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See, white guy! It's not a racial thing.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/terror-threat-arrest-rcmp-1.3715969

A 24-year-old man who had been under a peace bond for being an ISIS sympathizer was killed Wednesday night by police responding to what they say was "a potential terrorist threat" in the small southern Ontario town of Strathroy.

RCMP told the man's family that police shot Aaron Driver after he detonated a device that wounded himself and one other person, CBC News has learned. The identity of the other person isn't clear.

Police told Driver's family they had to shoot him because he had another device and planned to detonate it. A senior police official told The Canadian Press on Wednesday that the man allegedly planned to use a bomb to carry out a suicide attack in a public area.

"The RCMP received credible information of a potential terrorist threat," an RCMP statement said earlier Wednesday. "A suspect was identified and the proper course of action has been taken to ensure that there is no danger to the public's safety.

So I guess instead of incarcerating people who've shown a tendency to support Islamic terrorism, you can just issue a peace-bond and ban them from participating in online activity to be further radicalized. And it allows them to be closely monitored.

This appears to be a success story for Anti-terrorism efforts.

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It's an ideology issue. Islam is a terrorist school of thought. Your skin colour or the country you come from is not relevant.

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ISIS is not Islam. They're raping and killing Muslims and destroying their monuments.

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Did I hear right? According to Ralph Goodale, Minister of Public Safety, "Outreach" efforts will be stepped up by our government. Looks like more resources will be assigned to de-radicalize or halt radicalization of radicalized individuals. I feel warm, fuzzy and safer already.

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So the FBI is monitoring Facebook and are they monitoring this forum too? The father said he notice a change with his son after his mother died and when the father remarried. Did the dad get mental health help for the son? I can see were many people especially young ones may have similar feels about the war but they don't act on them like this guy did, so therefore, he had mental health issues.

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Here we go, Goodale's exact comments re the need for "outreach".

"The government of Canada has to get far more proactive on the whole issue of outreach, community engagement, counter-radicalization, determining how and in what means the right positive constructive influences can be brought to bear to change what otherwise would be dangerous behaviour," said Goodale.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/aaron-driver-imminent-attack-1.3716997

I see a new bureaucracy in the making.

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We are at war with ISIS. A Canadian person makes no pretense that he supports ISIS - our enemy. He then decides to take action. Hello - this is a surprise?

During WWII, if someone in Canada stated that they support Germany or Japan they would be immediately taken into custody and rendered peaceful.

Why was this guy treated differently?

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I see it as a mental health issue and if he REALLY want to hurt people why not go to London or Toronto?

He was headed for London.

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This appears to be a success story for Anti-terrorism efforts.

Yes. For AMERICAN anti-terrorism efforts. It's a huge whopping FAIL for ours.

This guy was known to federal authorities for at least a year. He was on a peace bond. Yet he was able to build at least one bomb and the only reason he didn't manage to go to a mall in London and murder people is because the AMERICANS got wind of it. CSIS and the RCMP knew nothing whatsoever. Were it left up to them we'd now be talking about the dead, and the Left wingers here would be promising us it had nothing to do with Islam.

How is it the FBI managed to spot the video he made? How is it every single thing this guy did on the internet wasn't being watched by CSIS or CSEC?

Were it not for the FBI they'd have a lot to explain, and I think they STILL have a lot to explain. This was a huge failure on their part.

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We are at war with ISIS. A Canadian person makes no pretense that he supports ISIS - our enemy. He then decides to take action. Hello - this is a surprise?

During WWII, if someone in Canada stated that they support Germany or Japan they would be immediately taken into custody and rendered peaceful.

Why was this guy treated differently?

I'm with you Big Guy. Instead of taking measures to neutralize threats as they materialize, our government will be setting up a new federal outfit at various jurisdictional levels to conduct outreach to teach these radicalized individuals the error of their ways. Sunny ways all along the route to the next calamity.

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ISIS is not Islam. They're raping and killing Muslims and destroying their monuments.

ISIS believes in a certain interpretation of Islam, so it's a sub-sect of Islam. No different than ie: Mormons or Christian Science. You can't call them Islam or not Islam just because you don't like their interpretation. They're worshiping Muslims and identify strongly as followers of Islam. But that's not to say they represent all or even a large portion of Islam.

They're raping and killing Muslims and destroying their monuments.

Because of their interpretation of Islam, they rape Muslims they consider apostates of Islam and therefore it's fair game to call them enemies of Islam because they pervert the faith/God (in their eyes), and therefore it's jihad time for them. They destroy monuments they see as built and worshiped by fakes/apostates or non-believers, same reason they destroy Christian monuments. In their eyes, ISIS is restoring the proper original vision of Islam, not present-day moderate versions that's embraced modernity.

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We are at war with ISIS. A Canadian person makes no pretense that he supports ISIS - our enemy. He then decides to take action. Hello - this is a surprise?

During WWII, if someone in Canada stated that they support Germany or Japan they would be immediately taken into custody and rendered peaceful.

Why was this guy treated differently?

Exactly! If you say you support ISIS, then you're supporting its calls for violent attacks against Canada. That makes you an enemy of the country, treasonous.

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We aren't at war... The country still has laws that apply to all citizens.

Come back when Parlaiment declares war, institutes the War Measures Act and maybe even sends some troops to go fight somewhere. Then we can talk about "proactive measures" to lock people up before they actually do something.

Hell, maybe we can even put Muslims into internment camps like the Japanese! That should give some conservatives a woody just thinking about it....

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They are "full gospel" Muslims. Islam, by the book.

Yes, they're Muslims... But not all Muslims are ISIS... To think otherwise is delusional.

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Yes, they're Muslims... But not all Muslims are ISIS... To think otherwise is delusional.

They are Wahabi Muslims, and there is very little to their beliefs that other Wahabi Muslims don't agree with, including 92% of Saudis.

https://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2014/08/24/92-of-saudis-believes-that-isis-conforms-to-the-values-of-islam-and-islamic-law-survey/

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They are Wahabi Muslims, and there is very little to their beliefs that other Wahabi Muslims don't agree with, including 92% of Saudis.

https://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2014/08/24/92-of-saudis-believes-that-isis-conforms-to-the-values-of-islam-and-islamic-law-survey/

Sure. They're Muslims, but not all Muslims are ISIS?

Why are you arguing against that statement, but not really?

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Sure. They're Muslims, but not all Muslims are ISIS?

Why are you arguing against that statement, but not really?

I'm not. I'm arguing against what I guess I see as the suggestion, because I've seen it elsewhere so often, that the Islam as practiced and believed by ISIS is only believed by a few isolated extremists. It's not. The Wahabbi version of Islam has been steadily spreading and gaining ground around the world as the result of hundreds of billions of dollars the Saudis have put into proselytizing.

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I'm not. I'm arguing against what I guess I see as the suggestion, because I've seen it elsewhere so often, that the Islam as practiced and believed by ISIS is only believed by a few isolated extremists. It's not. The Wahabbi version of Islam has been steadily spreading and gaining ground around the world as the result of hundreds of billions of dollars the Saudis have put into proselytizing.

So you're arguing against something that I never said... Cool.

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They are "full gospel" Muslims. Islam, by the book.

That's not actually true. They've found "outs" in their interpretation of the texts that give them the religious justification to murder civilians just because they don't practice Islam the way ISIS/extremists interpret it. I think "radical Islam" is a good description, more accurate than "Islamic fundamentalists".

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