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7 minutes ago, betsy said:

Man, I love Israel, what can I say?

Lol some Israelis would love you others you would smack in the face. I tend to go with B-Chaney's analysis on this.

Iran is dangerous do not get me wrong and I prefer the US as world policeman but with Trump today, well Besty I leave you to handle him.

I would have preferred Romney or someone calm and dignified like him.

As much as I thought Reagan was out of it, he seems compared to Trump to be just what the US needs-some titular calm person.

Too much loudness. Hell I would take Ryan at this point.

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13 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Actually, Iran proved to be militarily incompetent when attempting to bomb Iraq's Osirak nuclear power plant in 1980.   Israel did the job right in 1981 using weapons and tactics that Iran had not mastered.  

The U.S. can provoke Iran into a military mistake and then it is game on.   Israel can join in the fun if it wants to.

educate yourself

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/trump-wants-to-push-back-against-iran-but-iran-is-now-more-powerful-than-ever/2017/02/05/9a7629ac-e960-11e6-903d-9b11ed7d8d2a_story.html?utm_term=.dbab0583a045

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Iranian nationals seek medical procedure in United States for infant.....American nationals do not seek medical procedures in Iran for infants.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/08/iranian-travel-ban-baby-fatemeh-reshad-life-saving-heart-surgery-us

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I mean seriously how ridiculous is the argument put forth by some OP...

An Iranian infant requires a delicate surgery whose uncle is an AMERICAN CITIZEN and this is such a big national security to the Orange Oligarch and his supporters that it needs attention on this forum....

Get a grip and get out of your comfort zone and perhaps do a bit of travelling instead of coming up with literally nothing to warrant a ban ordinary citizens....

This is preposterous!

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Uncle Schmuncle.....the point remains:  Iranians seek medical procedure from the Great Satan nation. 

The U.S. controls its own borders....not Iranians or Canadians.    Don't like that ?   Tough bounce.

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Many, many Iranian nationals fled to the United States before and after the Islamic Revolution.

Many, many American nationals have never fled to Iran.

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In January 2006, the International Monetary Fund claimed that Iran ranks highest in brain drain among 91 developing and developed countries, with an estimated 150,000 to 180,000 educated people exiting per year. According to a 1999 study, the brain drain from Iran to the United States, measured by migration rates of the individuals with tertiary education, is the highest in Asia.

http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/iran-vast-diaspora-abroad-and-millions-refugees-home

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6 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Many, many Iranian nationals fled to the United States before and after the Islamic Revolution.

Many, many American nationals have never fled to Iran.

http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/iran-vast-diaspora-abroad-and-millions-refugees-home

And???

America has always been a destination for immigrants from any country. This phenomenon has happened to a lot of countries for their people to emmigrate.

Why the hell is emphasis on Iran right now?

Just google search the successful Iranians in the US and see what you get...It may even surprise you...No need is done for you.... 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Americans

http://iipdigital.usembassy.gov/st/english/article/2004/01/20040113191603atarukp0.6147425.html

http://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/iran

http://features.kodoom.com/en/iranian-diaspora/several-iranian-americans-on-forbes-30-under-30-most-successful-professionals/v/4019/

http://realiran.org/meet-the-top-15-most-successful-iranian-women-on-intl-womens-day/

Oh let me see the Shariff University in Iran ranks amongst one of the top universities and provides students that obtain scholarships in other countries...

But you don't want to see that do you? Because your brain is programmed in such a way to spread hate and blame for a nation and generalise every Iranian...

Go on finish off what you started!! Maybe Herr Oberfuhrer is suggesting sending those millions of devil eyeranians residing in america to gas chamber....

Revisit the history and educate yourself....

 

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1 minute ago, kactus said:

And???

America has always been a destination for immigrants from any country. This phenomenon has happened to a lot of countries for their people to emmigrate.

Why the hell is emphasis on Iran right now?

 

Because millions of Iranians who have either fled Iran or wish to do so know what Americans know.

Why have so many Iranians fled to the USA and other nations ?

Why don't so many Americans flee to Iran ?

It is because....Iran SUCKS.

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2 minutes ago, kactus said:

Oh wait the poor bad education...These are the things you don't want to see...

 

Deflection....not responsive.

Why have millions of "educated" and uneducated Iranians fled Iran ?  

Why have so many gone to the United States of America (Great Satan) ?

In comparison, how many Americans have fled to Iran ?

People voting with their feet is often the best indicator....Iranians have been voting with their feet for decades....to leave Iran.

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5 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Because millions of Iranians who have either fled Iran or wish to do so know what Americans know.

