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Just do a search of MLW for Bruce Gorcyca this is all the same conspiracy nonsense posted by multiple personalities last year. All blogs posted on this are written by the same person. This should be in conspiracy theories and all that.

That's right. A quick google search and one comes up with the same bizarre chart as posted by the OP on the Rabble site as well as the same content as posted by Special Delivery. This is all rehashed, duplicated stuff.

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Scribblet you seem to have the right guy but the wrong information. I think the background of this guy will be far more admirable than that of Jeb Bush as you can see here http://veteranstodayforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=1229#p2649

http://scam.com/showthread.php?684770-Are-Jeb-Bush-s-Drug-Dealer-Criminal-Contacts-For-Real-Or-A-Scam/

Have you personally read any of the leaked book manuscripts dealing with AFG or the Canadian drug smuggling operations? Is it inconceivable to you that other people who do not live here at mapleleafweb might be discussing this very topic or at least different aspects of it?

When I google I can find people talking about this cover-up going back three years. I'm sure some others will still be talking about it 3 years from now also because over 100 people in Ontario were cheated out of $43 million and that may have financially destroyed 2-5 dozen families. How many drug addicts did Harper and Bush create over the last 15 years? I have not a clue but I do know cocaine is highly addictive.

Just on the one plane Huxtable and Nelson got busted with in Saskatchewan, there was 4 tons of pure cocaine. When cut even by 50% that would be enough cocaine to keep 200,000 high school kids high for a month. Do you have kids Scribblet? If so, read this here and the 6 NON-FICTION books I listed above. Maybe they will change your point of view. http://worldlawdirect.com/forum/off-topic-messages/91146-uncle-sam-seized-book-manuscripts-protect-jeb-bush.html

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These books below are all NON-FICTION books that have linked the Bush family to drug dealing, money laundering, murders, and even treason going back to Grandpa Prescott Bush who you can see here with Adolf Hitler

Seriously ? Going to the Hitler card so soon (Godwin's Law) ? We've seen it all here on MLW....take a number please.

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Please read this post on how to deal with fringe viewpoints, thanks. This thread is for discussion - if you don't think there's a discussion, then say why or link to the post below, leave the thread and move on.

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/topic/25544-how-to-respond-to-fringe-viewpoints-on-mlw/#entry1137757

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My point is not Hitler but the fact that when books are published that accuse government officials (past or present) of crimes one of three things happen:

1) The government officials accused vehemently deny the allegations and spend real money to sue for libel and defamation

2) The accused officials get their cronies to step up and defend them

3) The accused officials pretend they don't see the remarks and hope they go away

In this case they cannot deny it because actually arrests of Mike Huxtable and Terry Nelson took place in Saskatchewan with 4 tons of cocaine being seized (This is the case where Ottawa sealed the court records, but admitted the drugs were not part of any "sting" operation"). No crony is going make themselves are target of scrutiny by defending such a dishonorable crime. So this leaves them with option 3.

Btw... I found yet another book that mentions the drug runs detailed in the seized manuscripts of whistle blower Gorcyca. It is written by a former Navy Captain and FAA official named Rodney Stich and his sources are all government insiders http://www.amazon.com/Drugging-America-Trojan-Second-Edition/dp/0932438113

So thus far, two honest DEA agents, three honest RCMP, a former Toronto narcotics detective, a CIA pilot (Chip Tatum), a 20 year FBI supervisor (Ted Gunderson), a insider of the actual drug smugglers (Erling Ingvaldsen), a pilot for the Bush/Nelson/Jeanette smuggling operation (Curt Emmer), and a former U.S. Treasury agent (Gorcyca) who worked 2 years for American Financial Group (the money washer for the group) all confirm the HUGE Canada operation that may have regrouped by now. Btw... Gunderson video taped his report and that of Chip Tatum that can be found here: And lookie here what happened to yet other named witnesses...

Gary Webb (investigative reporter) a suicide by shooting himself twice in the head

Atty. Stephen J. Finta (Delivered $16 million in cash to AFG offices) induced heart attack 2 weeks before the DEA planned to arrest him

FBI informant Al Chalem (Wall Street insider and off-shore money mover) shot 5 times in the head

Jon Pierre Gonyou (Canadian) found dead in Beverly Hills with enough heroin in him to kill King Kong

Mike Huxtable (Personal friend of Harper, Bush, Nelson) has disappeared more than a year ago

Barry Seal (Top pilot for CIA and personal friend friend of George H. Bush) executed in his car

Paul McKay (Former Investigative reporter at the Ottawa Citizen) Lost his job after trying to report on Gorcyca's fake extradition

Scott Gallin (Bagman for Florida Sheriff Nick Navarro & witness to 2 murders) died in mysterious private plane crash in Bahamas

George Morales (Secretly testified before Senator Kerry) slipped on a bar of soap in prison and died one day before a scheduled meeting with Congressmen about photos taken of Jeb & George Bush with cocaine at a Florida airport.

