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On 1/17/2020 at 2:52 PM, Boges said:

So who here really believes Trump has no idea who Lev Parnas is? 

He's hired a whip smart 81-year old lawyer so stand back.  Also the guy's implicated in the Epstein affair but...

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2 hours ago, eyeball said:

 Trump is simply the most recent albeit the most telling symptom of America's descent into its next civil-war. 

Such a conflict as that would be an unimaginable catastrophe. I believe the Americans are way smarter than that. Most of the wild talk is just that.

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Schiff really blew it with his “head on a pike” remark. Also pathetic is the persistent focus on the polls and the effect this has on the election. Makes it quite obvious, to everyone, what this was about.

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Trump wins again.....driving liberals nuts one court ruling at a time:

 

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WASHINGTON — The U.S. Supreme Court issued an order Monday allowing the Trump administration to begin enforcing new limits on immigrants who are considered likely to become overly dependent on government benefit programs.

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/01/27/scotus-allows-new-limits-on-immigrant-aid/23910592/

 

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6 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Trump wins again.....driving liberals nuts one court ruling at a time:

 

 

In all honesty BC why should that come as a surprise to you to score over liberals!?

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25 minutes ago, kactus said:

In all honesty BC why should that come as a surprise to you to score over liberals!?

 

Who says it was a surprise....more like a victory lap !

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NATO deadbeat France issues a "strong warning" to the Pentagon....America must continue to pay most of the bill for counterterrorism in West Africa:

 

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French Defense Minister Florence Parly said she warned her U.S. counterpart during a visit to the Pentagon that joint counterterrorism efforts in West Africa would be harmed by cuts to U.S. military assistance....

The possibility of cuts has alarmed France, which relies on U.S. intelligence and logistics for its 4,500-strong mission in the Sahel. The deaths of 13 French soldiers in a helicopter crash during a combat mission in Mali in November increased France’s determination to secure more support in the zone.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/france-urges-u-stay-fight-143622220.html

 

Deadbeats are always alarmed when they have to pay the bill.

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1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

Let’s see what Bolton has to say and whether enough of the Senste will swing towards impeachment.  

 

Trump has already been impeached...that's forever.   But this GOP Senate will not convict.   No crimes have been proven.

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3 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Let’s see what Bolton has to say and whether enough of the Senste will swing towards impeachment.  

If you think there is any chance of the Senate removing Trump from office because of Bolton, you will really grasp at any straw if you can delude yourself into thinking "Trump is done now".

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2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Trump has already been impeached...that's forever.   But this GOP Senate will not convict.   No crimes have been proven.

Bolton has said there was clear cut quid pro quo.  If he testifies, Trump may be on the ropes.  

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7 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Bolton has said there was clear cut quid pro quo.  If he testifies, Trump may be on the ropes.  

Trump will not be on the ropes whether he testifies or not. Wishful thinking is a helluva drug.

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Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

Trump will not be on the ropes whether he testifies or not. Wishful thinking is a helluva drug.

I wouldn’t be so sure.  Trump is looking more like a mafia boss these days.  Bolton can’t take back what he’s written.  

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6 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Bolton has said there was clear cut quid pro quo.  If he testifies, Trump may be on the ropes.  

 

Military aid was still released to Ukraine.   No U.S. Senate wants to be the first in U.S. history to convict absent a proven crime.

Hell, Bill Clinton actually committed a crime and he was still not convicted.

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4 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I wouldn’t be so sure.  Trump is looking more like a mafia boss these days.  Bolton can’t take back what he’s written.  

How many more times are you going to put your hand on the stove of "Trump is done now" assuming you aren't going to get burned? You never learn, the media jumps from one "bombshell" to the next, assuming it will be the end of Trump, and you believe them every single time, no matter how many times they are wrong about it.

You keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, some would call that insanity.

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Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Military aid was still released to Ukraine.   No U.S. Senate wants to be the first in U.S. history to convict absent a proven crime.

Hell, Bill Clinton actually committed a crime and he was still not convicted.

Does anyone really care about Lewinski’s blowjob?  We’re talking about 100’s of millions in defence aid being held back for personal political reasons.  

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Just now, Zeitgeist said:

Does anyone really care about Lewinski’s blowjob?  We’re talking about 100’s of millions in defence aid being held back for personal political reasons.  

 

So what ?   Nothing special about Ukraine's defense troubles with Russia and rebels.

Clinton perjured himself in a federal deposition and obstructed justice...proven crimes.

Trump haters are just going to have to beat him the old fashioned way...at the polls.

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2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

How many more times are you going to put your hand on the stove of "Trump is done now" assuming you aren't going to get burned? You never learn, the media jumps from one "bombshell" to the next, assuming it will be the end of Trump, and you believe them every single time, no matter how many times they are wrong about it. Keep getting burned, and never learn, complete insanity.

It’s your funeral pal.  Be careful what you wish for.  Trump could dodge it all and get re-elected after these serious allegations, which are basically verified, or soon will be.  

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1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

It’s your funeral pal.  Be careful what you wish for.  Trump could dodge it all and get re-elected after these serious allegations, which are basically verified, or soon will be.  

 

Allegations are not proven crimes.   That's just more politics, and Trump is winning that game.

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1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Allegations are not proven crimes.   That's just more politics, and Trump is winning that game.

It’s getting quite clear that he lied about committing a serious crime.  Bolton is saying this happened.  If he testifies and swings four Republicans in the Senate, Trump is caput.  

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Just now, Zeitgeist said:

It’s getting quite clear that he lied about committing a serious crime.  Bolton is saying this happened.  If he testifies and swings four Republicans in the Senate, Trump is caput.  

 

No....that would just bring in witnesses.

It takes 2/3rds of the Senate to CONVICT.

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Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

No....that would just bring in witnesses.

It takes 2/3rds of the Senate to CONVICT.

The testimony could be damning.  At that point, President Pence pardons Trump, whose political career ends.  Stranger things have happened.  

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Just now, Zeitgeist said:

The testimony could be damning.  At that point, President Pence pardons Trump, whose political career ends.  Stranger things have happened.  

 

???    The full Senate will not convict Trump for the present articles of impeachment.    The Democrats knew their case was weak going in, but wanted the political spectacle for partisan reasons, same as Clinton's impeachment.

Impeachment has been weaponized....

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6 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Does anyone really care about Lewinski’s blowjob?  We’re talking about 100’s of millions in defence aid being held back for personal political reasons.  

All foreign policy decisions are made for political reasons, that is not an impeachable offense.

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8 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

It’s getting quite clear that he lied about committing a serious crime.  Bolton is saying this happened.  If he testifies and swings four Republicans in the Senate, Trump is caput.  

He needs to swing 20 Republican Senators, not four, it's not happening.

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