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On 1/12/2020 at 9:12 AM, CITIZEN_2015 said:

Iran's sole female Olympic medalist defected citing the corrupt lying exploiting Iran regime. She said she is among millions of other women being repressed and exploited.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/12/middleeast/iran-kimia-alizadeh-defects/index.html

And that is what Kimia says echoing the feeling of a big majority of Iranians.

In a message on Instagram, she wrote, “How do I start? With a hello, a goodbye or to offer my condolences? Hello to the oppressed people of Iran, goodbye to the noble people of Iran, and my condolences to the perpetually mourning people of Iran.” She recounted being “a pawn” of a regime that told her how to dress, dictated what she said, and paraded her and her medals around for political gain. “To the kind and oppressed people of Iran: I did not want to climb to a pedestal whose steps are paved with lies and deceit,” she wrote. “I am willing to bear the difficulty of living in exile because I could no longer stay at a table where dishonesty, con-artistry and injustice were being served. Making this decision was more difficult than earning the Olympic medal.” In the accompanying black-and-white picture, she wears her sports uniform; her face was buried in her hands.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-anger-and-anguish-fuelling-irans-protests

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Prince Reza Pahlavi speaks on future of Iran

 

Many people in Iran are blessing the soul of his grandfather and father and Pahlavi dynasty asking for his return. The nation calling his name while surrounded by the heavily armed thugs hired by the most repressive regime in the world, the islamic republic regime They have heard of or  remember the Golden years, the rapid economic growth and the total social freedom their parents enjoyed. He is likely the next elected leader of Iran.

 

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https://womenintheworld.com/2019/03/11/iranian-lawyer-who-defended-womens-right-to-remove-hijab-gets-38-years-148-lashes/?fbclid=IwAR0eKA2TU4Hhscsfk0w1VB-uHMdbfEOFvTlklyaxWVNsTgToFOlmDkGBAaY


 

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After two trials described by Amnesty International as “grossly unfair,” Iranian human rights lawyer Nasrin Sotoudeh has been sentenced to a total of 38 years in prison and 148 lashes.

The same day Sotoudeh was sentenced, the UN investigator on human rights in Iran held up her case as a sign of the country’s increasingly brutal oppression of those who defend the rights of women. “Worrying patterns of intimidation, arrest, prosecution, and ill-treatment of human rights defenders, lawyers, and labor rights activists signal an increasingly severe state response,” he said.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Unfortunately, this is the same predicament many Iranian women of her stature have faced under this brutal regime. Iranian women are fighting the apparatus of this regime on a daily basis by not covering their hair and wearing hijab. It is an ongoing battle and the women in Iran and their movements is one of the forces that the regime is very afraid of... 

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Just now, kactus said:

Unfortunately, this is the same predicament many Iranian women of her stature have faced under this brutal regime. Iranian women are fighting the apparatus of this regime on a daily basis by not covering their hair and wearing hijab. It is an ongoing battle and the women in Iran and their movements is one of the forces that the regime is very afraid of... 

These subhuman murderous mullahs and their thugs are only creating more hate for themselves, for the regime and for the faith they supposedly represent with these brutal actions, killings and repressions. Time is against them. Iranian society is now highly advanced. The 6th century imposed arab culture imposed by invasion and occupation of Persia is no longer accepted and totally rejected by increasing number of Iranians who are now becoming a great majority in Iran. These mullahs may remain in power for a while longer by fear, intimidation and mass killing and brutal repression. But their repressive rule will end for sure.

The question is when and at what price. How many more innocent women, children and men have to be sacrificed for these aging subhuman murderous mullahs to survive a while longer. Support from the West would make the inevitable sooner and with less bloodshed. On the other hand appeasing the regime as was practiced by Obama administration and currently being practiced by Europeans would mean they can hang on to power longer and much more innocent people will die the blood for whom will be n the hands of the leaders who try to sign a pack with the devil.

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1 hour ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

These subhuman murderous mullahs and their thugs are only creating more hate for themselves, for the regime and for the faith they supposedly represent with these brutal actions, killings and repressions. Time is against them.

This is precisely why there is little if any reason for the west to get involved or interfere in the process of people overthrowing their oppressors.  The oppressors can't help but do themselves in on their own.

This process was well underway back in 1953 in Iran and other countries in the ME region and we fucked it all up by interfering in it. I think there is also a very good reason to believe that in doing so we also set back the same sort of reformation of Islam that Christianity was subjected to with the evolution of better human rights, greater freedom and more democracy.

