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Though the incident happened in the USA, the purpose of this thread is to discuss the reality that multiculturalism is headed for a serious confrontation (to say the least), among people of various cultures and/or races.

In the 90's, a  black girl was killed by a South Korean.  Several businesses owned by Koreans were burned and looted.

"A black got killed, burn orientals!"  Tit for tat racism - strong and clear!

 

 

These are descriptions of South Koreans -

"They're insular. They employ their own. They keep to themselves." (video timer: 1:00)

And according to the black on the video, those - and because their store prices were high, and they have the "wrong attitude" - were the reasons why they were attacked.  In other words, it wasn't merely the killing of the black girl that was the problem.  There was this simmering resentment towards the Korean community.

Those descriptions can be applied to some other ethnic groups.  People of various cultures have their own ways - that's a fact.  

For society to be united as a people, everyone should be willing to assimilate.  Otherwise, it becomes like a "tribal" society.  We know the landscape of a tribal society.  Think Middle East, and Africa.  Is that how we'll be like in the future?

 

 

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On 8/31/2017 at 0:44 PM, betsy said:

Though the incident happened in the USA, the purpose of this thread is to discuss the reality that multiculturalism is headed for a serious confrontation (to say the least), among people of various cultures and/or races.

 

 

Only because people like you insist on making culture such an issue.

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1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Only because people like you insist on making culture such an issue.

Obviously you didn't watch the video.  As usual, you're doing the dance - the liberal Knee-jerk! :lol:

It is an issue!

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12 hours ago, eyeball said:

Except I'm not a liberal I'm a commie.

Nowadays......same thing.  Why do you think I said you're doing the USUAL liberal knee-jerk?   You know the saying, if it talks like a duck, smells like a duck, walks like a duck......

 Commie? Sure.  You're an over-blown liberal.  smiley.gif

That's a commie. giggle.gif

 

 

The only difference is that the liberal dreams of sending someone to the Gulag........the commie actually does it. hearty-laugh.gif

 

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6 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Yeah well Jesus was a commie too so I'm in pretty good company. 

:rolleyes:

For an ideology that's supposed to be Godless, why do commies and socialists wanna own Jesus? :lol:

You should talk to Marcus.  We just finished talking about that. 

 

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Yeah, I am trying to figure out what this thread is supposed to tell me about

" the reality that multiculturalism is headed for a serious confrontation (to say the least), among people of various cultures and/or races."

It's a single incident here.  So does it mean anything on the whole?  Who is not assimilating?  The Korean store owners?  The US doesn't even have a policy of official multiculturalism, it has an assimilation model.  So the only thing I can see you trying to say is that the Canadian model is better.  But there is no way you are saying that.

It's very confusing.  See if you can explain what this is supposed to be so some actual discussion can start.

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6 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Yeah, I am trying to figure out what this thread is supposed to tell me about

" the reality that multiculturalism is headed for a serious confrontation (to say the least), among people of various cultures and/or races."

It's a single incident here.  So does it mean anything on the whole?  Who is not assimilating?  The Korean store owners?  The US doesn't even have a policy of official multiculturalism, it has an assimilation model.  So the only thing I can see you trying to say is that the Canadian model is better.  But there is no way you are saying that.

It's very confusing.  See if you can explain what this is supposed to be so some actual discussion can start.

I don't know if the Koreans were assimilating or not - but that's the accusation coming from the Black! 

 

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Canadian Hindu Advocacy Group Spreading Hatred Towards Sikhs and Muslims

http://vancouver.mediacoop.ca/newsrelease/5748

 

 

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What Canadians think of Sikhs, Jews, Christians, Muslims . . .

MACLEAN’S EXCLUSIVE: A disturbing new poll

Canadians like to think of their country as a model for the world of how all sorts of people can get along together. But when it comes to the major faiths other than Christianity, a new poll conducted for Maclean’s finds that many Canadians harbour deeply troubling biases.