I have no idea if Stephen Harper was bribed, blackmailed, or both to ignore all this stuff, but it was certainly brought to his attention by the two guys who were kicked out of Canada even though they legally had a right to remain there at the time of their removal Erling Ingvaldsen and Bruce Gorcyca. And is it a coincidence that both men were somehow represented by the same Brampton attorney (Gilmour)? Look at the email from Ingvaldsen to Gilmour and the report of the private investigator Reiken which are both legal exhibits of this law society complaint against Gilmour. Ingvaldsen is Norwegian so his English is not that great but you will see the point http://bruceslawsocietycomplaint.wordpress.com

Now the below was obtained through "Nico" who leaked some of the manuscripts at worldlawdirect.com...

"Take a look this http://www.copi.com/articles/Montana/980326dh.html Anyone with a brain between their ears will know that this is not some "conspiracy theory". The dots are now easy to connect but it seems nobody has the courage to investigate Harper who is alleged to have taken either a $3 million bribe, or a $3 million campaign contribution...

"The veteran DEA agent just looked at me in silence for almost a minute with a fully frustrated look on his face, then finally admitted "We know that $3 million went from Jeb to Harper through Nelson's group in 2010. Finta delivered the cash to Huxtable who had a late night meeting with Harper. We requested a court order for wiretaps but were turned down. The DoJ keeps getting in our way and if we push this issue, we will all get transferred to Nogales!" This was not the first time I heard about interference from the top. When I met with XXXXXX and XXXX I got pretty much the same feedback. But at least XXXX was determined to nail Finta. Once Finta was bagged and facing a 30 year sentence XXXX was sure the "fat fuck lawyer" would roll over on everyone. I agreed with him and also suggested they go after Fischetti and the accountants. He asked me if I had the names of the accountants and I gave him one. He jotted it down in his notebook.

Officially he said he was not assigned to the Nelson case, because the "Nelson case" no longer existed officially - thanks to Don Gregg and the DoJ. He further admitted that he was not even supposed to be in Beijing but his former partner XXXXXXXX asked him to "check in on Gorcyca". I am glad that he did. I was still worried about the two shootings at our home in Mississauga and now that I heard Soave was retiring, we would not have anybody to call for help. Soave and Besson both knew the score but both said Ottawa was calling the shots when we decided China was the best "temporary solution".

I told XXXX about my meeting with Ms. Frazier at the Renascence Center in Toronto and I played some recordings for him of my conversations with Maury and XXXX. He grabbed my arm and said "Listen Bruce, you are preaching to the choir. I believed your story after I first spoke with Maury and read the Reiken report. Save those recordings for the people who don't believe you." Despite his assurances and support he still asked me for a copy of them so I gave him the USB - one of seven I made and gave to various friends I had around the world. If anything happened to me or my family, I asked my friends to post everything on line and give copies to two reporters that had been asking me for interviews for more than five years. The only person that I wanted to speak with was not able to communicate with me and I still do not know for sure if my courier package actually reached their hands.

My emails had been locked or blocked for months as were most all of my skype calls. Just to call my wife and kids I would have to buy a phone card and use the landline at a local business or hotel. They were doing a good job of isolating me in China, but I was determined to keep my family together. Without communications, that is not easy to do."

Note: Atty. Stephen J. Finta was murdered with an induced heart attack in July of 2012, two weeks before the DEA planned to arrest him. My sources suspect the NSA was spying on the DEA's South Florida task force - by executive order for more than five years. He had served as a paid FBI informant and Nelson's front man since 1986. It was Finta who delivered the $16 million in cash to the offices of American Financial Group in 1996."

