arab Prince?

Where did that come from?

Before Mohammed was a self-appointed prophet he was a  caravan trader. He got the trader gig (moving up from caravan worker) through his uncle.  His uncle (who was his guardian as Mohammed was an orphan) knew a rich old heiress, 2-time widow. She outfitted caravans. She hired Mohammed to trade her caravan goods and Mohammed later married her.

You got the murderous part right though.

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11 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

Arab Prince?

Where did that come from?

Before Mohammed was a self-appointed prophet he was a  caravan trader. He got the trader gig (moving up from caravan worker) through his uncle.  His uncle (who was his guardian as Mohammed was an orphan) knew a rich old heiress, 2-time widow. She outfitted caravans. She hired Mohammed to trade her caravan goods and Mohammed later married her.

You got the murderous part right though.

And like every abusive, narcissistic man before him and after him - he was fine with powerful, competent, independent women.  Until he "got" them and married them - then he had to devalue and discredit them.

Almost all his pronouncements against women were in response to issues he had with his wives.

 

"Mohammed,  this decision you are making is not in the best interests of the family business."

"Oh yeah?   Well, God told ME that you only have half a brain."

 

"Mohammed, I'm sick of picking up your underwear - put it in the laundry."

"Oh yeah?  Well, God told ME that you have to cover your face if you want to leave the tent."

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13 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

Arab Prince?

Where did that come from?

Warlord, then. Princely titles came and went a lot back then depending on what conquerors wanted to call themselves. I suppose his ambition was even greater than calling himself a prince, as he said he was a prophet of God instead and then proceeded to murder everyone who disagreed.

Small wonder what sort of religion that inspired.

 

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Girl, 13, is ‘beheaded by her father while she slept in Iranian honour killing’

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A 13-year-old Iranian girl has been beheaded in an honour killing by her father while she was sleeping, local media have claimed. 

Romina Ashrafi was killed with a farming sickle in her family home in Hovigh, Talesh county, as a form of 'punishment', reports said. 

She had planned to run away with an older man she had fallen in love with, Iran International TV said. 

The teenage girl initially fled the family home with 34-year-old Bahamn Khavari after her father expressed outrage at their plans to get married. 

But both of their families contacted authorities, leading security forces to conduct a five-day hunt before detaining the couple and taking Romina home. 

Local media reported that although Romina told authorities she would be in danger at home and feared for her life, they handed her back as required by Islamic Republic laws. 

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Romina's father will escape the death penalty because he was Romina's 'guardian', and Islamic Penal Code means he is exempt from 'qisas', or 'retaliation in kind', Al Arabiya reported.

Sharia law says that only 'blood owners' - immediate family members - are allowed to demand execution for the murder of a relative.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8361083/Girl-13-beheaded-father-slept-Iranian-honour-killing.html

The article goes on to claim the president of Iran wants to push for harsher laws in honour killings but I suspect that's just talk. It's a theocracy that likes its Sharia law. Maybe though. Who knows. Iran is so many different kinds of wacky who knows which end is up over there.

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Tell me, is anyone surprised? When you heard about riots in a German town, did anyone have this strange notion that perhaps the rioters weren't exactly, well... Germans?

Looters chant 'Allahu Akbar' during Stuttgart's worst ever riots that turned the city into 'a battlefield' - as police reveal those involved were 'mainly young people with a migration background'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8446441/Rioters-turned-Stuttgart-battlefield-chanted-Allahu-Akbar.html

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56 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

You need to quit your day job.

1. I never said comedy was my day job.

2. 10 months ago is a long time.

3. Discussion on this topic requires precision and seriousness, or it won't work.

4. If you are paying attention, I am well aware of this statement by lead liberals, and in fact have started a whole thread supporting it.

 

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On 7/9/2020 at 9:41 AM, Michael Hardner said:

1. I never said comedy was my day job.

2. 10 months ago is a long time.

3. Discussion on this topic requires precision and seriousness, or it won't work.

4. If you are paying attention, I am well aware of this statement by lead liberals, and in fact have started a whole thread supporting it.

 

1. I see. That makes a lot of sense, judging by your sense of humour around here.

2. It's just taken that long for it to come to the forefront of the argument. Or else I guess that makes me a great visionary, then.

3. This is entirely not on topic. Too bad. But I see you try to contend with the same or similar issues elsewhere. Good luck in your most heroic and noble effort to defend these things.

4.For some reason I only remember you dissing Jerry Seinfeld's comedy as sub-par.

Thanks,

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