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In B.C. the coalition between NDP and Green Party is bad news.

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7 hours ago, Realitycheck said:

Oddly, having lived through the Dismal Decade, these reports ignore some salient points. For one thing, under the New Dithering Party, for the first time in its history BC became a "have-not" province. Further, the NDP so devastated the coffers they brought in taxes on dozens of things which were already paid for by existing taxation. In fact, they were so desperate for money they brought in a...Road Kill Tax. Yup, Road Kille Tax. If you struck a deer or other animal and took the carcass home for the larder, you had to weight it, report to the local gov office and pay a tax. Fortunately, at the next election, the NDP became road kill.  

In my personal opinion anyone who votes for the NDP or the Green party's are in serious need of medical help. This province has become so seriously f' up thanks to not only the NDP and Green party's but the liberal party also. We have archaic liquor laws. We have a government vehicle insurance company called ICBC that constantly goes deeper and deeper in debt every year. Last year ICBC lost two billion dollars. Typical of a government outfit. We are getting ripped off by the oil companies here in BC. It was $1,57 for a liter of gasoline in the Lower Mainland of Vancouver yesterday and will be going up soon because of a carbon tax that was imposed on gasoline several years ago and it goes up 2 cents a liter every year. 

The NDP will tax anything that they can get their greedy and grubby socialist/communist hands on. Taxing road kill is just one prime example of the political fools that are running and ruining BC. A total bunch of foolish idiots. And the NDP went and brought back the Human Rights(Wrongs)Commission again. All you conservatives, straights, Christians and white people better watch out what you say now. They will come for you if you do not tow the communist party line here in BC. The NDP pretty much wrecked Alberta and the NDP party in BC is following down the same path. Gawd when will the people of BC ever learn? There appears to be no common sense or logic at all being applied by the people here in BC. It's just more and more of constant emotionalism an silly foolish talk. 

British Columbia needs a real and true conservative party big time. A conservative party that believes in more freedom, less government and less taxes. That is all just a dream to me right now. A dream I hope one day will come soon in BC very soon. Gawd only know that BC needs a leader like Trump. Not the politicians that we have today here in BC.They are the shits.  

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18 minutes ago, taxme said:

In my personal opinion anyone who votes for the NDP or the Green party's are in serious need of medical help. This province has become so seriously f' up thanks to not only the NDP and Green party's but the liberal party also. We have archaic liquor laws. We have a government vehicle insurance company called ICBC that constantly goes deeper and deeper in debt every year. Last year ICBC lost two billion dollars. Typical of a government outfit. We are getting ripped off by the oil companies here in BC. It was $1,57 for a liter of gasoline yesterday and will be going up soon because of a carbon tax that was imposed on gasoline several years ago and it goes up 2 cents a liter every year.

The NDP will tax anything that they can get their greedy and grubby socialist/communist hands on. Taxing road kill is just one prime example of the political fools that are running and ruining BC. A total bunch of foolish idiots. And the NDP went and brought back the Human Rights(Wrongs)Commission again. All you conservatives, straights, Christians and white people better watch out what you say now. They will come for you if you do not tow the communist party line here in BC. The NDP pretty much wrecked Alberta and the NDP party in BC is following down the same path. Gawd when will the people of BC ever learn? There appears to be no common sense or logic at all being applied by the people here in BC. It's just more and more of constant emotionalism an silly foolish talk. 

British Columbia needs a real and true conservative party big time. A conservative party that believes in more freedom, less government and less taxes. That is all just a dream to me right now. A dream I hope one day will come soon in BC very soon. Gawd only know that BC needs a leader like Trump. Not the politicians that we have today here in BC.They are the shits.  

I agree with the first part. But you are out of your mind wanting a conservative government either provincially or federally. We sure as hell don't need a Chump type "leader" either. The very "Liberal" party you justly loathe so, is comprised largely of provincial conservatives as well. Fortunately, the provincial Conservatives are almost a total non-entity and likely to remain so. Federally, it is sad to say it looks like Scheer may well get elected thanks to Trudeau's incompetence and lies. That will be worse than keeping the current band of thieves and liars in place. Scheer is a man you would like, shallow, empty, pallid, bland. He is a typical US Republican right down to being a religious nutbar. Remember too, the federal Conservatives are in fact the failed "Reform Party" which was founded for and by religious nutbars. 