Getting back on track now may well be impossible given the eight-balls we still have a penchant for positioning ourselves behind like climate change.  

 

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On 1/17/2020 at 7:18 PM, eyeball said:

This is precisely why there is little if any reason for the west to get involved or interfere in the process of people overthrowing their oppressors.  The oppressors can't help but do themselves in on their own.

This process was well underway back in 1953 in Iran and other countries in the ME region and we fucked it all up by interfering in it. I think there is also a very good reason to believe that in doing so we also set back the same sort of reformation of Islam that Christianity was subjected to with the evolution of better human rights, greater freedom and more democracy.

Getting back on track now may well be impossible given the eight-balls we still have a penchant for positioning ourselves behind like climate change.  

 

I see that model as Europe during the middle ages when the church had lots of power that interfered with the day to day lives of people. This came to the head when King Henry VIII wanted to re-marry and the church did not allow him. Of course he  married again and told the church to [email protected]& off. He instigated the separation of church from the state. The rest is history following the industrial revolution and modernisation in Europe. Bottom line there’s no place for religion in politics or in Henry’s case personal life...

England got this right but somehow their interference in other countries’  politics always seems to be a stumbling block. It evolve around exploiting the various religious factions and create endless wars.....

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27 minutes ago, kactus said:

England got this right but somehow their interference in other countries’  politics always seems to be a stumbling block. It evolve around exploiting the various religious factions and create endless wars.....

This is what happens in a world where might makes right as opposed to rules make right.  Enlightened democratic Shining Beacons that ignore or forget that truly are the worst offenders because they know better than to behave or support dictatorship themselves - ignorance is the least of their excuses.

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7 hours ago, eyeball said:

This is precisely why there is little if any reason for the west to get involved or interfere in the process of people overthrowing their oppressors.  The oppressors can't help but do themselves in on their own.

This process was well underway back in 1953 in Iran and other countries in the ME region and we fucked it all up by interfering in it. I think there is also a very good reason to believe that in doing so we also set back the same sort of reformation of Islam that Christianity was subjected to with the evolution of better human rights, greater freedom and more democracy.

 

How many MORE innocent women, children and men do you think is accepted to be killed before this happens? Plus the fact that Iran itself is in danger of disintegration as the restless minorities under repression for many years (most severe past 25 years) may decide to just put the 25 century shared history behind and leave the Federation. 

You have seen my many posts related to 1953 coup in Iran. Yes as I have said it many times this coup led to the 1979 disaster when Iran became "planet of the apes", however, keeping all facts in perspective, I am not sure in 1953 Iran society was ready for democracy as it is in 2020. It is possible that if the coup had not taken place with a democratically elected government of Mossadegh that these apes may have taken control even sooner or the traitor Soviet puppet Tudeh party may have staged a coup and Iran would have become a part or a Satellite of Soviet empire as they tried to do in 1946 with Iranian province of Azarbayjan and the pro-Soviet coup in Afghanistan and 1980 invasion of Afghanistan.

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President Trump's message to the nation of Iran:

“The noble people of Iran—who love America—deserve a government that's more interested in helping them achieve their dreams than killing them for demanding respect,” he said. “Instead of leading Iran toward ruin, its leaders should abandon terror and Make Iran Great Again!”

“The so-called ‘Supreme Leader' of Iran, who has not been so Supreme lately, had some nasty things to say about the United States and Europe,” Trump wrote on Twitter. “Their economy is crashing, and their people are suffering. He should be very careful with his words!”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/01/17/trump-warns-irans-supreme-leader-very-careful-his-words/4505266002/

 

 

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6 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

President Trump's message to the nation of Iran:

“The noble people of Iran—who love America—deserve a government that's more interested in helping them achieve their dreams than killing them for demanding respect,” he said. “Instead of leading Iran toward ruin, its leaders should abandon terror and Make Iran Great Again!”

“The so-called ‘Supreme Leader' of Iran, who has not been so Supreme lately, had some nasty things to say about the United States and Europe,” Trump wrote on Twitter. “Their economy is crashing, and their people are suffering. He should be very careful with his words!”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/01/17/trump-warns-irans-supreme-leader-very-careful-his-words/4505266002/

 

 

This is a good move by Trump to play up the supreme leader against Iranians. I have seen footage where people openly refuse to trample the American flags and this is a good start for a dialogue. 
 

This gesture of goodwill by Trump towards Iranian people and moral support is a good sign but it may soon fizz out after the election....

