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We now sit in the position where all the science says, unequivocally, that it was totally impossible for Arab hijackers to have caused the collapses of WTCs 1, 2 and 7.

The presence of nanothermite in WTC dust, impossible for any hijackers; the molten/vaporized metals, impossible for any hijackers; WTC7 free fall, impossible for any hijackers; WTCs 1 & 2, impossible for any hijackers; molten steel pouring out of WTC2, impossible for any hijackers; the total pulverization of WTCs 1 & 2, impossible for any hijackers; all the bombs/reports of explosions, impossible for any hijackers; all the other impossibilities in the USGOCT which makes it impossible for any hijackers to have been involved.

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11 minutes ago, hot enough said:

it was totally impossible for Arab hijackers to have caused the collapses of WTCs 1, 2 and 7.

You're correct. The hijackers didn't cause the buildings to collapse. They simply caused the planes to fly into the buildings, which, along with fire, caused them to collapse.

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We now sit in the position where all the science says, unequivocally, that it was totally impossible for Arab hijackers to have caused the collapses of WTCs 1, 2 and 7.

The presence of nanothermite in WTC dust, impossible for any hijackers; the molten/vaporized metals, impossible for any hijackers; WTC7 free fall, impossible for any hijackers; WTCs 1 & 2, impossible for any hijackers; molten steel pouring out of WTC2, impossible for any hijackers; the total pulverization of WTCs 1 & 2, impossible for any hijackers; all the bombs/reports of explosions, impossible for any hijackers; all the other impossibilities in the USGOCT which makes it impossible for any hijackers to have been involved.

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1 hour ago, hot enough said:

We now sit in the position where all the science says, unequivocally, that it was totally impossible for Arab hijackers to have caused the collapses of WTCs 1, 2 and 7.

The presence of nanothermite in WTC dust, impossible for any hijackers; the molten/vaporized metals, impossible for any hijackers; WTC7 free fall, impossible for any hijackers; WTCs 1 & 2, impossible for any hijackers; molten steel pouring out of WTC2, impossible for any hijackers; the total pulverization of WTCs 1 & 2, impossible for any hijackers; all the bombs/reports of explosions, impossible for any hijackers; all the other impossibilities in the USGOCT which makes it impossible for any hijackers to have been involved.

So how did the explosives you dream about get installed in the building? We're all waiting to hear what sort of hocus pocus you will try to apply to that. 

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9 hours ago, Omni said:

So how did the explosives you dream about get installed in the building? We're all waiting to hear what sort of hocus pocus you will try to apply to that. 

Why are you so dead set in denying reality, Omni? You are like the racists who operate on memes, no evidence, just right wing memes. 

Even when proof positive is set right in front of your eyes, not just a little but volumes of evidence that illustrate clearly that the USGOCT is bunko, bogus, a mess of lies and still you rabidly deny reality, joined now on rare occasions by other folks who also totally avoid reality. 

Not a one of you has ever provided any evidence for the totally wacko USGOCT. 

Top scientists have described the nanothermite found in WTC dust. Again, to put reality squarely in front of your nose for you to deny once again, this is established science, peer reviewed, one peer reviewer is one of the top physicists in the USA, the man who was charged with investigating the moon rocks, thee scientist who agreed to debate any scientist who wanted to step up and defend the USGOCT and not a one has ever done so, despite having been directly asked to do so.

This science has not been challenged in any scientific fashion, you know this, you have not brought any forward because there is none. Dollars to donuts, you will return to your tired old meme. 

You not only ignore these stark realities, you ignore myriad other total impossibilities concerning the USGOCT that illustrate it has zero chance of being true. 

Instead you continue with these same childish comments. Why? 

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11 hours ago, Omni said:

like toms[sic]of explosives secretly placed at a busy office building'[sic]

That's absolutely correct. Finally you admit, with your usual poor English, that nanothermite was placed in the three towers. The same nanothermite that was found in WTC dust. The by products of these thermitic reactions, all found in huge volumes. All these facts make the USGOCT arrant nonsense.

Hal9000 knows this, you know this, Michael Hardner knows this, anyone with half a brain knows this. 