Multiculturalism? Although by now it might seem an ingrained national creed, fewer than one in three Canadians can find it in their hearts to view Islam or Sikhism in a favourable light.

Diversity? Canadians may embrace it in theory, but only a minority say they would find it acceptable if one of their kids came home engaged to a Muslim, Hindu or Sikh. Understanding?

http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/what-canadians-think-of-sikhs-jews-christians-muslims/

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5 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

So what is the point then?

Blacks and Asians don't get along?

You want to settle that how?

Read the OP again.  Why don't you tell me what you think......

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29 minutes ago, betsy said:

You should read the article; it talks about the way in which ignorance fuels the negative view (some) Canadians hold against Sikhs, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, etc.  Perhaps you could help by disseminating accurate information and encouraging understanding of different faiths and different ethnicities, rather than your current course of encouraging exclusion and hatred.

Whaddya think, could you do that?

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26 minutes ago, dialamah said:

You should read the article; it talks about the way in which ignorance fuels the negative view (some) Canadians hold against Sikhs, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, etc.  Perhaps you could help by disseminating accurate information and encouraging understanding of different faiths and different ethnicities, rather than your current course of encouraging exclusion and hatred.

Whaddya think, could you do that?

We cannot eliminate ignorance, and the other causes why people of various groups turn on each other.   The reason I gave that article is t show examples.  That's just the way it is - cultures will clash!  The more various cultures there are, the more likely.

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1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

I think that it's a single incident that doesn't convey much.

You're the one who isn't saying anything at all, MH.

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On 8/31/2017 at 0:44 PM, betsy said:

Though the incident happened in the USA, the purpose of this thread is to discuss the reality that multiculturalism is headed for a serious confrontation (to say the least), among people of various cultures and/or races.

In the 90's, a  black girl was killed by a South Korean.  Several businesses owned by Koreans were burned and looted.

"A black got killed, burn orientals!"  Tit for tat racism - strong and clear!

 

 

These are descriptions of South Koreans -

"They're insular. They employ their own. They keep to themselves." (video timer: 1:00)

And according to the black on the video, those - and because their store prices were high, and they have the "wrong attitude" - were the reasons why they were attacked.  In other words, it wasn't merely the killing of the black girl that was the problem.  There was this simmering resentment towards the Korean community.

Those descriptions can be applied to some other ethnic groups.  People of various cultures have their own ways - that's a fact.  

For society to be united as a people, everyone should be willing to assimilate.  Otherwise, it becomes like a "tribal" society.  We know the landscape of a tribal society.  Think Middle East, and Africa.  Is that how we'll be like in the future?

 

 

We all should know by now that the many different races and cultures immigrating to all the western countries of the world will eventually lead to race wars. Koreans hate Chinese. Japanese hate Chinese. Chinese hate blacks. Blacks hate whites. Arabs and Jews hate each other. Mexicans hate blacks and whites. East Indians hate Indians from India, Islamists hate everybody who is not Muslim and the list goes on and on. And I won't bother to bring up about how some one religions despises other religions. And hate is everywhere, and will be coming to your neighborhood near you very soon. When you try to mix cultures with cultures that conflict the chit will eventually hit the fan, and that chit will end up on us all. 

Multiculturalism is a recipe for disaster but yet our stupid politically correct politicians still believe that it is a great program and agenda to be forced on their own people. Just recently there was a black man arrested for killing several old white men because he said that he hated white people and wanted to kill them all. Source: Rightedition website.

In Canada today assimilation is an option, not mandatory. Look at all the different enclaves that we have today in Canada where one ethnic group are living in one area while another ethnic group live in a another different area and thriving as if they were still living back from whence they came. Canada is fast becoming a tribal society, and there are some here who are cheering it on. It is not a bright idea to be doing and hoping for. But for those of us who care, we will have to reap what they are sowing one day. And I don't think that they are going to like what they all rooted for to happen. Well, some will, that I am sure. Just saying. Works for me.    

