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No it wasn't. The prosecutor is under no obligation to present all of the evidence to a grand jury.

True. But he's released all the evidence which was presented to the grand jury, and if he missed any people are free to point that out, including the federal authorities who have been investigating and closely following this case.

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It's certainly standard for an officer who was punched hard and shows signs of bruising to go to hospital.

After first going back to the station to get cleaned up? You sure about that part?

Swabs? What the hell kind of swabs do you want? You want to know if he had ear wax?

Why are you posting in this topic again?

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And I guess facts matter after all. There was gun shot residue on Brown's hands and Brown's blood in the police car and ON Wilson. So Wilson wasn't lying after all, as some around here were insisting(Gee I guess maybe even if some cop haters on tv say he was lying, maybe that's not enough evidence). He was attacked while sitting down in his car by a thug. And as I said before, if a 292 lb thug is stupid enough to attack a cop, then whatever happens after that is his own stupid fault.

And the knuckle draggers out looting are a sign that facts do not matter to some in the black community.

A close friend of mine made a very interesting point. The blazes started alomst immediately, as if on a count of "3" after the announcement. Could this have been a planned riot?

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After first going back to the station to get cleaned up? You sure about that part?

Yes. He would go back for an extensive interview, and to have the shirt with blood and powder residue removed for examination. But almost any large organization, including the police, want their employees checked out by doctors when they've suffered some kind of on-the-job injury. They'd want it for insurance purposes as a matter of policy, though I admit in this case they'd also want any injuries professionally assessed as part of the evidence.

Why are you posting in this topic again?

To question the strange outrage given off by Lefties.

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I've listened to many news channels on this and its still a bit confusing what the truth is. The Teen did rob a store and he apparently hit the cop in the face and under State law, a cop can shot someone, if the cop fears he's going to die or beat up and so the law was on the side of the cop BUT why didn't he just shoot at his legs so the teen could walk towards him? I hope Ferguson does become the burning city of Detroit in the 1960's.

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A close friend of mine made a very interesting point. The blazes started alomst immediately, as if on a count of "3" after the announcement. Could this have been a planned riot?

I think there were a lot of people on the street that night eagerly awaiting the expected verdict and eager to take advantage of it to smash and burn and steal. And no, I don't think most of these people gave a damn about Michael Brown.

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I've listened to many news channels on this and its still a bit confusing what the truth is. The Teen did rob a store and he apparently hit the cop in the face and under State law, a cop can shot someone, if the cop fears he's going to die or beat up and so the law was on the side of the cop BUT why didn't he just shoot at his legs so the teen could walk towards him? I hope Ferguson does become the burning city of Detroit in the 1960's.

Every cop in the world is trained to shoot into the center mass. A lot of people have a mistaken idea about how accurate hand guns are, especially in the hands of emotional/shocked/frightened/startled people.

The only people who are going to be hurt by Ferguson burning down are the mostly Black residents of Ferguson, just like the people hurt by the destruction of Detroit are mostly Black people who lived there.

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Cops shoot people all the time....what's so special about a "teen" perp ?

Only this one is special I guess, unlike when a black cop kills an unarmed white teen in Utah which the media treats differently - and no riots either. I didn’t see the President speaking to that one !

http://fox13now.com/2014/08/25/dozens-protest-death-of-dillon-taylor-shot-by-slc-police-officer

ETA: The Castle Doctrine as written in Mo. Was part of the wording in the prosecutors explanation of not charging Wilson.

http://www.kmov.com/news/local/Missouri-House-passes-change-in-self-defense-castle-doctrine-law-254885011.html

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I agree it is pathetic to insinuate things that you have no proof of and then attack others for asking you for said proof...that you don't have.

It's a complete clown show. They don't know what evidence was left out, but they're positive it was.

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Oh well, as we speak there is a 12 year old black kid dead in Ohio shot by police who was carrying a toy gun. As B_C has earlier pointed out in this thread, similar things happen regularly in the US. Until they evolve out of the wild west mentality, funeral parlors and gun stores will flourish. Let's not worry about it.

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Would physical evidence include, for example, blood and gun powder residue on Wilson's body and clothes?

Also: what physical evidence is there to suggest Brown was charging Wilson when he was killed?

So you are relying on hearsay.

Blood stains 25+ feet behind where Brown dropped

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And so did I. But I don't care about this. The difference being this one was justified.

Brown was a thug. You can't admit that because he's Black. He'd be a thug if he was White too.

The problem is if he was white, the cops would have never shot him and his shoplifting would have been painted as a "transgression" or "mistake" by a teenager trying to find his identity.

Instead he's a black thug, who mugged and robbed an innocent store clerk and was a threat to the lives of the police and everyone around.

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You do realize the standard of evidence to convict in a trial is FAR higher than the standard of evidence required for a grand jury to indict, right?

Also, you just complained that the prosecutor controls the grand jury presentation. Are you operating under the belief that being joined by defense council in controlling a trial will be more likely to lead to a conviction? I mean, the defense isn't even present during the grand jury hearings, and can't challenge anything nor cross examine hostile witnesses.

You're really having troubles connecting the dots before typing up your tired indignation, eh?

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The problem is if he was white, the cops would have never shot him and his shoplifting would have been painted as a "transgression" or "mistake" by a teenager trying to find his identity.

Instead he's a black thug, who mugged and robbed an innocent store clerk and was a threat to the lives of the police and everyone around.

You couldn't be more wrong. You grab for a cops gun then charge that same cop, you're going down - no matter what colour you are.

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Only this one is special I guess,

The only people who seem to think this case is special are people like you who want to completely ignore the social and historical context of the incident and pretend that this was just an isolated individual incident with nothing to do with race or culture.

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You couldn't be more wrong. You grab for a cops gun then charge that same cop, you're going down - no matter what colour you are.

You're going down...eventually...at some point....maybe while you're over a hundred feet away with your hands in the air.

That's how dire the situation is.

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You're going down...eventually...at some point....maybe while you're over a hundred feet away with your hands in the air.

That's how dire the situation is.

He wasn't 100 feet away, he was 35 feet away and closing in. No hands in air either. I believe the "black" witnesses who went to the police more than the ones who, without thinking went to the media and were proved liars.

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The problem is if he was white, the cops would have never shot him and his shoplifting would have been painted as a "transgression" or "mistake" by a teenager trying to find his identity.

He wasn't stopped for shoplifting, Wilson stopped him because he was walking down the middle of the street and he asked them to move to the sidewalk. He didn't know that Brown had shaken down a convenience store at the time.

He also wasn't shot for shoplifting...or for j-walking. He was shot because he assaulted a police officer and tried to grab his gun, then charging the officer when ordered to stop while fleeing. That's a pretty major "transgression", regardless of the colour of your skin.

Instead he's a black thug, who mugged and robbed an innocent store clerk and was a threat to the lives of the police and everyone around.

It appears that's the case.

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The only people who seem to think this case is special are people like you who want to completely ignore the social and historical context of the incident and pretend that this was just an isolated individual incident with nothing to do with race or culture.

Sorry, but making Officer Wilson pay the price for slavery or for the mistreatment of blacks in the 50's/60's is just plain wrong.

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Oh well, as we speak there is a 12 year old black kid dead in Ohio shot by police who was carrying a toy gun. As B_C has earlier pointed out in this thread, similar things happen regularly in the US. Until they evolve out of the wild west mentality, funeral parlors and gun stores will flourish. Let's not worry about it.

Considering the number of real hand guns loose in the US, 12 year olds with toy guns are probably a minority.

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