Btw... Does anyone know who is "Ms. Frazier"????? One last thing before I sign off on this topic... If Gorcyca's book was a harmless fabrication, I don't think federal agents would have to seize it at gunpoint eh? https://persecutingwhistleblowerswithamericancourts.wordpress.com/2015/06/17/bruces-book-manuscripts-seized-at-gunpoint-by-federal-agents-without-warrants-several-witnesses-present/

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I just wanted to update this thread with Spanish language news clippings I found related to American Financial Group since foreign media seems more willing to tell the truth than North American news people. Latin American newspapers and investigative journalists have confirmed what Gorcyca reported in 2001 and 2006 as follows;

1. AFG President Edward Myles Chism was employed with the U.S. Justice Department for 20+ years in Panama where he was good pals and drinking buddies with General Manuel Noriega. Chism was assigned to Panama Canal Commission under the supervision of General McCauliffe. In Panama Chism personally met George Bush Sr, as did Noriega and Chism's wife Terry. (For years GHB denied the 1976 meeting until photos eventually surfaced)

2. Chism's wife is Teresita Tapia, the former personal secretary, banker, and translator for General Noriega. Panamanian newspapers accuse her of embezzling millions of dollars from the national Treasury. Gorcyca who worked two years for Chism confirmed that AFG was started with seed capital from Noriega who was both a partner and client of AFG, as was the Bush family through off-shore IBCs

3. FBI Terry Nelson's partner Stephen J. Finta delivered $16 million in cash to Chism's Miami office office and Gorcyca was asked to deliver some of that money to Jeb via his former mistress and colleague "Kitty" (Katherine Harris)

4. Latin American sources also confirm that Gorcyca was asked to deliver a briefcase for AFG to Venezuela for a young Army officer named Chavez who would go on to become President Hugo Chavez. This was arranged by a man named Felix Rodriguez and if Chavez refused the money he would be killed as "Plan B"

5. Colombian newspapers have also confirmed that the CIA's former Miami station Chief at the time (Ted Shackley) was/is married to Leona Ochoa who is the sister of Colombia's most famous drug lord in history - Jorge Ochoa.

The above cannot all be coincidence's - especially the fate of Edward Chism who served a whopping 8 months in a federal resort prison and then escorted out of America to live quietly in Panama after being accused of stealing $87 million!!! If any of us were guilty of stealing even half that amount, we would get no less than a 15 year prison sentence according to sentencing guidelines. REMEMBER ... IT WAS CHISM'S AMERICAN FINANCIAL GROUP THAT CAUSED 139 ONTARIO INVESTORS TO LOSE $43 MILLION IN 2001. (See Toronto Star Archives - full page story by Jennifer Wells) http://2006bruce.blogspot.ca

If you can read Spanish or know how to use Google translator, just search "Teresita Tapia Chism" related to the above.

http://www.panamaamerica.com.pa/content/demandan-la-familia-de-exsecretaria-de-noriega

http://impresa.prensa.com/mas_de_la_prensa/Condenan-empresario-EU-vivio-Panama_0_941905904.html

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:nKNVszGT2S4J:https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20140901162420-29817943-federal-personnel-dealing-in-drugs+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

In the last 2 months, over a dozen links about all of the above has been removed from the internet including photos of Nelson and Huxtable who has vanished. He was last seen at a Harper fundraiser. Many wonder if he is still alive.3 Reddit links and huge piece from Daniel Hopsicker and another from Rolling Stone's Matt Taibbi have also been vaporized. Rodney Stich, Hopsicker and Gorcyca should corroborate while all of them are still with us and don't get sudden heart attacks like Finta. It is my hope that those honest DEA and RCMP guys will find a way to leak stuff to the public so Canadians know who the real drug lords are these days.

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More linkage to U.S.government participation & passive approval of 160,000 tons of cocaine coming into Canada over 10 year span @ $18,000 per kilo profit for Team Bush. Maybe the $3 million paid to Harper was just 1 of many installment payments?

"In my 30-year history in the Drug Enforcement Administration and related agencies, the major targets of my investigations almost invariably turned out to be working for the CIA."

Dennis Dayle, former chief of an elite DEA enforcement unit.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=20001

Louis Sapi, David Lewis, Brian McWilliams and all the Affinity Capital investors of Toronto have grounds for a $300,000,000 dollar law suit against the U.S. Justice Department for causing their losses with a cover-up of the AFG money laundering. See http://americanfinancialgroupfraud.wordpress.com

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I love how you link to a post on a forum that gets shredded by other conspiracy theorists for lacking rigor and for citing unreliable sources. You don't cite anything that even remotely corroborates the wild claims that you make. Bold and coloured font doesn't give you credibility.

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I love how you glance and don't read court files, the report of P.I. Ed Reiken, (exhibit in this law society complaint http:bruce'slawsocietycomplaint.wordpress.com) the 2006 letter to Harper from Gorcyca, http://20006bruce.blogspot.caand the history and news clippings and sworn statements at http;//whyunclesamhatesbruce.blogspot.ca This forum is not a courtroom where witnesses can be questioned under oath and documents compelled to be produced by court order. What took place is historical and at least a hundred honest police and court employees know it to be true. People have been murdered, threatened, and court files of Terry Nelson and Harper pal Mike Huxtable sealed to hide the corruption. Canadian families have been bankrupted with the American Financial Group cover-up, and reputations falsely ruined to Harper and friends out of jail. Book manuscripts do not get seized for no reason by a government that is supposed to be a democracy.