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2 minutes ago, Realitycheck said:

I agree with the first part. But you are out of your mind wanting a conservative government either provincially or federally. We sure as hell don't need a Chump type "leader" either. The very "Liberal" party you justly loathe so, is comprised largely of provincial conservatives as well. Fortunately, the provincial Conservatives are almost a total non-entity and likely to remain so. Federally, it is sad to say it looks like Scheer may well get elected thanks to Trudeau's incompetence and lies. That will be worse than keeping the current band of thieves and liars in place. Scheer is a man you would like, shallow, empty, pallid, bland. He is a typical US Republican right down to being a religious nutbar. Remember too, the federal Conservatives are in fact the failed "Reform Party" which was founded for and by religious nutbars. 

That politically correct wimp called Scheer is in no way a conservative. Scheer is just another Liberal in conservative clothing. Whether Trudeau or Scheer get to be the prime mistake of Canada in the next election will make no difference at all to we the people.They both are puppets on a string to the globalist elites like G. Soros. They both are buddies with Communist Soros. Commie Soros was happy when Hungary his home town was communist. Now he is attacking Hungary for it's freedom and it's leaders who despise Soros. 

The guy that I will be voting for is Maxine Bernier of The People's Party of Canada. I believe that Bernier is the only hope for Canada to get back on track and make this country great again. The other two will only want to make Canada worse than ever and will do so if one or the other get elected. They are both to way politically correct for my liking. Scheer talks like a wimp. There is no gusty in the guy. He is boring to listen too. Trudeau just babbles and in the end never said anything worth while listening too. I wish Scheer were like a Trump. Tell the people what they really need to hear. Not just more lies and bull shit. Voting for the Green party of the NDP party is asking for the destruction of Canada. Both communists they is. :unsure:

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17 minutes ago, taxme said:

That politically correct wimp called Scheer is in no way a conservative. Scheer is just another Liberal in conservative clothing. Whether Trudeau or Scheer get to be the prime mistake of Canada in the next election will make no difference at all to we the people.They both are puppets on a string to the globalist elites like G. Soros. They both are buddies with Communist Soros. Commie Soros was happy when Hungary his home town was communist. Now he is attacking Hungary for it's freedom and it's leaders who despise Soros. 

The guy that I will be voting for is Maxine Bernier of The People's Party of Canada. I believe that Bernier is the only hope for Canada to get back on track and make this country great again. The other two will only want to make Canada worse than ever and will do so if one or the other get elected. They are both to way politically correct for my liking. Scheer talks like a wimp. There is no gusty in the guy. He is boring to listen too. Trudeau just babbles and in the end never said anything worth while listening too. I wish Scheer were like a Trump. Tell the people what they really need to hear. Not just more lies and bull shit. Voting for the Green party of the NDP party is asking for the destruction of Canada. Both communists they is. :unsure:

Bernier's role in the next election will be solely as spoiler. This may be the only hope the Libs have of getting re-elected as Max will draw off a number of so-called conservative voters. NDP is less a political party and more a failed social movement. Greens are flakes through and through. 

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1 hour ago, Realitycheck said:

Bernier's role in the next election will be solely as spoiler. This may be the only hope the Libs have of getting re-elected as Max will draw off a number of so-called conservative voters. NDP is less a political party and more a failed social movement. Greens are flakes through and through. 

It could end up becoming a majority situation for either the conservatives or for the People's Party. But if that does not happen, well maybe, between the two of them they can both garner up enough votes to be able to form a minority government together. Better than another four more years of the prime mistake that we have now. Canada will not survive another four years of the feminist and admirer of China kid if voted back in power and left to run and ruin this country once and for all. Canada will truly become a real and true socialist/communist country as far as I am concerned. We can all see what the NDP and Green party's together are already doing to beautiful B.C. Canada has fast become one big gigantic ripoff country for we the taxpaying people. Between the government, the global banksters, the environmentalists and the oil companies I do not know which one is ripping us all off the most? But between those four they are sure doing quite the number on we the people. 