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Just now, kactus said:

This is a good move by Trump to play up the supreme leader against Iranians. I have seen footage where people openly refuse to trample the American flags and this is a good start for a dialogue. 
 

This gesture of goodwill by Trump towards Iranian people and moral support is a good sign but it may soon fizz out after the election....

What concerns me is that while he appears to support Iranian people at the same time he is showing willingness to negotiate with the regime who is killing them!!. So I begin to wonder if his support for the repressed nation will evaporate if and when the mullahs have no choice but to surrender and the ayatollah has to drink another jar of poison? I hope that I am wrong and his words are not some political opportunism pushing the defenseless people against the heavily armed thugs for his political agenda and then back stab them when the mullahs submit.

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5 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said:

What concerns me is that while he appears to support Iranian people at the same time he is showing willingness to negotiate with the regime who is killing them!!. So I begin to wonder if his support for the repressed nation will evaporate if and when the mullahs have no choice but to surrender and the ayatollah has to drink another jar of poison? I hope that I am wrong and his words are not some political opportunism pushing the defenseless people against the heavily armed thugs for his political agenda and then back stab them when the mullahs submit.

Well he did that with the Kurd who thought against ISIS and were on the same side as US. The Kurds were at the mercy of Turkish army. 
 

I wouldn’t read too much into his tweets. If they last past the election then perhaps there is something in that message for Iranian people...

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Just now, kactus said:

Well he did that with the Kurd who thought against ISIS and were on the same side as US. The Kurds were at the mercy of Turkish army. 
 

I wouldn’t read too much into his tweets. If they last past the election then perhaps there is something in that message for Iranian people...

Yes you are correct about the Kurds. But Iran has a lot more significance for the whole world than the Kurds.

Not sure about the second part though. In my view Trump's tweet warning the mullah not to kill as they did last November (1500 defenseless people shot dead), reminding them that the world is watching worked as after several days of fierce anti-regime demonstrations when the supreme leader himself was the target and fiercely insulted not even one person was killed so it worked quite well if that was the reason which in my view was at least part of the reason.

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Details of massacre in just one of over 100 cities where the nation protested against the imposed islamic regime are coming

https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Iran-News/US-sanctions-Iranian-commander-for-shooting-protesters-614569

The U.S. State Department has said previously it had received videos of the Revolutionary Guards opening fire without warning on protesters in Mahshahr county in southwest Iran.
On Saturday, it cited "multiple" media reports and information submitted by the Iranians through its Rewards for Justice tipline that units under Brigadier General Hassan Shahvarpour’s command killed as many as 148 people when they used armored vehicles to encircle fleeing protesters, firing machine guns into the crowd and setting fire to the marsh in which protesters took cover.
The State Department said it was designating Shahvarpour, a commander in Khuzestan province where Mahshahr is located, under a U.S. law banning officials of foreign governments and their immediate family members for whom there was "credible information on their involvement in gross violations of human rights."

 

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Influencial Iranians break rank with the regime.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/influential-iranians-break-ranks-state-after-ukrainian-jet-downing-n1117721

Some parts of the article:

The protests over the airliner, however, are “a watershed moment,” said Hadi Ghaemi, executive director of the New York-based Center for Human Rights in Iran, who said the downing of the Ukrainian airliner had “become a national symbol of what Iranians suffer daily from government forces and the bureaucracy.”

“People are completely fed up with the political system and the repression and especially in this case, the lies, cover-up and incompetence of their government,” said Ghaemi, whose nonprofit seeks to document rights abuses in Iran.

The artistic boycott of the Fajr festivals and the actor Alidoosti’s comments Sunday were examples of an “unprecedented” level of consensus among members of the artistic community in Iran who are disillusioned and frustrated with the Iranian state, said Shahi, the professor.

 

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Falsely accused British Australian female was offered to be released in exchange for becoming an spy for Iran's islamic revolutionary thugs.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jan/21/jailed-british-australian-kylie-moore-gilbert-rejected-irans-offer-to-work-as-a-spy

 

In her painful to read letter she says

She has repeatedly written to authorities requesting better access to medication, and for money to buy food she can safely eat – she is allergic to much of the prison’s food – and personal items. She says she needs about A$70 (US$50) a month to survive.

“I am entirely alone in Iran. I have no friends or family here and in addition to all the pain I have endured here, I feel like I am abandoned and forgotten, that after so many times of asking my embassy, I still have no money at all to endure all of this.”

 

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