You choose to conveniently remain in denial. The DEA reference was to demonstrate how easily these schemes become reality but people have a hard time believing that that their elected officials could be profiting from narcotics smuggling and sales. One question I put out there directly... Is Harper or ANY former PM above the law or immune from criminal prosecution for past acts that caused people to die, be falsely jailed, fales extradited, or terrorized on Canadian soil?

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You keep saying Harper did this and Harper did that. Absolutely nothing you have posted ties Harper to anything. Show me specific evidence that ties Harper to the claims you and the other bloggers you quote are making.

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If there was any truth to this , CBC and every other left wing media would be on this everyday. So when this is the only place you hear it,tells me it is BS.

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You keep saying Harper did this and Harper did that. Absolutely nothing you have posted ties Harper to anything. Show me specific evidence that ties Harper to the claims you and the other bloggers you quote are making.

There is no evidence that's plain to see.

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If there was any truth to this , CBC and every other left wing media would be on this everyday. So when this is the only place you hear it,tells me it is BS.

X2 and I'm the Last Person On Earth to defend Harper

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As to Noriega he spent 20 years in jail in the USA, 7 more behind bars in France and @ age 81 is still locked up down in Panama WTH does he have to do with anything?

HI Bill,

If you take the time to read you will see that American Financial Group was started by seed capital of Noriega whose secretary, translator, and personal banker (Teresita Tapia) married the President of AFG (Edward Chism) who worked 20+ years for the U,S. Justice Department before taking $43 million from Canadian investors and spending only 8 months in prison for it. See link 1

link 2

You really should read the entire 11 page Reiken report (The Canadian Private Investigator) which is an exhibit with this Law Society complaint against one of the lawyers that sold Gorcyca down the river http://bruceslawsocietycomplaint.wordpressand paye attention to what he says about honest RCMP officials and recordings. The FBI also consluded that Noriega was both a client and partner of AFG the day they were busted in error by the SEC, which learned too late that AFG was a government front company. But once they issued their news release about the bust, it was too late. Everyone in Washington was sweating bullets and looking for plausible deniability. The cover-up kicked in. Imagine serving only 8 months prison time for an $87 million fraud? Friends of the Bush family always seem to end up in jail - at least for a few months. Read what Gorcyca wrote about Alberto Duque, another friend of Jeb Bush (owner of City National Bank)

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If you learned from a credible former IRS agent and DEA agent and 2 honest RCMP agents..

Like them saying that or showing evidence of that? Cops/Gov employees saying something happened is not sufficient evidence to prove anything, especially when we are talking about someone elses knowledge of something. Police lie more often than tell the whole truth. I have no knowledge of the IRS or DEA. While the RCMP is one of the better police agencies I have encountered, police in general should never be trusted unless you will die anyway if not using their information.

Much like the Night of Long Knives, information can be forged, so documents in themselves are not sufficient proof beyond a reasonable doubt, only something that illicits suspicion, much like agents reporting something. You need to have all elements of a crime to provide for reasonable grounds to proceed with charges.

As far as conspiracy by not reporting, in fact, there is no reporting requirement except for acts such as treason. While a moral duty does exist, there is not a legal duty to report crimes.

As I am not a crown prosecutor, I would not be likely to prosecute. However, I think it would be notable to prosecute if grounds existed, a former PM should not be treated any different than anyone else in a society of equals.

As far as letters are concerned, Ministers and MPs rarely answer their own mail, especially senior members, usually it is political aids / csis etc.. that do their mail readings. Then the aids will compile information that they have been told to filter to them. If there is a reply then sometimes the minister will sign off on it, reply to it, while at other times it will be their aid, it depends on the letter and who is writing and for what purpose.

As for contacting the PM about legal issues, it in general is not his place. Contacting the RCMP, about a drug ring would make more sense. Of course someone can go to a courthouse and press charges by filing an information on specific indictable offences. I am not sure why someone would write the PM about a crime? Is the PM even a peace officer. Also that information, turns into hearsay as soon as it goes from a source to another person.

I think that it would be likely that the person who sent the letter would be replied to instructing them to contact police to report a crime if they so desired, as it is not the position of the government to give private persons legal advice and the police and ministry are independent of one another.
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