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That coalition in BC proves that the BC citizens did not get what they voted for.  What is proves is that a handful of people can control the destiny of the province.  Democracy should not work that way.

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3 hours ago, Ell said:

That coalition in BC proves that the BC citizens did not get what they voted for.  What is proves is that a handful of people can control the destiny of the province.  Democracy should not work that way.

On the news this morning, the NDP communists have said that all schools in BC by the end of 2019 will now be forced to supply menstrual products in all schools in BC. WHT is this? This is so typical of a government that believes in socialism. Take other people's tax dollars and blow them on others. How does this work for the boys in school? Will the NDP commies now supply condoms for boys now in schools in BC? I mean after all, we are talking about equality here.

Why do I as a taxpayer have to be forced to pay for girls needs? Why cannot they pay for their own menstrual products themselves and bring them to school like it always has been? The more the government gets bigger, the more things just seem to get worse and crazy and more taxes dollar being blown needlessly. Even the BC minister for education said that she was quite proud and pleased to announce this wonderful program with a nice big fat communist smile on her face. NDP????? The NDP and the Greenies are really bad news for the taxpayer's of BC. But the people wanted the NDP in power no matter what the price. Well, they got it and are paying the price. The people of Alberta have had enough of the NDP communists in that province and it looks like the NDP will become toast after the election. I say, good riddance to bad rubbish. :lol:

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On 4/5/2019 at 1:07 PM, taxme said:

On the news this morning, the NDP communists have said that all schools in BC by the end of 2019 will now be forced to supply menstrual products in all schools in BC. WHT is this? This is so typical of a government that believes in socialism. Take other people's tax dollars and blow them on others. How does this work for the boys in school? Will the NDP commies now supply condoms for boys now in schools in BC? I mean after all, we are talking about equality here.

Why do I as a taxpayer have to be forced to pay for girls needs? Why cannot they pay for their own menstrual products themselves and bring them to school like it always has been? The more the government gets bigger, the more things just seem to get worse and crazy and more taxes dollar being blown needlessly. Even the BC minister for education said that she was quite proud and pleased to announce this wonderful program with a nice big fat communist smile on her face. NDP????? The NDP and the Greenies are really bad news for the taxpayer's of BC. But the people wanted the NDP in power no matter what the price. Well, they got it and are paying the price. The people of Alberta have had enough of the NDP communists in that province and it looks like the NDP will become toast after the election. I say, good riddance to bad rubbish. :lol:

The NDP aren't savvy enough to be communists. They are dedicated, small "s" socialists. We'll be rid of them soon enough and get a free enterprise party back in power which will be as corrupt as the NDP,, but the economy will sail along nicely.

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On 3/28/2019 at 1:19 PM, Realitycheck said:

 . . . you are out of your mind wanting a Conservative government either provincially or federally. We sure as hell don't need a Chump type 'leader' either. The very 'Liberal' party you justly loathe so, is comprised largely of provincial Conservatives as well. Fortunately, the provincial Conservatives are almost a total non-entity and likely to remain so. Federally, it is sad to say it looks like Scheer may well get elected thanks to Trudeau's incompetence and lies. That will be worse than keeping the current band of thieves and liars in place. Scheer is a man you would like, shallow, empty, pallid, bland. He is a typical US Republican right down to being a religious nutbar. Remember too, the federal Conservatives are in fact the failed 'Reform Party' which was founded for and by religious nutbars. 

 

What would be the best Federal government ?

Lots of assumptions in your diatribe.

Tell us what's best for us . . . 

 

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On 5/1/2019 at 6:06 PM, Nefarious Banana said:

What would be the best Federal government ?

Lots of assumptions in your diatribe.

Tell us what's best for us . . . 

