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14 minutes ago, hot enough said:

....Why are we continuing to ask questions? Because of people like you, who support, avidly, and are satisfied with the half baked, nonsensical, unscientific, done in secret, fraudulent claims made a government who has a long and storied history of grand lies. A government that put in place a commission and two studies that grossly ignored reality to cover the butts of what we all know are war criminals. 

 

 

And there it is for all to see.....the true agenda...having nothing to do with the pursuit of science.

Any wild-ass conspiracy theory will do, because facts don't matter at all.

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LoL the most scientific approach from the state funded conspiracy theorists was "We dont need to research anything because we will believe in what we see."  and another scientific approach was "Acc

All the "adults" flee the topic when science is put forward and a 16 year old young lady describes all their mendacious ways to a T. She points out their illogic, beautifully, and incisively, and all

You insult yourself, B_C. Badly, repeatedly, advancing falsehoods you know are falsehoods. That says much about you. Do you think it says anything good? With all the science that has been put for

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bush_cheney2004 said: because facts don't matter at all.

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 7 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

The Windsor Tower fire readily demonstrates that steel framed structures can/do fail when exposed to high temperatures below steel's "melting point".

A U.S. interstate bridge collapsed just days ago because steel reinforced concrete failed when exposed to fire for a lengthy period.

 

I had said, "The WT fire doesn't show that at all and neither does your link to the US interstate bridge. I asked you to explain how "steel reinforced concrete" and steel framed office towers are the same and you still haven't addressed this." and you never addressed it. In fact, you did what you always do, flee, and then appear some pages later after you consider the dust has settled enough for you to advance your next fiction. 

After you answer this one, there are others waiting for you.

Don't facts matter to you at all?

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16 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Any wild-ass conspiracy theory will do, because facts don't matter at all.

Alleged hijackers bring down three towers with two planes, one falling at free fall speed, the other two, at accelerating speed. All of which is impossible.

But "Any wild-ass conspiracy theory will do, because facts don't matter at all."

US made nanothermites are found in the remains. US scientists state:

"These new materials have structures that can be controlled on the nanometer (billionth-of-a-meter) scale. Simpson explains, "In general, the smaller the size of the materials being combined, the better the properties of energetic materials. Since these `nanostructures' are formed with particles on the nanometer scale, the performance can be improved over materials with particles the size of grains of sand or of powdered sugar. In addition, these `nanocomposite' materials can be easier and much safer to make than those made with traditional methods." 

But, "Any wild-ass conspiracy theory will do, because facts don't matter at all".

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Were there any lies advanced to support the "wild ass" US conspiracy theory? You bet there were, there were many, some crazy wild ass lies that only real dupes, or much worse, avid supporters of these lies and this gigantic world tragedy, the murder and mayhem, would buy.

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Point G-1: A Claim Regarding Osama bin Laden

The Official Account
Osama bin Laden was responsible [1] for the 9/11 attacks.

The Best Evidence

The FBI did not list 9/11 [2] as one of the terrorist acts for which Osama bin Laden was wanted.

When asked why, Rex Tomb, when he was the head of investigative publicity for the FBI, stated [3] that the FBI had no hard evidence [4] connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.

Also, although Secretary of State Colin Powell, British Prime Minister Tony Blair, and the 9/11 Commission promised [5] to provide evidence of Bin Laden’s responsibility for the 9/11 attacks, they also failed. [6]

http://www.consensus911.org/point-g-1/

Yet, how many people still cling to the false notion that Osama bin Laden was involved in 9-11? Probably as many who believe in the "wild ass" US conspiracy theory that alleged hijackers can cause a 47 storey office tower to fall at free fall. 

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2 hours ago, hot enough said:

Were there any lies advanced to support the "wild ass" US conspiracy theory? You bet there were, there were many, some crazy wild ass lies that only real dupes, or much worse, avid supporters of these lies and this gigantic world tragedy, the murder and mayhem, would buy.

Yet, how many people still cling to the false notion that Osama bin Laden was involved in 9-11? Probably as many who believe in the "wild ass" US conspiracy theory that alleged hijackers can cause a 47 storey office tower to fall at free fall. 

The hijackers were anything but "alleged". Nor were the planes we all saw flying in at high speed. Have you found out yet what speed they were going?

 

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There are so many lies, so many falsehoods that have been advanced by the US government, the 911 Commission, NIST, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Pearl, Zelikow, Rice, Powell, ... that an honest person doesn't know where to turn. 
 