The exceedingly goofy USGOCT has way way too many holes in it, holes that you could fly a 767-200 through. In fact, it's one gigantic hole because there is no evidence to support it. 

 

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All these silly science deniers. What is wrong with people that they can be so demented as to deny stark reality. It is rampant here at MLW. 

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Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe

Niels H. Harrit*,1, Jeffrey Farrer2 , Steven E. Jones*,3, Kevin R. Ryan4 , Frank M. Legge5 , Daniel Farnsworth2 , Gregg Roberts6 , James R. Gourley7 and Bradley R. Larsen3 1 Department of Chemistry, University of Copenhagen, Denmark 2 Department of Physics and Astronomy, Brigham Young University, Provo, UT 84602, USA 3 S&J Scientific Co., Provo, UT, 84606, USA 4 9/11 Working Group of Bloomington, Bloomington, IN 47401, USA 5 Logical Systems Consulting, Perth, Western Australia 6 Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth, Berkeley, CA 94704, USA 7 International Center for 9/11 Studies, Dallas, TX 75231, USA

Abstract: We have discovered distinctive red/gray chips in all the samples we have studied of the dust produced by the destruction of the World Trade Center. Examination of four of these samples, collected from separate sites, is reported in this paper. These red/gray chips show marked similarities in all four samples. One sample was collected by a Manhattan resident about ten minutes after the collapse of the second WTC Tower, two the next day, and a fourth about a week later. The properties of these chips were analyzed using optical microscopy, scanning electron microscopy (SEM), X-ray energy dispersive spectroscopy (XEDS), and differential scanning calorimetry (DSC).

The red material contains grains approximately 100 nm across which are largely iron oxide, while aluminum is contained in tiny plate-like structures. Separation of components using methyl ethyl ketone demonstrated that elemental aluminum is present. The iron oxide and aluminum are intimately mixed in the red material.

To aid those who are challenged by the inability to read and comprehend, the above paragraph describes the nano scale of these unreacted nanothermite particles.

When ignited in a DSC device the chips exhibit large but narrow exotherms occurring at approximately 430 C, far below the normal ignition temperature for conventional thermite. Numerous iron-rich spheres are clearly observed in the residue following the ignition of these peculiar red/gray chips. The red portion of these chips is found to be an unreacted thermitic material and highly energetic.

The above paragraph describes how easily this new US government, 1990s discovered nanothermite can be ignited, how explosive, how energetic it is, which is exactly how the US Lawrence Livermore Lab scientists who made this discovery describe the new super thermites, the nano scale thermites. See below and at link.

 

 

Nanoscale Chemistry Yields Better Explosives

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These new materials have structures that can be controlled on the nanometer (billionth-of-a-meter) scale. Simpson explains, "In general, the smaller the size of the materials being combined, the better the properties of energetic materials. Since these `nanostructures' are formed with particles on the nanometer scale, the performance can be improved over materials with particles the size of grains of sand or of powdered sugar. In addition, these `nanocomposite' materials can be easier and much safer to make than those made with traditional methods."

 

https://str.llnl.gov/str/RSimpson.html

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It's a puzzle why all these truth seekers, left and right, have such a difficult time operating in a zone of reality. Let's take another brief look at reality. My comments to the following will be in red.

http://www.consensus911.org/point-tt-6/

Point TT-6: The Claim that There Was No Molten Steel or Iron in the WTC
Point TT-6: Buildings

<< Previous Point, Next Point >>

Introduction

According to the official account, the Twin Towers were brought down by airplane impacts and fire, and in the case of WTC 7, by fire alone. One implication of this account is that the destruction would have produced no molten steel or molten iron (which is produced in a thermite reaction).

Yes, iron microspheres, some 6% of WTC dust, which are produced in THERMITE REACTIONS! Where could this thermite, actually nanothermite have come from. Remember, you have to operate in reality.

Structural steel does not begin to melt until it reaches about 1,482°C (2,700°F), and iron does not melt until it reaches 1,538°C (2,800°F). [1] The fires ignited by the plane crashes, even with the help of jet fuel, could not have been hotter than 1,000°C (1,832°F), meaning that they would have been at least 1000 degrees F. cooler than what would be necessary to melt steel/iron.