 

I think a minority Lib government would be best or at second best a minority Con/Reform party. No majority means no drastic actions. No assumptions at all. Pure fact. You decide what is best for you. 

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On 3/28/2019 at 12:54 PM, taxme said:

In my personal opinion anyone who votes for the NDP or the Green party's are in serious need of medical help.

Ha-ha-ha   This would be more than 50% of Canadians including me.

The TM project is another harmful and risky initiative at a time when our oceans are choking with plastic pollution, traffic, noise and all types of other industrial impacts including radioactive contamination.

It does not benefit Canadians as a whole and has nothing to do with providing cheaper fuel to the rest of Canada.

As for jobs, I get sick and tired of listening how jobs are created for Canadians, only to see 300,000 Chinese and East Indians brought from overseas to do those jobs every year. 

So , no thanks to KM.  The Site C  - Peace River dam is bad enough to make us suffer for a long time.

 

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20 hours ago, cougar said:

Ha-ha-ha   This would be more than 50% of Canadians including me.

The TM project is another harmful and risky initiative at a time when our oceans are choking with plastic pollution, traffic, noise and all types of other industrial impacts including radioactive contamination.

It does not benefit Canadians as a whole and has nothing to do with providing cheaper fuel to the rest of Canada.

As for jobs, I get sick and tired of listening how jobs are created for Canadians, only to see 300,000 Chinese and East Indians brought from overseas to do those jobs every year. 

So , no thanks to KM.  The Site C  - Peace River dam is bad enough to make us suffer for a long time.

 

I’m curious as to what others on here think, but I’ve discovered over the years that the anti-development extreme environmentalist tends either to come from wealth and therefore doesn’t really have to worry too much about pesky things like having  a job and cost of living or else it’s the society drop out type who may be poor but in any event hasn’t worked very much or had to function in the real world where things are built and sacrifices are made.  The NDP paint the doers of the world as the rich patriarchy and promise to be Robin Hood.  Their empowerment always ends the same way, with big debts, broken promises they couldn’t afford to keep, and businesses fleeing the jurisdiction.  

Where the NDP are about redistribution of wealth to the poor, earned or not, the Greens are about asceticism, reducing consumption and waste.  It sounds good at first glance.  It means people will have and consume less.  It’s a lean, mean lifestyle.  It seems progressive, but then I remember that the founder of Earth Day murdered his wife and Hitler was a vegetarian.  All that glitters is not gold.  Whether it’s a Green or an NDP government, if you work for a living, expect to have less.  If the people of your province want that, knock yourselves out.  The suits in the steak houses on Bay Street and Wall Street think you’re all suckers, which is fine.  You’re better than they are, right?

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29 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I’m curious as to what others on here think, but I’ve discovered over the years that the anti-development extreme environmentalist tends either to come from wealth and therefore doesn’t really have to worry too much about pesky things like having  a job and cost of living or else it’s the society drop out type who may be poor but in any event hasn’t worked very much or had to function in the real world where things are built and sacrifices are made.  

 

What do you drive; a car or a truck?  Do you have a boat; a 4 wheelere, a snowmobile?   Do you live in a big city or a small place in good natural settings?

You seem to generalize and this is where you make the mistake.

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47 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

The suits in the steak houses on Bay Street and Wall Street think you’re all suckers, which is fine.  You’re better than they are, right?

You're right, everyone should act more like a steak-house suit.  Then everything will be better.

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32 minutes ago, cougar said:

What do you drive; a car or a truck?  Do you have a boat; a 4 wheelere, a snowmobile?   Do you live in a big city or a small place in good natural settings?

You seem to generalize and this is where you make the mistake.

I live outside Toronto.  While I think those scenic settings where you live are nice, I don’t see how pipelines negatively impact them, especially since building them means less distribution by truck and train.  I’ve spent a lot of time at a family cottage in Muskoka, and I introduced the idea of the Greenbelt boundary that now exists around the Greater Golden Horseshoe to government in 1998.  There are some negative unintended consequences of the greenbelt, such as leapfrog settlements that people have to drive far to reach, as well as the loss of developable land, driving up home prices.  Nevertheless I don’t regret the greenbelt.  Don’t forget that people have to work for a living and not everyone can live in the country.  Protect the environment and balance its protection with other needs, but be careful of getting too precious about it.  

