August1991 82 Report post Posted March 24, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: The real thing is even more interesting, as in the courtship and purposeful manipulation of Elizabeth for marriage beginning at only 13 years of age. Greece's Prince Philip maneuvered into position with help from his uncle Louis Mountbatten, and a battle ensued to keep the House of Tudor name. "Mountbatten" was in fact an anglicised "Battenberg". And Windsor is a complete invention: her grandfather's name was in fact "Saxo-Cobourg" - utterly changed, like Ontario's Kitchener. BTW, I once visited the small place in Cobourg, Germany where Victoria went on holiday. The guide told me that Margaret and Andrew had visited - Elizabeth, not. It reminded me of Yalta. Versailles splendour? Not at all. The vacation, private life of European royalty in the late 19th century is comparable to wealthy Ontario cottage - barely Newport, RI. In Newport, rich Americans understood that a summer place was to invite. Not impress. Years before, Frederick the Great sort-of did that at Sans Souci. ==== "Tudor"? "Henry VII"? He was a gangster. Like Joseph P. Kennedy, he created a dynasty. The name "Tudor" is a fraud, like Bernie Madoff. But so-called Henry VII created the name Tudor, Joseph P created the name Kennedy and Bernie created the name NASDAQ. The future will decide whose ego will live longest. Edited March 24, 2018 by August1991 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bush_cheney2004 2,450 Report post Posted March 24, 2018 The whole Prince Philip fiasco was repeated with Princess Diana. Damn royals are a very exclusive club ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JamesHackerMP 74 Report post Posted March 25, 2018 I like how The Windsors portrays the minor royals, like Beatrice & Eugene, the daughers of Andrew & Fergie. Wow, I hope they aren't like that in real life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
August1991 82 Report post Posted May 24, 2018 On 3/24/2018 at 11:54 PM, JamesHackerMP said: I like how The Windsors portrays the minor royals, like Beatrice & Eugene, the daughers of Andrew & Fergie. Wow, I hope they aren't like that in real life. God knows how this TV series will deal with this new addition (Red haired prince & Markle) to the British royal family. ===== To those monarchist defenders of "tradition", I ask: do you realize how "British Royalty" has become "Kardashian"? I prefer sustainable States. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
August1991 82 Report post Posted November 1, 2018 (edited) The French monarchy, several centuries. The British monarchy, several centuries. Chinese Empires? ======= America? Several centuries. I love America. Doable, sustainable. Bump. Edited November 1, 2018 by August1991 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JamesHackerMP 74 Report post Posted November 3, 2018 On 11/1/2018 at 1:25 AM, August1991 said: The French monarchy, several centuries. The British monarchy, several centuries. Chinese Empires? ======= America? Several centuries. I love America. Doable, sustainable. Bump. Should I stand up on my desk and start singing "God Bless America"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wilber 270 Report post Posted November 5, 2018 On 3/23/2018 at 10:51 PM, August1991 said: ==== "Tudor"? "Henry VII"? He was a gangster. Like Joseph P. Kennedy, he created a dynasty. The name "Tudor" is a fraud, like Bernie Madoff. But so-called Henry VII created the name Tudor, Joseph P created the name Kennedy and Bernie created the name NASDAQ. The future will decide whose ego will live longest. Tudor was the Anglicization of the Welsh family Tudur. Henry was born in Wales, son of Edmund Tudor, Earl of Richmond. Owen Tudor, son of Maredudd ap Tudur was Henry VII's grandfather. Monarchies back then had quite a bit in common with mafia families. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
August1991 82 Report post Posted November 6, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, Wilber said: Tudor was the Anglicization of the Welsh family Tudur. Henry was born in Wales, son of Edmund Tudor, Earl of Richmond. Owen Tudor, son of Maredudd ap Tudur was Henry VII's grandfather. Monarchies back then had quite a bit in common with mafia families. Tudur? Tudor? Never heard such a translation. ==== Make no mistake, "Henry VII" was an Italian Godfather. Whatta guy! ==== America, decent, honest, good = still here. Edited November 6, 2018 by August1991 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
August1991 82 Report post Posted November 6, 2018 The Chinese, French, English - even Vietnamese, Bulgarian - have various claims to sustainability. Some people even claim that they have the exact word of God (supposedly God only speaks Arabic) - if true, certainably sustainable. ==== I object. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JamesHackerMP 74 Report post Posted January 14 Markle is portrayed in a special wedding episode. I love how she keeps mentioning her role on "Suits" which she always pronounces weird. I also hear she is having a hard time fitting in in the royal family. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JamesHackerMP 74 Report post Posted January 23 On 11/5/2018 at 1:36 PM, Wilber said: Tudor was the Anglicization of the Welsh family Tudur. Henry was born in Wales, son of Edmund Tudor, Earl of Richmond. Owen Tudor, son of Maredudd ap Tudur was Henry VII's grandfather. Monarchies back then had quite a bit in common with mafia families. You should watch The Borgias! They're the original crime family. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