Why have so many Iranians fled to the USA and other nations ?

Why don't so many Americans flee to Iran ?

It is because....Iran SUCKS.

Let's assume that there is a remote possibility in your twisted argument you have point which you don't...

If Iran sucks then why are you talking about it so much? What is it with selective fixation on Eyeranians?

Why don't you talk about other countries that SUCK....Hmmmm!?

Go on finish it up. It's not as if all those millions of Eyeranians in the US or the indigenous population in Iran at large are chanting death to America....Because you certainly give this impression. It's an indoctrination that is filled with hate towards Iran and its population at large. Self inflicted... 

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1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Deflection....not responsive.

Why have millions of "educated" and uneducated Iranians fled Iran ?  

Why have so many gone to the United States of America (Great Satan) ?

In comparison, how many Americans have fled to Iran ?

People voting with their feet is often the best indicator....Iranians have been voting with their feet for decades....to leave Iran.

You are drifting...Get back to me when you have taken medication and calmed down. It's pretty early in the US...Normally around the time Trump goes on twitter...

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Just now, kactus said:

Why don't you talk about other countries that SUCK....Hmmmm!?
 

 

Because the thread topic is US vs Iran.  

For this topic, Iran sucks, and sucks so bad, millions of Iranian nationals have fled the country.

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Just now, kactus said:

You are drifting...Get back to me when you have taken medication and calmed down. It's pretty early in the US...Normally around the time Trump goes on twitter...

 

Personal attacks are the hallmark of a lost argument.    I will not report you because I want your post to stand for all to read.

Why - have - millions - of - Iranians - fled - Iran ?

 

 

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Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Because the thread topic is US vs Iran.  

For this topic, Iran sucks, and sucks so bad, millions of Iranian nationals have fled the country.

Fine Iran sucks according to you contrary to what educated sources say...

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Just now, kactus said:

Fine Iran sucks according to you contrary to what educated sources say...

 

No, my opinion is irrelevant compared to the opinions of all those Iranian feet leaving Iran.  

I guess Trump's travel ban upsets the outflow to the United States.

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3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Personal attacks are the hallmark of a lost argument.    I will not report you because I want your post to stand for all to read.

Why - have - millions - of - Iranians - fled - Iran ?

 

 

....Please do report me...Many sources are provided to read by those who have interest to educate themselves.

As regarding to your question. It's none of your god damn business. If I want to pursue a better life contributing to the society I will do it. You are not the policeman

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Just now, kactus said:

....Please do report me...Many sources are provided to read by those who have interest to educate themselves.

As regarding to your question. It's none of your god damn business. If I want to pursue a better life somewhere else I will do it. You are not the policeman

 

And that's because it is difficult to pursue a better life in a nation that sucks...like the Islamic Republic of Iran.

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Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

And that's because it is difficult to pursue a better life in a nation that sucks...like the Islamic Republic of Iran.

It is stupid to attack a whole nation and generalising based on your beliefs and what you are fed by the so called 'fake news'. Of course you are entitled to listen to it...I won't stop you. But I sure as hell will come down on those ignorant people who act with generalising...NEVER AGAIN!

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1 minute ago, kactus said:

It is stupid to attack a whole nation and generalising based on your beliefs and what you are fed by the so called 'fake news'. Of course you are entitled to listen to it...I won't stop you. But I sure as hell will come down on those ignorant people who act with generalising...NEVER AGAIN!

 

No big deal...other nationals do this all the time about the United States, including Canadians.   Iranians, just like Canadians all have generalized opinions about the USA and Americans, but they still emigrate to the U.S. far more than Americans go to Canada, and certainly more than they go to Iran.

 

 

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19 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

In comparison, how many Americans have fled to Iran ?

Don't know about Iran, but at least one has fled to Russia!

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I think most people can distinguish between the governments and its people.

Heard a clip of this on the CBC. I'm glad I found it. Zarif is an impressive speaker.

 

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1 minute ago, marcus said:

I think most people can distinguish between the governments and its people.

 

Agreed...and many Iranians have made this distinction to the point of fleeing their own people and government for the people and government of the United States and other nations.  Have done so for decades...

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Despite President Obama's failed Iran deal, he nevertheless left President Trump with plenty of newly developed military toys (and upgraded old toys) to systematically destroy Iran's nuclear weapons development capabilities, military infrastructure, and civilian infrastructure.

If the U.S. decides to bomb Iran, it will be with the latest American bells and whistles.  Iran would not be happy.

https://warisboring.com/the-u-s-air-force-has-lots-of-options-for-smashing-iran-s-nuclear-facilities-fa7812c0f28a#.pse08ubp3

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