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Time for may to resign.

We don't know any other greens frankly, and May has done an excellent job. If she were leader of the ...NDP say, they might be the ones with the majority.

There is no way May will resign. She is the reason for the party doing well on the Island. She won her seat with over 50% support, in a riding that has generally gone to a conservative party, Reform, Alliance and CPC several elections in a row, until May came along.

She is excellent at getting her message in the media... which, for a small "fringe" party, is the most valuable thing they can possibly do.

She isn't going anywhere.

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There is no way May will resign. She is the reason for the party doing well on the Island. She won her seat with over 50% support, in a riding that has generally gone to a conservative party, Reform, Alliance and CPC several elections in a row, until May came along.

She is excellent at getting her message in the media... which, for a small "fringe" party, is the most valuable thing they can possibly do.

She isn't going anywhere.

She isn't going anywhere because she's the only elected Green. Whether the party likes her or not, she has the bully pulpit. That being said, the Greens steady fading since 2008 tells me their relevancy is questionable.

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She isn't going anywhere because she's the only elected Green. Whether the party likes her or not, she has the bully pulpit. That being said, the Greens steady fading since 2008 tells me their relevancy is questionable.

How on earth are the greens steady fading since 2008?

We got our first green MP elected, then other MPs defected to the greens (although didn't get elected), and the Green Party of British Columbia got it's first MLA elected. Also many greens have been on Victoria's city council in fact last time I checked most of the City Councillors here were Greens.

All this since 2008!

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How on earth are the greens steady fading since 2008?

We got our first green MP elected, then other MPs defected to the greens (although didn't get elected), and the Green Party of British Columbia got it's first MLA elected. Also many greens have been on Victoria's city council in fact last time I checked most of the City Councillors here were Greens.

All this since 2008!

Whatever may be happening at the Provincial level, at the Federal level support for the Greens reached its maximum, and in the 2011 and 2015 elections it has steadily fallen.

As I said elsewhere, the Greens are phenomenon of Vancouver Island and the South Coast, and I think it's time we stop pretending otherwise.

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"Their vote share has gone nowhere but down, that's how."

Irrelevant people were voting ABH.

The Greens are an international phenomenon. People in the world actually value the environment and nature over greed. I know that may be shocking to a lot of you.

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"Their vote share has gone nowhere but down, that's how."

Irrelevant people were voting ABH.

The Greens are an international phenomenon. People in the world actually value the environment and nature over greed. I know that may be shocking to a lot of you.

As SmallC said, there was not ABH in 2011. May and her supporters can make all the excuses they want, at the moment, the Greens are insignificant outside of a rather small geographical area in south-west BC. Whatever there status as an international movement, they have absolutely no electoral effect in Canada.

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The Greens had their first MP elected in 2011 so to say it was downhill for the Greens is absurd. Their first elected MLA followed a couple years later. The idea that the Greens have no electoral effect in Canada is absurd. May has done a great job and Weaver is popular in BC.

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The Greens had their first MP elected in 2011 so to say it was downhill for the Greens is absurd. Their first elected MLA followed a couple years later. The idea that the Greens have no electoral effect in Canada is absurd. May has done a great job and Weaver is popular in BC.

They reached their general electoral support top in 2008, and they've been in decline ever since. As I have said repeatedly, they have some support in south-western BC, concentrated on Vancouver Island and the Sunshine Coast, but get beyond that into the Lower Mainland and the rest of BC, and they are just a fringe movement. Nationally, they are nearly as irrelevant as the Marxist-Leninists.

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"Nationally, they are nearly as irrelevant as the Marxist-Leninists."

Few nationally would agree with your belief in this.

Few who? Look at the numbers. In 2008, they reached their highest level of support with 6.78% of the popular vote. In 2011, that dropped to 3.91% of the vote, and the only reason May won was because someone convinced her to actually run in a riding where she had a hope in hell of winning. By this election, they dropped to 3.48%, which is half the popular support they enjoyed in 2008.

I gather there were a handful of ridings elsewhere where they came in third, but for most of the ridings, they weren't even a factor.

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Their vote share has gone nowhere but down, that's how.

See my earlier comments. The number of votes they've received continue to rise and their support is in pockets. They lost in Fredericton but moved into third. We also have a Green MLA who's tremendous.
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See my earlier comments. The number of votes they've received continue to rise and their support is in pockets. They lost in Fredericton but moved into third. We also have a Green MLA who's tremendous.

Rise in pockets, but overall in decline.

If the Greens were a product line, the manufacturer would be pulling the plug. Rises in a handful of markets while overall the product isn't selling is not an argument for further investment.

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Awful analogy. They're trying to raise their exposure by getting more MPs elected in targeted ridings.

And how's that working for them? Their support is gradually decreasing, they still have only one MP and if the trend continues, at some point there won't even be enough concentration of support to get May re-elected.

How can anyone look at the Greens' performance in the last two elections and imagine they are in some sort of Renaissance?

And my analogy sticks. If you can only show any kind of increase in sales in a few select markets, even after multiple marketing campaigns, you're going to start thinking "Maybe there isn't a market here to begin with."

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