The presence of molten steel or iron, therefore, would have implied that the building steel had been melted by something other than the airplane impacts and the resulting fires.

Yes, reality bites. There is absolutely no logical explanation to be found in the entire US government official conspiracy theory that can explain the molten steel, the iron microspheres, the molten molybdenum, the vaporized lead. 

 

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Doesn't it bother anyone just how delusional most people in western societies are?

 

George W Bush describes the bombs and explosions in the twin towers before they were blown up. "They" means the firemen, police, etc.

"I had a job to do,” he says. “They had a job to do, but I didn’t see the horrific scenes they saw nor did I get concussed by the loud explosions and the bombs that went off around them.” 

And here is a video showing those explosions. What would those poor people have been thinking/saying?

"What the hell is our government doing to us?"

WTC Demolition Flashes (ON VIDEO)

 

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13 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

No...

Why are you being so cagey? Bush described the bombs and explosions that were going off in the twin towers before they were blown up. Just as so many others have. Firemen, police, eyewitnesses, reporters,  news anchors... . There are numerous videos where reporters are surprised by bombs going off, videos where people are surprised by explosions, where fireman/police say "Stay back that building [WTC7] is about to blow up."

Did you watch the video? Did you see the shock waves move the window blinds? Did you see the human exploded out a twin tower window?

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4 minutes ago, hot enough said:

...Did you watch the video? Did you see the shock waves move the window blinds? Did you see the human exploded out a twin tower window?

 

No....it really doesn't matter.   Humans jump out of windows all the time.

The could choose smoking...or non-smoking.

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12 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

No....it really doesn't matter.   Humans jump out of windows all the time.

It matters when you aren't attempting to advance this transparent lie you have caught yourself in. The video is very clear, the human was exploded out of the window.

We know from your own voice that you totally support the US government murdering children, raping women and children, slashing women's breasts off and other various and sundry US evils, but why do you support the US government murdering Americans? 

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2 hours ago, hot enough said:

It matters when you aren't attempting to advance this transparent lie you have caught yourself in. The video is very clear, the human was exploded out of the window.

 

 

I'm sure it mattered a lot to many humans in WTC1 and WTC2 that day.   

Nano-thermite...not so much.

 

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We know from your own voice that you totally support the US government murdering children, raping women and children, slashing women's breasts off and other various and sundry US evils, but why do you support the US government murdering Americans? 

 

Like...totally.    But off topic.

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19 hours ago, hot enough said:

Doesn't it bother anyone just how delusional most people in western societies are?

 

George W Bush describes the bombs and explosions in the twin towers before they were blown up. "They" means the firemen, police, etc.

"I had a job to do,” he says. “They had a job to do, but I didn’t see the horrific scenes they saw nor did I get concussed by the loud explosions and the bombs that went off around them.” 

And here is a video showing those explosions. What would those poor people have been thinking/saying?

"What the hell is our government doing to us?"

WTC Demolition Flashes (ON VIDEO)

 

The only time that we may ever get to know and learn the truth as to what really brought the twin towers down is when all of the key players involved in the bombing and bringing down of those buildings are all dead and gone. Until then the cover up will continue. The system is run and controlled by a very powerful globalist elite who pretty much can do whatever they want to without worrying about any consequences for their actions or any actions being taken against them. And still no one can explain as to why Building #7 came tumbling down at the same time. Now that cannot be just washed away. The system is rigged and run by the elite corporate globalists, and their control of the mainstream media is doing a fantastic job of keeping the lid on all that happened that day. It must be a great feeling to know that one can do whatever they want and be able to get away with it. It must be nice to be rich and haveall that power and influence. I am jealous. :D

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Extreme left and right agree.... 9/11 was an inside job !

Meanwhile, we still have no motive, leader, or evidence.  There is an open source paper published that claims flakes of explosive residue were collected from the streets of NY but... this whole industry remains an artifact of the paranoid entertainment sphere, which is a necessary blemish in a society with free information.

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12 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Extreme left and right agree.... 9/11 was an inside job !