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Point Flt-1: A Claim Regarding Hijacked Passenger Jets

 
The Official Account

The 9/11 Commission Report holds that four airplanes (American Airlines flights 11 and 77, and United Airlines flights 93 and 175) were hijacked on 9/11. [1]

The Best Evidence

Pilots are trained to “squawk” the universal hijack code (7500) [2] on a transponder if they receive evidence of an attempted hijacking, thereby notifying FAA controllers on the ground. But leading newspapers and the 9/11 Commission pointed out that FAA controllers were not notified. [3]

A CNN story said that pilots are trained to send the hijack code “if possible.” [4] But entering the code takes only two or three seconds, whereas it took hijackers, according to the official story, more than 30 seconds to break into the pilots’ cabin of Flight 93. [5]

The fact that not one of the eight pilots performed this required action casts serious doubt on the hijacker story. [6]

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Most of the pilots were ex-military, obviously trained in hand to hand combat. That all eight just handed over the "hijacked" planes strains credulity. No squawks, no sounds of struggles, not one of the eight pilots saying one word about what was supposedly going on.

Anyone want to buy the Golden Gate Bridge, real cheap?

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40 minutes ago, hot enough said:

There are so many, hundreds of unanswered questions from you anti-truth folks on these pages. Perhaps you might want to help out Bush_Cheney with the questions that have her stumped. 

Seems to me on this issue at least B_C is aware of the facts as I am. But it is fun to listen to the same old junk from the conspiracy theorists being regurgitated. 

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6 minutes ago, Omni said:

Seems to me on this issue at least B_C is aware of the facts as I am. But it is fun to listen to the same old junk from the conspiracy theorists being regurgitated. 

That is very telling. Then help her out. She'll likely be angry with you because she is so thorough about backing up her notions with sources and strong arguments. 

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6 minutes ago, hot enough said:

That is very telling. Then help her out. She'll likely be angry with you because she is so thorough about backing up her notions with sources and strong arguments. 

It's not B_C that needs help with facts. 

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This issue was first raised in another thread but it deserves its own thread. Were there actually any real hijackers on 9-11? Again, the facts don't support it. There are so many gigantic holes in the US official conspiracy theory that you could fly a fleet of 747s thru them. 

This thread will also serve to highlight just what a joke the 911 Commission was and still is today. It didn't get the name The 911 Omission Commission for nothing. And that was all planned before it started. 

Hit it!

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What do you reckon happened?  Remote controlled planes?

Or do you think the Saudis and passengers were whisked off to another planet to help rebuild the human race, just before impact? (with apologies to John Varley)

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1 hour ago, hot enough said:

This issue was first raised in another thread but it deserves its own thread. Were there actually any real hijackers on 9-11? Again, the facts don't support it. There are so many gigantic holes in the US official conspiracy theory that you could fly a fleet of 747s thru them. 

This thread will also serve to highlight just what a joke the 911 Commission was and still is today. It didn't get the name The 911 Omission Commission for nothing. And that was all planned before it started. 

Hit it!

Maybe there were no hijackers. Maybe the pilots of 4 major airliners just all of a sudden went a little wonky and decided to fly into big buildings or maybe just crash into a cornfield. Maybe it was bad inflight meals that pissed them off?

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I have no idea but I was read that US govt find out the ID cards of hijackers from the debris, LoL :lol:

These hijackers always leave their ID card on the scene, in Diyarbkr/Turkiye, in Berlin/Germany, in Paris/France, in Newyork/US ^_^

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7 hours ago, bcsapper said:

What do you reckon happened?  Remote controlled planes?

Or do you think the Saudis and passengers were whisked off to another planet to help rebuild the human race, just before impact? (with apologies to John Varley)

What do you reckon happened? WTC7 was a controlled demolition, as were the twin towers. Is it that difficult for you to make logical deductions?

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3 hours ago, Altai said:

@hot enough

I have no idea but I was read that US govt find out the ID cards of hijackers from the debris, LoL :lol:

These hijackers always leave their ID card on the scene, in Diyarbkr/Turkiye, in Berlin/Germany, in Paris/France, in Newyork/US ^_^

Yup, the magical passport, stronger than a titanium airliner engine. This was one of the "investigations" little gems that was stuffed down the rabbit hole in a hell of a hurry. 

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Crash-Proof Passport

Hijacker's Passport and a Landing Gear Fragment Alone Survive Fiery Crash

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This illustration from Chapter 1 of FEMA's report shows what few pieces of aircraft debris passed entirely through the Towers. A charred fragment of landing gear on the intersection of West and Rector streets was the only piece they traced to Flight 11.

According to ABC News and the Associated Press, the passport of hijacker Satam Al Suqami was found a few blocks from the WTC. 1   2   The Guardian was skeptical: "the idea that Atta's passport had escaped from that inferno unsinged [tests] the credulity of the staunchest supporter of the FBI's crackdown on terrorism." 3   Note the passport did not belong to Atta, as is commonly claimed.

Satam Al Suqami was supposedly on Flight 11, the plane that hit the North Tower. In that collision, the building's core absorbed almost the entire airplane, which hit the northeast wall nearly dead center.

 

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