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Trudeau's Committment to Syrian Refugees - 25,000 by Year End

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You must have meant this post for someone else.

My mistake. I did.

I would say a lack of sense is going into something with no idea what it will cost you. You guys haven't been shy when it comes to calling the conservatives to task when it comes to what things cost. Why so sensitive?

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If they're replacing other refugees (which seems to make sense, given the numbers provided) it is costed.

Cite please.

Where has the LPC said they will not take in other refugees at all?

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My mistake. I did.

I would say a lack of sense is going into something with no idea what it will cost you. You guys haven't been shy when it comes to calling the conservatives to task when it comes to what things cost. Why so sensitive?

This issue is not about what "things" cost. It's about human lives. That's what makes it sensitive.

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This issue is not about what "things" cost. It's about human lives. That's what makes it sensitive.

Well it has to be budgeted for now, unless you belong to the school that says we will just add it to the deficit and pay interest on it forever because our governments don't pay down debt, they just pay interest.

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Well it has to be budgeted for now, unless you belong to the school that says we will just add it to the deficit and pay interest on it forever because our governments don't pay down debt, they just pay interest.

That's fine but budget for it properly. Take into the account that we have a soft economy on the verge of recession and the government is dumping piles of money into the economy in stimulus. And keep in mind that giving money to people that don't save anything is the most efficient form of such stimulus.

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Well it has to be budgeted for now, unless you belong to the school that says we will just add it to the deficit and pay interest on it forever because our governments don't pay down debt, they just pay interest.

And what government didn't do that? I reckon I'd prefer my tax bucks to go to helping someone who will likely become a productive citizen, rather than pissing it into the pockets of, let's say, Lockheed Martin for a junk airplane.

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That's fine but budget for it properly. Take into the account that we have a soft economy on the verge of recession and the government is dumping piles of money into the economy in stimulus. And keep in mind that giving money to people that don't save anything is the most efficient form of such stimulus.

Tell me how they are going to budget for it properly. Take into account the interest we pay on federal debt in one year would cover the total deficits JT is planning on running over the next three years. We are still paying for services delivered 30 years ago.

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And what government didn't do that? I reckon I'd prefer my tax bucks to go to helping someone who will likely become a productive citizen, rather than pissing it into the pockets of, let's say, Lockheed Martin for a junk airplane.

Likely become a productive citizen? Please.

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Cite please.

Where has the LPC said they will not take in other refugees at all?

I'm not sure what they plan to do - but it would make sense given the numbers provided.

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I'm not sure what they plan to do - but it would make sense given the numbers provided.

No, it wouldn't. The LPC has not said flat out they will not accept refugees from other "catastrophes".They are budgeting it that way according to you, but they have not said such a thing. If they did, it would make them more credible, but right now it's smoke and mirrors.

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And your view on that?

It's not my view. My parents used to run a firm that brought in immigrants. They were brought in due to their ability to contribute to our economy.

A refugee that enters our country is not cleared due to their ability to add value to our country.

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It's not my view. My parents used to run a firm that brought in immigrants. They were brought in due to their ability to contribute to our economy.

A refugee that enters our country is not cleared due to their ability to add value to our country.

They are allowed to enter so that they might not be killed. It's called humanity.

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This has a cost. I'm not willing to bear it. And if you are, great, but at what cost?

You do understand that the government isn't beholden to your will alone. The majority of Canadians clearly want to allow more refugees in.

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The cost was projected for 4 years. Not sure about after that.

They added $4 billion into the budget for Syrian refugees? I'd like to see a cite on that.

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They are allowed to enter so that they might not be killed. It's called humanity.

You have evidence refugees in Turkey are being killed?

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They added $4 billion into the budget for Syrian refugees?

And you pulled that number from....?

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You do understand that the government isn't beholden to your will alone. The majority of Canadians clearly want to allow more refugees in.

We should ask the Canadians who have to pay for it first.

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We should ask the Canadians who have to pay for it first.

The time to canvass Canadians for opinions on refugees is not during the middle of a crisis and I'm quite certain the government has ascertained these opinions adequately enough during more normal times to know. I'm just a certain there are occasions when you'd be just suspicious about the timing of a call to use direct democracy or a public opinion poll in the heat of the moment to determine policy on the fly.

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