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3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You're right, everyone should act more like a steak-house suit.  Then everything will be better.

I don’t eat or want much steak, nor have I ever enjoyed wearing suits.  I’m giving you their perspective, and I don’t think they’re worse than the ascetic morality squad that want to take more of your money and shut down development in the name of some future shock that may not happen or to protect someone’s nature view.  I support balance and moderation on climate change and economic development.  

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37 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I live outside Toronto.  While I think those scenic settings where you live are nice, I don’t see how pipelines negatively impact them

I have lived in Toronto, Brantford, Kamloops and where I am now.  And I see very well where things are going.   We had 28'C today and hazy skies, and this in May!   The pipeline only adds to a number of other "projects" under development; and believe me, nothings scares me more than the word "project"!  If I hear about a project, it is close to someone waging  a war on me.

A pipeline runs through thousands of kilometers of wilderness and mountains.  It can never be safe.  I am not going to give you all the arguments against as those are out there.   I do not believe in the market economy where a mountain of raw materials is shipped to another continent to get converted into finished goods that are in turn shipped across the ocean.  Energy wise it makes absolutely no sense.  We are also becoming dependent on the countries who manufacture the goods.

When I was a kid, I was taught that a developing country relies on its row resources for most of its GDP; a developed country would import the raw materials and convert them into value added product and profit from that.  Where does this classification put Canada?  We have been shafted by our government; left dependent on Asia and forced to destroy our environment to survive!

You live in Toronto , which is a developed area already and you can not see much of what is going on.  I am in the area where the new roads are blasted in the mountains and those 300 year old trees are cut down and where the logging trucks run on the highway like an endless train, where the new pipelines are proposed and where the train and truck traffic is on the increase.

We get more and more wildfires every year, but no one wants to admit the relationship between industrial activities, burning fossil fuels, deforestation and the dry hot summers.

And in some ways we have no choice.  The country has been run by stupid politicians who wanted to make a quick buck on selling natural resources and immigration (related to real estate prices and all types of consumption).  We have become a human farm thriving on low tech activities.

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21 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I don’t eat or want much steak, nor have I ever enjoyed wearing suits.  I’m giving you their perspective, and I don’t think they’re worse than the ascetic morality squad that want to take more of your money and shut down development in the name of some future shock that may not happen or to protect someone’s nature view.  I support balance and moderation on climate change and economic development.  

You also support the perspective that treating everyone like they were suckers is better.

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2 hours ago, eyeball said:

You also support the perspective that treating everyone like they were suckers is better.

Not at all.  I’m just telling you the prevailing opinion south of the border and in many parts of Europe and the world at large.  Canada is somewhat on its own waging these wars on climate change and human rights abuses.  Our voice matters and we need to act within our own country to have credibility internationally in trying to sway opinion.  I just see other issues pushing this whole debate down the list of people’s priorities because future generations simply won’t have the lifestyle to which older generations became accustomed and that we consider a good middle class lifestyle, including home ownership, travel, having some job security, and maybe a personal vehicle.  These changes are underway without adding insult to injury with big carbon taxes on consumers, and using fear to persuade people to buy in.  The current US administration is relying on adaptation and technology.  They’re our main market.  If they don’t want to pay to make serious reductions, we’re just making ourselves that much less competitive by adding costs to businesses and individuals.  We are carbon based and live at the expense of the universe.  

I merely suggest setting affordable climate policies that solve additional problems at the same time, such as providing better transit, doing better urban planning, and revising the building code for better energy savings.  It’s as much as we can handle.  The oil sands will get shut down through international pressure soon enough.  Meanwhile the Saudis mistreat political opponents and hold the hand of the “leader of the free world.”   That’s reality and we should be wise to it.  No one is advocating for destroying vast swaths of wilderness and we need to develop carefully, but be careful that we don’t shoot future generations in the feet economically while China, the US and other powers do as they like and eat our lunch.  

