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I get the impression that the Dominicans dont like the Haitians very much and dont want them in their country. Perhaps they have a good reason for their dislike.

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On 8/14/2017 at 11:22 PM, -TSS- said:

I get the impression that the Dominicans dont like the Haitians very much and dont want them in their country. Perhaps they have a good reason for their dislike.

Maybe some left wing liberal can tell us why this may be so? 

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On 8/6/2017 at 4:54 AM, betsy said:

It hasn't been a year since it was pridefully declared a sanctuary city, and with the arrival of Haitians....... Montreal is groaning already! This is nothing. This is simply the beginning.

 

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/influx-of-haitian-refugees-taxes-quebec-shelters-immigration-minister-says

 

How can they be that shortsighted?  Didn't they know what entails being a sanctuary?

I think that our politically correct multicultural politicians need to seek medical attention asap. Just saying. :D

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On 8/6/2017 at 4:08 PM, hot enough said:

You wished for US/UK war crimes/terrorism because you knew they had lied their asses off. You knew that the US/UK illegal invasions of so many sovereign nations would cause a huge refugee program. You'd be one of the first chickenshits to flee a country that had US/UK war crimes/terrorism committed against it. 

Instead you sit comfortable and whine about people who have had equal or worse things done to them than the Nazis did during WWII and still you support the evil. 

Ah yes, those old nasty Nazi's again. You could have said Stalin or Mao or Pol Pot? But hey, you did not. Sad.  :rolleyes:

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On 8/6/2017 at 4:22 PM, jacee said:

“They flew out of their country after the earthquake and they don’t want to to go back there because there is no hope in the country. They are seeking some place to live,” she said. “Leaving with your children, it’s a very desperate move.” 

It remains to be seen whether Canada’s Immigration and Refugee Board rules it’s enough.

Not a problem. It's handled. They'll be processed, maybe more quickly depending on which province they elect to go to.

About 60% may be successful.

Informative article. Thanks.

I can't see how Haiti is a "safe country" for them to return to:

The crisis hindered the Haitian government’s ability to meet the basic needs of its people, resolve longstanding human rights problems, or address continuing humanitarian crises, even as a new crisis emerged. In October 2016, Hurricane Matthew, a devastating storm, hit Haiti’s southwest. President Privert estimated the losses surpassed the entire national budget and warned of an impending serious food crisis, driven by the loss of crops from the storm.

As of August, authorities had failed to assist many of the 61,000 individuals still living in displacement camps since the 2010 earthquake to resettle or return to their places of origin, and many continued to face environmental risks and the threat of forced evictions. An ongoing drought affecting much of the country pushed the number of people living with food insecurity to one-third of the population.

Haiti’s cholera epidemic has claimed more than 9,300 lives and infected more than 780,000 people in five years. There were more than 21,000 suspected cases and, as of July, 200 deaths in 2016. Cholera cases surged in October in the communities most impacted by Hurricane Matthew. 

It's  just one blow after another in Haiti since the earthquake. They'd be in displacement camps there, if Haiti even agreed to accommodate them at all.

We can accommodate 150/day somewhere in Canada.

But the Haitian people received all kinds of help. Billions of dollars were donated. Construction building materials/machinery were shipped by the ship loads to help the Haitians to rebuild their country. The Haitian people of Haiti received food and clothing by the tons. And yet they still need to come to Canada? Why? With all that aid that they received, Haiti should be a paradise today. But sadly, it is still a hell hole. And for those who donated whatever? Well, once again you got shafted. Some people never seem to learn. Born suckers. 

The real reason why I believe that they want to come to Canada is for all the free goodies that they know that they will get when they come here courtesy of the Canadian taxpayer's. Once again the taxpayer's of Canada are getting fleeced again. There will be more tax dollars blown on the earthquake that is now hitting Canada from all of those so-called refugees entering into Canada. Canadians? Will they ever learn and finally get it? Nope, I don't think that they will ever get anything. But hey. 