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13 hours ago, betsy said:

Nowadays......same thing.  Why do you think I said you're doing the USUAL liberal knee-jerk?   You know the saying, if it talks like a duck, smells like a duck, walks like a duck......

 Commie? Sure.  You're an over-blown liberal.  smiley.gif

That's a commie. giggle.gif

 

 

The only difference is that the liberal dreams of sending someone to the Gulag........the commie actually does it. hearty-laugh.gif

 

So says the one who lectures others on the dangers of tribalism.

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On 9/3/2017 at 8:40 AM, betsy said:

Nowadays......same thing.  Why do you think I said you're doing the USUAL liberal knee-jerk?   You know the saying, if it talks like a duck, smells like a duck, walks like a duck......

 Commie? Sure.  You're an over-blown liberal.  smiley.gif

That's a commie. giggle.gif

 

 

The only difference is that the liberal dreams of sending someone to the Gulag........the commie actually does it. hearty-laugh.gif

 

The fascists/fascist USA actually do it too, Betsy, but you know this and still you make this huge pretense that it is just one side. The US has Guantanamo, the US has black site torture chambers around the world, the US has a terrorist training camp, has had since 1945 right smack dab in the US. The US has terrorist training camps all over the world. 

The US/UK established terrorist groups in all the western European countries to create false flag terrorist bombings, attacks etc so that it could all be blamed on Russia, all to scare the little sheeple into being very afraid. They are doing the same thing right now and you are buying into the lies big time. 

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1 hour ago, hot enough said:

The fascists/fascist USA actually do it too, Betsy, but you know this and still you make this huge pretense that it is just one side. The US has Guantanamo, the US has black site torture chambers around the world, the US has a terrorist training camp, has had since 1945 right smack dab in the US. The US has terrorist training camps all over the world. 

The US/UK established terrorist groups in all the western European countries to create false flag terrorist bombings, attacks etc so that it could all be blamed on Russia, all to scare the little sheeple into being very afraid. They are doing the same thing right now and you are buying into the lies big time. 

Tunisian men detail CIA black site torture involving electric chair and ...

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  1.  
Oct 3, 2016 - Tunisian men detail CIA black site torture involving electric chair and ... Both men were subsequently transferred into US military custody at the ...

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:rolleyes:

 

I read Mitch Rapp series by the late Vince Flynn. 

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9 minutes ago, hot enough said:

What has that got to do with you always ignoring evidence?

Mtch Rapp's character is a CIA agent - the kind of CIA that's "unofficial" because he does the dirty works of torturing terrorists for vital information, and executing them.

 

I've read of news reports how children and innocent civilians were tortured, maimed and killed by terrorists. 

So you gave a bunch of articles about the CIA applying tortures to terrorists, who think nothing of torturing and killing thousands of civilians.   Mitch Rapp?   My way of saying...."so what!"

 

You want me to feel sympathy?  Well, I feel sympathy for the civilians who are going through hell!

 

 

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18 minutes ago, betsy said:

You want me to feel sympathy?  Well, I feel sympathy for the civilians who are going through hell!

Would that be the Iraqi citizens, the Afghan citizens, the Vietnamese citizens, the Cambodian citizens, the Laotian citizens, the Indonesian citizens, the Nicaraguan citizens, the Syrian citizens, the Libyan citizens, the Somalian citizens, the Italian citizens, the German citizens, the Yugoslavian citizens, the ... ?

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21 minutes ago, betsy said:

I've read of news reports how children and innocent civilians were tortured, maimed and killed by terrorists. 

Have you read of how children and innocent civilians were tortured, maimed and killed by Reagan terrorists? How about Bush's terrorists, Obama's terrorists, Kennedy's terrorists, Nixon's terrorists, Johnson's terrorists, Ford's terrorists, ... ? 

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