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On 6/4/2017 at 8:56 PM, eyeball said:

Breathing mercury is what made lighthouse keepers in the past often go mad. To keep the light perfectly level with the horizon they floated their lamp on a pool of liquid mercury...which then vapourized with the heat the lamp produced.  Made their brains rot faster than Fox News or Breitbart.

"Here I sit, as 'mad as a hatter' . . . 

The world outside making me madder and madder . . . "

A poem written by a mental institution patient.

The 'Mad Hatter' character from Alice in Wonderland is a direct reference to Canada and the fur trade. Top hats made from beaver felt were all the rage in Europe. Beaver hair is straight. This is to shed water better. The guard hairs were removed from the pelt, and the thick fine underhair was then shaved from the pelt. This is what was felted to make the hat. Being that the hair was straight and all but impossible to felt, it was treated with mercury. Mercury made the hair kink and twist. Eventually, the hat maker would show signs of mental stress . . . known as 'madness'  Hence the reference 'mad as a hatter'

Fashion being fickle . . . . beaver felt went out of fashion, and silk top hats were the rage in Europe.

Trappers were the first to open the country up . . . everyone else followed.

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Think of the logger everytime you reach for the toilet paper . . . 

Or go 'green' and wipe your arse on a leaf.

Cougar, you seem to be against everything . . . . please show us your 'blueprint' for a better Canadian society.

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1 hour ago, Nefarious Banana said:

"Here I sit, as 'mad as a hatter' . . . 

The world outside making me madder and madder . . . "

A poem written by a mental institution patient.

The 'Mad Hatter' character from Alice in Wonderland is a direct reference to Canada and the fur trade. Top hats made from beaver felt were all the rage in Europe. Beaver hair is straight. This is to shed water better. The guard hairs were removed from the pelt, and the thick fine underhair was then shaved from the pelt. This is what was felted to make the hat. Being that the hair was straight and all but impossible to felt, it was treated with mercury. Mercury made the hair kink and twist. Eventually, the hat maker would show signs of mental stress . . . known as 'madness'  Hence the reference 'mad as a hatter'

Fashion being fickle . . . . beaver felt went out of fashion, and silk top hats were the rage in Europe.

Trappers were the first to open the country up . . . everyone else followed.

Moral of the story being, beware of lighthouse keepers wearing top-hats.

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On 4/6/2019 at 7:11 PM, Realitycheck said:

The NDP aren't savvy enough to be communists. They are dedicated, small "s" socialists. We'll be rid of them soon enough and get a free enterprise party back in power which will be as corrupt as the NDP,, but the economy will sail along nicely.

Go away with that nonsense that the NDP are not savvy enough to be communists. The NDP are all for more big government, and not less. They hate freedom. They love their Human Rights Communist Commissions. Your leftist liberal ilk have done nothing to help make Canada great but bloody worse. There are two free enterprise party's in Canada now. Does Doug Ford and Jason Kenney ring a bell to you by chance? Both conservative minded politicians. They are both going to get rid of many socialist NDP and leftist liberal bullshit programs and agendas that have been destroying this once great WASP/European nation. The economy will sail along a lot better once the NDP communists and the leftist liberals buffoons have become extinct. 

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2 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Think of the logger everytime you reach for the toilet paper . . . 

Or go 'green' and wipe your arse on a leaf.

Cougar, you seem to be against everything . . . . please show us your 'blueprint' for a better Canadian society.

Socialists, communists, liberals, environmentalists do not have a blueprint on how to run a country properly. They only know as to how to draw up a blueprint on how destroy an economy and a prosperous country into the ground. Their constant foolish politically correct emotional talk lacks any kind of common sense and logic is their problem. They cannot seem to understand that we the people want less government, and less taxes, and more freedom. A party that pushes for those three will end up being the party that will run the country. Canada needs more jobs, and less unemployment. 

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