Meanwhile, we still have no motive, leader, or evidence.  There is an open source paper published that claims flakes of explosive residue were collected from the streets of NY but... this whole industry remains an artifact of the paranoid entertainment sphere, which is a necessary blemish in a society with free information.

Motive : Starting the War on Terror, could not start the WOT in Iraq and Afghanistan without the public questioning it. After 9/11 the USA was balls to the wall, lock and load style.

Motive : WTC was at it's lowet occupancy since opening

Motive : Was going to cost billions to clean up the towers to bring them up to modern standards (asbestos)

Motive : Silverstein took out new terrorism insurance policies a couple months before the attacks and actually took the insurance company to court claiming it was two separate attacks and was awarded 4.5 BILLION dollars.

 

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26 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

Motive : Starting the War on Terror, could not start the WOT in Iraq and Afghanistan without the public questioning it. After 9/11 the USA was balls to the wall, lock and load style.

They started the Iraq war by lying about a WMD report.  Certainly they could have invaded Afghanistan without destroying their own symbols of power and killing thousands of their own citizens.  Those wars have been scaled down now.  If there was such value in having it what happened ?

 

26 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

Motive : WTC was at it's lowet occupancy since opening

So the landlord, Silverstein, was able to launch history's most expensive grease fire marshalling NATO, commanding passenger planes, and blowing up the building at the end for good measure.  I'm glad he's not my landlord.

 

26 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

Motive : Was going to cost billions to clean up the towers to bring them up to modern standards (asbestos)

See above.

 

26 minutes ago, GostHacked said:

Motive : Silverstein took out new terrorism insurance policies a couple months before the attacks and actually took the insurance company to court claiming it was two separate attacks and was awarded 4.5 BILLION dollars.

See above.  Also I have looked into these allegations in the past and they overstate what he got from this.  They understate losses and miss out on lost rent too. It's also ridiculous to assume that someone would take a risk like this gambling on outcomes of lawsuits.

 

Here's Silverstein's insurance story - wherein he tried to buy the least he could !

https://www.forbes.com/2003/09/11/cx_da_0911silverstein.html

In its court papers, Swiss Re shows how Silverstein first tried to buy just $1.5 billion in property damage and business-interruption coverage. When his lenders objected, he discussed buying a $5 billion policy. Ultimately, he settled on the $3.5 billion figure, which was less than the likely cost of rebuilding. 

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2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Extreme left and right agree.... 9/11 was an inside job !

Meanwhile, we still have no motive, leader, or evidence.  nformation.

There is so much proof/evidence that the USGOCT is a total lie, any one piece of such evidence is enough but you, Michael,  for some unfathomable reason keep up this delusional game. Why do you deny reality, Michael? 

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There is an open source paper published that claims flakes of explosive residue were collected from the streets of NY but...

You are either ignorant of the facts or you are lying. Either one doesn't say much about you. You speak all the BS lines about having free, open, honest dialogue and then you pull this crap, which is all you have ever done. 

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1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

They started the Iraq war by lying about a WMD report.  Certainly they could have invaded Afghanistan without destroying their own symbols of power and killing thousands of their own citizens.  Those wars have been scaled down now.  If there was such value in having it what happened ?

You are dishonestly downplaying it, Michael. 

One of the indisputable real issues is that everyone, engineers, reporters, news media, architects were all talking about the molten steel. Why? Because there was molten steel. It was a hot topic as you can see from the following short video. 

Molten steel, actually anything molten except for aluminum, is TOTALLY impossible which means that the alleged hijackers [said hijackers, for which there is no evidence] did not bring down the three towers. 

Why would all these building professionals describe molten steel if there was no molten steel? 

Why do you deny such stark realities as the molten iron seen flowing from WTC2, Michael?

9/11 - The Deep Mystery and The Crazy Engineers

 

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2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Extreme left and right agree.... 9/11 was an inside job !

Sensible people, who are honest enough to look at the evidence, know that Muslims didn't do what the US government said they did. 

How do you explain GW Bush describing the bombs/explosions in the PEOPLE magazine story, Michael?

How do you explain the human being blown out of the twin tower window?

How do you explain the explosions that are apparent in the video, WTC Demolition Flashes?

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