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I will address a couple of issues.

In regards to comments about disaster relief in Haiti its  too easy  once a disaster has struck to in hindsight point out what disaster relief has done wrong, i.e., how money has been spent on things other than direct relief to pedestrians. This article: http://aid.works/2016/11/how-much-aid-is-going-to-haiti-tons-and-thats-the-problem/ is a good article on explaining how difficult it is to accurately get an accounting of what happens once relief money starts coming in.

Certainly we've hear of reports of corruption with the Haitien government, private businesses rebuilding Haiti for profit,  and excessive administration costs in ngo's. However to say its all been wasted is properly inaccurate and it does not address the migration issue of Haitiens from the US to Canada because earthquake or no earthquake they would have left.

Trying to even begin to discuss the reasons for poverty in Haiti is complex. Here is just one article that provides a snapshot analysis of the origins of some of its issues: http://faculty.webster.edu/corbetre/haiti/misctopic/leftover/whypoor.htm

That said in regard to the hostility or prickly relationship with the Dominicans next door -those Dominicans were colonized by Spain, Haiti by France and  the two colonial sites  of French and Spanish were often at war with one another and that then carried on in the subsequent history of both nations.. Dominicans see  themselves as superior to Haitiens as they are heavily  Catholic which taught them to consider Haitiens and their animistic and voodoo  religious practices imferior. Also there were pirates attracted to both ends of the  Island of Hispaniola shared by both nations  also triggering wars between them. I've over-simplified it in an effort to summarize it for discussion purposes. Haiti and the Dominican Republic have actually had border wars over land and poor Haitiens trying to get into the Dominican Republiuc.

Here is the point, Haiti is being rebuilt, very slowly, but its being rebuilt. Haiti actually hosts more ngo's  per capita than any other country in the world.  Here's another article on the relief going on that discusses the good and the bad: http://www.beyondtheheadlines.org/is-aid-the-cure-or-the-disease/

All that said its unrealistic to think Haiti will ever be a paradise . Its always going to produce unskilled labourers seeking entry to North America. Many of the Haitiens now on the way to Canada were in the US as illegal migrants PRIOR to the earthquake. They have headed for Canada fearing Trump will deport them all. Say what you want about Trump, his bellicose speeches have triggered an exodus of illegal migrants to Canada. He's playing Trudeau exactly how Castro once played the US and dumped 250,000 Cubans into the US emptying his prisons and mental hospitals onto the streets of Miami.

Haitiens have always tried to head to Florida for a chance at work. Now they are coming to Canada because Trudeau holds a flame to the moths promising the, utopia. Trudeau knew his words would trigger an avalanche of fleeing migrants-either that or we have to believe Justin Trudeau is a bread dead shmuck and a half.  Wait he is.  Ok he's both. So anyways this  brain dead shmuck and a half , His living in a pampered world means he has no clue what it is like on the streets and in the Montreal  neighbourhoods where Haitiens will add to the  overcrowding  triggering  hostility by  non Haitien Quebecers INCLUDING other immigrants, refugees, who also hate them and are just as racist.  You think there is no racism between French speaking Muslim migrants  and Haitiens?  Try again and understand French Muslims coming to Quebec come from societies where they were also taught blacks/non Muslim Africans  are inferior-its not just white Quebecois with these beliefs.  

The idiot called Justin this weekend was in Niagra taking photo-ops and again spewing his let the masses eat cake speech extolling the virtues of being a welcoming mat for the world pandering at the end of the day to Tamils.

I hope to hell immigrants see through Trudeau's simpering pandering campaign and throw him out on his phony ass.

I've already stated the ngo's in Haiti should not be hiring Americans, Canadians and instead hiring Haitiens as much as possible to do the work. What's happening in Haiti is similar to Iraq. For profit construction companies come in, inflate their service costs since its government paying them, and bring their own employees while Haitiens sit around literally doing not a damn thing. That's wrong. At the grass roots level Haitiens need to be educated on how to dig, drill, build, lay brick, lay down latrines, build water plants and toilets. No one is doing that. That's not the fault of Haitiens. It is the fault of jack ass liberals who have never handled a shovel a day in their life thinking they can tell Haitiens how to rebuild. Haitiens should be directly involved in the rebuild and they are not. Instead of having them sit in tents collecting welfare,  train them in construction work and send them back to Haiti to rebuild it.

 

 

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2 hours ago, taxme said:

I think that our politically correct multicultural politicians need to seek medical attention asap. Just saying. :D

Multiculturalism-fanatism is like a mental disease or like some sort of a religious cult. There can be no experience which would sway you away from your original mindset. Even if there is the slightest doubt in your head that things are not going the right way the peer-pressure will put you back in the fold.

 

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On ‎2017‎-‎08‎-‎27 at 2:44 PM, taxme said:

I think that our politically correct multicultural politicians need to seek medical attention asap. Just saying. :D

Multicullturalism of course is not the actual issue, the amount of emphasis put on it and how its applied can or can not be.

Any society that doesn't breed outside its genetic pool or bring in fresh ideas and approaches, dies out.

Unfortunately before it dies out it, it  produces some people with pointed heads and thus th eneed for KKK hoods.

 

" So when I told Taxme  him he was a cone head, he panicked and denied being Jewish....so I said Taxme calm down

you can't put ice cream on a Jew....."

Barry "Snow" Cohen, 6345

 

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22 hours ago, -TSS- said:

Multiculturalism-fanatism is like a mental disease or like some sort of a religious cult. There can be no experience which would sway you away from your original mindset. Even if there is the slightest doubt in your head that things are not going the right way the peer-pressure will put you back in the fold.

 

Yes when multi-culturalism becomes to extreme its as bad as if there is no multi-culturalism at all. Too much or too little of anything that influences society can be a problem. Its all in how you balance it.  Of course its also very much a phenomena that is inevitable. You can't stop nature from diversifying to avoid becoming extinct.

Its like the movement of water. Too much you have flooding, too little you have a draught, either extreme its devastating to survival.

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23 hours ago, Rue said:

Yes when multi-culturalism becomes to extreme its as bad as if there is no multi-culturalism at all. Too much or too little of anything that influences society can be a problem. Its all in how you balance it.  Of course its also very much a phenomena that is inevitable. You can't stop nature from diversifying to avoid becoming extinct.

Its like the movement of water. Too much you have flooding, too little you have a draught, either extreme its devastating to survival.

You make about as much sense as a squirrel thinking about wanting to try and rape an elephant. 

"Too much you have flooding, too little you have a draught"? Did you figure that one out all by yourself?  Just asking. 

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23 hours ago, Rue said:

Multicullturalism of course is not the actual issue, the amount of emphasis put on it and how its applied can or can not be.

Any society that doesn't breed outside its genetic pool or bring in fresh ideas and approaches, dies out.

Unfortunately before it dies out it, it  produces some people with pointed heads and thus th eneed for KKK hoods.

 

" So when I told Taxme  him he was a cone head, he panicked and denied being Jewish....so I said Taxme calm down

you can't put ice cream on a Jew....."

Barry "Snow" Cohen, 6345

 

1. Multiculturalism is a disaster wherever it is implemented and applied. It's a program and agenda for genocide of a people and their race and culture. 

2.So, I guess what you are really trying to say here is that if Caucasian people do not breed with other races they will die? Where did you get that nonsense from? One of those leftist liberal rags that you appear to enjoy reading? There are still hundreds of millions of Caucasians still left living in the world today. I don't believe that, say, Caucasians that keep breeding with their own race of people, that this will eventually lead to their extinction. Even your own Jewish leaders tell your people not to mingle with other races of people. Keep your DNA free from mixing with gentiles. Would you say that could be a recipe for disaster for the Jewish people? Such nonsense indeed. But most times when I read many of your replies, they are just about all silly replies. But hey. 

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